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What is missing from the bible?

Ronald

Well-Known Member
If I were God, I would have given a visible sign, when someone thumbed his nose at me three times there would be a very, very small puff of smoke and that one would be no more.

The world would either be a sparsely settled world or a world with a lot of God Fearers! That is my ungodly side. LOL

But God is doing quite well without my help. He loved us while we were yet sinners. Much better than me!

Shalom
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
If I were God, I would have given a visible sign, when someone thumbed his nose at me three times there would be a very, very small puff of smoke and that one would be no more.
There is some great comfort then in you NOT being God. God has already been painted as a megalomaniac by his followers. We surely don't need a real one at the helm.
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
There is some great comfort then in you NOT being God. God has already been painted as a megalomaniac by his followers. We surely don't need a real one at the helm.
Why did you paint him a megalomaniac?
Seems you are a selective reader.
But I've come to expect that from Christians. Todah rabah
 

idea

Question Everything
Infant baptism – necessary or not? what about mentally ill?
Baptism by immersion or sprinkling?
Prophets - do they still exist? Will revelation ever cease?
The nature of God – person? Trinity?
Works vs grace? Relationship between justice, grace, mercy…
More about the creation process.
The words of the sacrament prayer
Baptism of fire – Laying on of hands to receive the Holy Ghost?
Blessings – who can give them? How?
Priesthood authority – who has it? what is it needed for?
Explanation of Baptisms for the Dead
Where did we come from?
Clear description of Heaven / hell / who goes where/ what happens there? Harps? Halos?
Marriage / celibacy – which is better?
Do we have free agency? Explain predestination?
Perfect creator / imperfect creation…??? 93:29-31
Where did Satan come from? Why did he fall?
How do you know what is true?
The date of the second coming (JK - No, we don’t know that one)

With all of the ambiguous doctrines and differences between the Christian faiths, obviously there are a lot of things not included in the Bible.

How about another testament of Jesus Christ, a history of another people on another continent under the same God – God’s dealings with someone other than the Jewish people? (I love Jewish people, but by two or three witnesses shall every word be established J God rules the entire world, not just one people.) something with specific guidance for those living now, in the Latter Days???

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Actually what I would really like to know is what it is like on other worlds. Our world was the only one capable of killing Jesus… other worlds prob have more utopian living conditions… and how was it decided who would go to which worlds? Why do we not get to know about them, while they get to know about us? (they must know about Jesus). Do they avoid us because of how violent we are? Sorry, that was prob really out there…
 
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Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Perhaps it would be more fitting to precede each of your posts? :D
LOL!

However, I just don't find Scripture lacking in any way. Everything you need to know about yourself and God is right there, if you let the Spirit guide you into it's truth and meaning.
How do you know that everything you need to know is there? Suppose we only had the gospel according to Matthew, and weren't even aware of the other three gospel accounts? You'd probably say, "Everything you need to know about God is right there." I'm sure we could all learn quite a bit about Jesus' ministry from Matthew, and we wouldn't even know what we were missing. But isn't it nice to have three other accounts? We have several of Paul's epistles and they teach us a lot of important things. But some of these epistles mention others and suggest that they are also worth reading. Too bad they're missing. Personally, I love the Bible, particularly the gospels. I suspect I would be able to get a pretty fair understanding of Jesus Christ's teachings if that's all I had to go on. On the other hand, I want to have all the information about God, what my relationship with Him can be and what He expects of me that I possibly can.

Most who mock it have their own agenda of paranoia, arrogance and theophobia.
True.
 

idea

Question Everything
Understanding.

I think willamena has the right answer. There are too many holes, leads to too much contention.

Yes, Mormons love the Bible and use it...
As a convert I can say I love the bible a whole lot more now (with some holes filled in) than I used to.
 
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Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Suppose we only had the gospel according to Matthew, and weren't even aware of the other three gospel accounts? You'd probably say, "Everything you need to know about God is right there."
Guilty! But then I truly believe in the Spirit of God and that he alone guides us into all the truth. Without the Spirit to give you UNDERSTANDING, we could have ten times the words in the scriptures and still not get to the ONE salient truth: God is Love. The fruit of believing in God is Love. The one law of God is to Love everyone (including God). The rest is just seeing how others went about trying to love the best that they could. Not all were successful, but the Spirit clues you in on that.
 

gmanbc

Member
I would like to see some kind of evedince and then I would like to see something about the divinity of the New Testament. Seems to me that the Catholic Church just grabbed a bunch of old letters, bound them in a book and called it God' word. The bible doesn't even recognize that they did this. If they did this again today and called it, the Newest Testament would anyone buy off on it?
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
I don't think there is anything missing from the Bible, it is what it is. It's like asking if there is anything missing from Moby Dick, there are a lot of things that aren't in Moby Dick but the book is still complete.

Rather than adding anything, it might be a good idea to scrape out a lot of the waffle, make it an easier read - I really couldn't care less who begat whom. ;)
 

gmanbc

Member
I don't think there is anything missing from the Bible, it is what it is. It's like asking if there is anything missing from Moby Dick, there are a lot of things that aren't in Moby Dick but the book is still complete.

