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What is the Bible?

jimb

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Premium Member
The Bible isn't "God's Word". Mouth, not pen.

As for me, this [is] my covenant with them, saith YHWH; My spirit that [is] upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith YHWH, from henceforth and for ever.
Isaiah 59:21
You are wrong on so many levels! It is sad.

The Bible is known throughout the world as God's Word. It is plain stupid to call it "God's mouth". FYI, the Bible is a book, so it is far more appropriate to call it "God's Word" than it is "God's mouth".

Again, God did not speak in some sort of archaic Englyshe, so your quoting Him in that obsolete language is idiotic. And what is meant by [is]? Are you adding words to what God said?

Humans are not reproduced by seeds! So it is bizarre to write such nonsense.

You will suffer the consequences for your nonsensical opinions. Read my "signature" below. It clearly applies to you.

I have had enough with trying to have a reasonable discussion with you. I am done, you dumb Ebionite.
 

Ebionite

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You are wrong on so many levels! It is sad.
If you can address my argument without making false assumptions then your claim that I am wrong might be more credible.

The Bible is known throughout the world as God's Word.
That's human tradition, not the truth.

It is plain stupid to call it "God's mouth"
Irrelevant - the point is that the actual word is spoken not written according to Isaiah.
 
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Andrew Stephen

Stephen Andrew
Premium Member
Peace to all,

To me in logic, the Bible is the inspired Word of God and a reference book of Historical, Non-Fiction. Somewhere it is written, "If everything were written, not even the world could contain the books." Perhaps the world is to small to hold all of the books that could be written or perhaps the words cannot be written so small or that they will be to little to read to fit all the words in the books written on the earth or that all the books written even with words too small to read and there will be too many books for earth to hold. I physically and finitely am unsure how to fit all the books that could be written on earth.

So we ask, if anything were not written, than what must we do for salvation, or what would Jesus do in all cases of fulfilled faith and morality not directly written in the Bible.

So just in logic, there has to be a responsibility for the verification of what the Bible inspires, references, through The Word. If, and just in logic to me the Word becomes The Church of the Body of Christ on Earth then The Church of the New Living Sacrifice, The Body of Christ becomes the Authority and Spirit and Life of the Bible, therefore the Bible is not the for-runner of leader of the Church.

To me the logic is from the created and through the becomings and all the logic that cannot be written is of the Church of Christ today and is in the Wondrous Mysteries of the Faith. To me the logic becomes from the created mortal and corrupt flesh and spirits becoming the souls of all mankind then becoming transformed immortal and incorruptible and becoming again, glorified and transfigured.

Peace always,
Stephen Andrew
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Andrew Stephen

Stephen Andrew
Premium Member
Peace to all,

True, and logically, if everything spoken by The Word were written, not even the world could contain the books.

"And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that "would" be written."

Would: (expressing the conditional mood) indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation.

"indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation, in logic"
To me in logic, The Christ is two persons of the Trinity in One Being, The Person of The Holy Spirit and God conceived by the Father, God from the Power of The Holy Spirit through and in the Person of Jesus and God and we are sisters and brothers from the Cross, "Ecce Mater tua", in our own personal Christ, all God, sons and daughters of God and becoming the mind, the intelligence, the Will of The Father, God in the created flesh from Adam and Eve through a human Body immortalized and incorruptibly transformed into the image of The Christ, becoming again, glorified and transfigured into the image of the Creator God as one God in being, for The Father.

“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
True, in logic to me, the Word is the Authority and Life and Spirit, spoken as the Autonomy as one before the Face of God in Justification and Self-righteousness, as God in infallible certainty that existed before creation was ever created was even created. To me in logic, The Word existed as the Person of The Holy Spirit, conceived from the Person of The Father through the Person of Jesus becoming The Christ in all mankind, becoming united with all mankind becoming again, all One God.

Peace always,
Stephen Andrew
 
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jimb

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Peace to all,

True, and logically, if everything spoken by The Word were written, not even the world could contain the books.

"And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that "would" be written."

Would: (expressing the conditional mood) indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation.

"indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation, in logic"
To me in logic, The Christ is two persons of the Trinity in One Being, The Person of The Holy Spirit and God conceived by the Father, God from the Power of The Holy Spirit through and in the Person of Jesus and God and we are sisters and brothers from the Cross, "Ecce Mater tua", in our own personal Christ, all God, sons and daughters of God and becoming the mind, the intelligence, the Will of The Father, God in the created flesh from Adam and Eve through a human Body immortalized and incorruptibly transformed into the image of The Christ, becoming again, glorified and transfigured into the image of the Creator God as one God in being, for The Father.

“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
True, in logic to me, the Word is the Authority and Life and Spirit, spoken as the Autonomy as one before the Face of God in Justification and Self-righteousness, as God in infallible certainty that existed before creation was ever created was even created. To me in logic, The Word existed as the Person of The Holy Spirit, conceived from the Person of The Father through the Person of Jesus becoming The Christ in all mankind, becoming united with all mankind becoming again, all One God.

Peace always,
Stephen Andrew
I don't know what all of this, taken together, means. Some of it seems to be contradictory. It certainly goes way beyond the OP: "What is the Bible?"

It resembles the type of thing that one hears from Catholics: a string of confusing sentences that appears to be some kind of mantra, i.e., if repeated often enough (without thinking about what is said), somehow God will be pleased. I totally disagree, as God knows what you need before you ask, and you won't be especially heard because of your many words.

Now, back to the OP... The Bible is a collection of ancient writings that, being divinely inspired, describes God's identity and His interaction with human beings. There are two separate covenants, the old and the new. The first is the history of the Jewish people, God's interaction with them, and His covenant agreement with them, expressed in His law.

The second describes the life of Jesus Christ, the Savior of all humanity, and His sacrifice that pays the requirement for the forgiveness of ALL sin. It also describes the new covenant that God makes with ALL people, what that covenant means, and a portrayal of the end times.

Of course, there is much more than the above in this collection of sacred "books", but that is a summary of the most important reasons God gave us our sacred Bible.
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
being divinely inspired
Divinely inspired books are not internally contradictory like the books of the Bible are. Specifically the Pauline doctrine of the resurrection is inconsistent with both the prophetic texts of the Bible and the theology of Judaism relating to sacrifice.
 
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