Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
But they'll have guns, too. And they might shoot you dead while you don't have access to your gun. For example....when you're at school, or something.
If they didn't have a gun, however...
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What is it with the Guns?
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But they'll have guns, too. And they might shoot you dead while you don't have access to your gun. For example....when you're at school, or something.
If they didn't have a gun, however...
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
No i mean the reasons behind the Second Amendments are outdated. This isn't the 1790's anymore. Well, I guess it is if you live in America.
And my being unarmed is an improvement on the situation?
Nah!
But not all bad guys attack with guns.
Some punch, some stab, & some whack.
You mean to say that because having a gun won't prevent all assaults,
that I should go without? That's like saying don't wear a seat belt because
you might die anyway.
Bad guys will obey gun bans?
I don't think so.
They're already bent on crime.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Sure. But not from anyone with a gun. People don't have easy access guns in this country and, as a result, there are very, very few shootings. Certainly nothing on the scale of madness of America. British people do not worry about being shot at school, or at work, or in the street. We don't need to, because guns are illegal and very few people have access to them.
Hunting for food when necessary is fine. It's never necessary in America. You have wal-mart and stuff. I've seen it.
No I mean you don't have any. It's an illusion. And if you think you do, find a Japanese American who was alive during the 1940's, he'll tell you all about your precious rights.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
There is not a surfeit of bad guys running around with guns in the UK. This is because they are extremely hard to obtain, and extremely expensive for those who can obtain them.
They have a long tradition of being disarmed.
We don't. Bad guys will continue to have many.
And lacking guns, they have edged thingies.
I'm pretty sure that by law, you don't even have a penis, just a strange sort of indentation..Ok, let's get serious here. Who want's one of those "sissy" pistols when you can have this: .50 cal Desert Eagle
I don't understand the fascination with guns either. And I grew up with one. We lived on a farm and we used guns to humanely euthanize animals too large to put down quickly and painlessly otherwise. But my parents would have never used it for home protection. It stayed locked away and disassembled so an accident couldn't happen, the time it would take to get it ready I'd rather spend trying to get away.
This isn't always an option.
But I can retrieve mine from the safe in seconds.
Are you saying yours is bigger?
Without pix, yer just brag'n!
Only that it's bigger by virtue of existing.
Now that sucker is downright U G L Y. You're welcome to it.
But if you want to see a picture of one sweet-looking gun take a look at this beauty ⤵
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As someone who likes guns, that picture made me die a little inside. What kind of monster would let a gun go that bad?
They need to be much better regulated. Unfortunately, that's probably not going to happen.
esmith
Veteran Member
And when would that be? Yes, in certain areas, like government buildings, firearms are not allowed. Now if a business owner puts up a sign that basically says "no guns allowed" they will have to frisk everyone entering the store (isn't going to happen) in addition I will not shop at these places. So, yeah I guess there could be a situation when I don't have a firearm on my person but the times are few and far between.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Politesse
Amor Vincit Omnia
The United States was originally founded as a series of economic colonies, set right on top of a number of indigenous nations and competing colonies that had varying diplomatic responses, from foreign aid to war. This set in motion a series of genocidal acts that Britain was politically interested in supporting but economically and tactically unable to continue on the strength of their professional armies. So they started shipping over loyalists, who they already owed land to over the previous genocidal campaign in Ulster, armed them heavily, and told them the land was theirs if they could hold on to it against indigenous reprisals. It worked in the sense that the colonies were established, became prosperous, and indigenous autonomy was permanently crippled. It backfired in that the grandkids of those colonists started taking the "your land" part seriously and rebelled against their would-be monarch, also.
Realizing its mistake, Britain belatedly tried to disarm its overseas colonies. This only pissed off the colonists, who allied with their age old enemies the French, used the French Navy to expel the British, and enshrined the right to bear arms in the Constitution lest anyone try to take them away again. The connection between "freedom" and firearms will probably never be uncoupled, in part because it really is necessary - an empire diguised as a country, founded by the gun, must always survive by the gun. Do you imagine our police and military could, of their own accord, rule over a varied population of 300 million people, almost all of them immigrants from elsewhere and many of them former slaves of the others? Our constant and abiding fear of each other, shared emnity for the government, and even greater fear of outsiders, is a large part of what leads to the comparative stability of our sham state. Guns are the security blanket that help us cope with the resulting paranoia.
Realizing its mistake, Britain belatedly tried to disarm its overseas colonies. This only pissed off the colonists, who allied with their age old enemies the French, used the French Navy to expel the British, and enshrined the right to bear arms in the Constitution lest anyone try to take them away again. The connection between "freedom" and firearms will probably never be uncoupled, in part because it really is necessary - an empire diguised as a country, founded by the gun, must always survive by the gun. Do you imagine our police and military could, of their own accord, rule over a varied population of 300 million people, almost all of them immigrants from elsewhere and many of them former slaves of the others? Our constant and abiding fear of each other, shared emnity for the government, and even greater fear of outsiders, is a large part of what leads to the comparative stability of our sham state. Guns are the security blanket that help us cope with the resulting paranoia.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
And you think that criminals would comply with a ban? It's not like guns would instantaneously dematerialize if a ban were enacted.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
America would be a more civilised place if it was still ruled by English gentlemen and the Queen.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
You carry your gun with you to the supermarket? To pick the kids up from school? To work? To the gym? Do you take it with you when you go for drinks with friends? Thanksgiving with the parents etc?
What about that chick and her cameraman who got shot while they were filming. The gun laws really worked out for them.