Rather than adding anything, it might be a good idea to scrape out a lot of the waffle, make it an easier read - I really couldn't care less who begat whom. ;)

Interesting that you compare the bible to a science fiction book. A couple of key differences are: One author versus many unknown authors and the fact that are many prophesies found that weren't put in the book. According to 2 Timothy 3:16 the book should be a lot bigger.
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
Interesting that you compare the bible to a science fiction book. A couple of key differences are: One author versus many unknown authors and the fact that are many prophesies found that weren't put in the book. According to 2 Timothy 3:16 the book should be a lot bigger.
I think you miss my point, or rather I didn't explain it properly.

The Bible is "The Bible", 66 books in the Protestant Canon (a few extra in the various Catholic/Orthodox versions) collected by men to reflect their theology. It has been this way for hundreds of years, it is "The Bible" TM. If you add three or four extra books then it is no longer "The Bible" it is something else, just as if you added two extra chapters onto the end of Moby Dick, it becomes something other than Moby Dick, and if you add six extra poems to the "Collected Works of Wordsworth" it becomes something other than "The Collected Works of Wordsworth".
 

gmanbc

Member
I think you miss my point, or rather I didn't explain it properly.

The Bible is "The Bible", 66 books in the Protestant Canon (a few extra in the various Catholic/Orthodox versions) collected by men to reflect their theology. It has been this way for hundreds of years, it is "The Bible" TM. If you add three or four extra books then it is no longer "The Bible" it is something else, just as if you added two extra chapters onto the end of Moby Dick, it becomes something other than Moby Dick, and if you add six extra poems to the "Collected Works of Wordsworth" it becomes something other than "The Collected Works of Wordsworth".

This thread asks the question, "What is missing from the bible? If this question was asked of Moby Dick or just about any other book, there probably wouldn't be any response as the question wouldn't make much since. Nobody is living their lives using Moby Dick as their inspiration. The Bible on the other hand is supposed to be inspired by God. Every day people go to the bible for direction, guidance and purpose. Reading the book is as close to talking to God as you can get. With all that said... The book is missing a lot.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
The book is missing a lot.
No, it's not. You, however, are missing the point of the book. The better question would be: why are you so clueless when it comes to Scripture that you can't seem to understand it?
 

gmanbc

Member
No, it's not. You, however, are missing the point of the book. The better question would be: why are you so clueless when it comes to Scripture that you can't seem to understand it?

Clueless? Please don't continue to attack my post and call me names. I don't meant to come accross rude. I am trying to generate some discussion and hopefully anyone that wants to talk can do this without being attacked. I don't mean to sound harsh but it seems to me that you don't really know the bible? That isn't a bad thing as I know many people that are religious that tell me that they don't need a book to tell them aobut God. I can respect that.
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
This thread asks the question, "What is missing from the bible? If this question was asked of Moby Dick or just about any other book, there probably wouldn't be any response as the question wouldn't make much since. Nobody is living their lives using Moby Dick as their inspiration. The Bible on the other hand is supposed to be inspired by God. Every day people go to the bible for direction, guidance and purpose. Reading the book is as close to talking to God as you can get. With all that said... The book is missing a lot.
I disagree, people can look to other sources for inspiration in their spiritual lives, and most do, the Catholic/Orthodox have Holy tradition to draw from for example.

Like I said, the Bible is what it is, it is the result of a very rigorous selection carried out over centuries which formed it into the reflection of a developing faith. If there is something not in the Bible, then it was left out for a reason. Just because that reasoning has changed or is no longer valid doesn't mean it is acceptable to just re-write the Bible, because it is a developed, historic entity in its own right.

If there is something that people would like to be in the Bible, but isn't, then tough, they'll just have to look elsewhere for it, broaden their horizons.
If you start adding to the Bible then it is no longer "The Bible", it is "The Bible+" and since pretty much everybody would add different things we would have about a billion different versions of "The Bible+" in essence creating personally distinct books not unlike the Wiccan Book of Shadows. The Bible would cease to be.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Clueless? Please don't continue to attack my post and call me names.
A convenient red herring this. I never attacked you, nor did I call you a single name. You seem to be under the false impression that the Bible is "missing something", ergo you are clueless about this aspect of scriptures. You say you want info, but then you get all huffy when I give you some.
I don't mean to sound harsh but it seems to me that you don't really know the bible?
You don't sound harsh: just clueless. Sorry, if my bluntness seems harsh to you. but if you can't take it, why give it?
That isn't a bad thing as I know many people that are religious that tell me that they don't need a book to tell them aobut God. I can respect that.
Like many people, you make a lot of assumptions. These assumptions cause you to read something and decide it means something it was never meant to. Like the scripture about the Scriptures being inspired. You see that as being the same as being written, which is an obvious error when you stop and think about it.

Now, if you would stop trying to defend yourself and re-read my previous question. I would suggest that when you answer that, you will find that all of your other questions will also be answered. Really, really.
 
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