What is the definition of a "Woman"?

[ppp]

Wrong? Are you seriously gonna claim in Jim Crow South the black drinking fountains, restrooms, and other facilities were equal to the whites? Or am I misunderstanding you.

I was referring to your statement, "I don't think the same can be applied to the Transgender issue." So, yes. Wrong.

 

[ppp]

Do you know of any animal that claim gender as described on this forum other than humans?

Relevance? Go back and read what I said before you decide to plunge in.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That offends me, I feel black today.

Ted Cruz, is that you?

 

[SkepticThinker]

This is fine. I do not have a problem with pronouns. The problem is when a guy with male organs wants to play sports with women because he really IS a woman. He really is NOT a woman. He also could call himself a horse but is not one.

Where is that happening? Anywhere?

 

[SkepticThinker]

The assertion that the entire medical and phycological profession are in agreement isn't true. Pop culture bias drowns out dissenting voices. Its become a PC issue.

Gender reassignment is acting. To play the part some actors go so far as to modify their true bodies. Its in character 24/7. When Bruce Jenner decided to become Caitlyn Jenner, he took on an acting roll as a women. He gets a lot of attention now, attention that faded away from his previous sports career.

Ah, so transgender people are just in it for the money.
It finally all makes sense now!

Wait, that's also what I hear about rape victims.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Kelly of the Phoenix Good point...

The democratic left, socialist movement wants to treat everyone equal! Like I said.. Socialism is the first step towards Communism!
Men can become woman and be treated equally as woman!
The marriage of two people of the same gender are treated the same as how nature intended.
Don't lock up the car jacker.. The problem is caused by those who drive fancy cars, don't keep anything of value in your car it is your fault if you do!
Don't lock up the criminals the answer is; defund the police!
Everyone is equal EXCEPT for those people in power! FACT: The social democrats that voice "Defund the police" have armed security around their homes!
Don't stop the migrants from entering the country just give them a paper with a date and time they can present themselves to stand in front of a government board!

You've made it blatantly obvious who's got the political agenda here. Thank you|

 

[Wildswanderer]

I know what a female/woman is; do you?

Besides all the obvious differences, females humans have two X chromosomes in their cells, while males have both X and a Y chromosomes in their cells.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You're wrong. Even as a cis person, I was barraged by a constant litany of that is what girls do and that is what boys do. Very little of it had any reference to biology.

What the heck is a cis person? Why can't you just call yourself a man or woman?

 

[ppp]

What the heck is a cis person?

If you don't know, then you are not qualified to have this conversation.

 

[Stevicus]

I guess we still haven't gotten to the bottom of this question, but as it keeps coming up in my alerts, I thought I'd add this thought on the subject:

 

[GardenLady]

I read an article recently that demonstrates that people grossly overestimate the percentages of the population that various groups represent. That is, they think FAR more people are Black or Hispanic or gay or transgender than really are. For all that people are het up about transgender people, it's a tiny, tiny percent of the population. (1.4M in US adults, per Williams Institute vs 258.3 adult per Census). But I suppose it's a convenient dog-whistle.

Americans Overestimate Minority Group Sizes | National Review

 

[Kfox]

The gender that a person presents as doesn't impact you in any significant way.

I never said that it did! I said gender as described in this thread is a social construct, and there is a heck of a lot more to what makes a biological man or woman than their sex organs. Now if you disagree with that, explain why.

 

[Kfox]

Relevance? Go back and read what I said before you decide to plunge in.

How about if you repeat or provide a number; I don't have time to go back and read every single thing you've posted thus far

I was referring to your statement, "I don't think the same can be applied to the Transgender issue." So, yes. Wrong.

So in what way do you equate the transgender issue to Jim Crow laws?

 

[Kfox]

Besides all the obvious differences, females humans have two X chromosomes in their cells, while males have both X and a Y chromosomes in their cells.

Excellent! Perhaps that is the description you should have given in the first place.

 

[Kfox]

If you don't know, then you are not qualified to have this conversation.

All opinions are qualified to have this conversation. Just because an activist decided to label normal people "cis" doesn't mean the normal people have to accept that label.

 

[ppp]

I never said that it did! I said gender as described in this thread is a social construct, and there is a heck of a lot more to what makes a biological man or woman than their sex organs.

And I say that sex organs is what the complaints against trans persons boils down to. You claimed it was reasonable complaint. I said it was a petty complaint. You asked why complains based on sex organs are petty. I said they are petty because the gender that a person presents as doesn't impact you in any significant way. You then claimed to have never said that the complaints against trans persons based on sex organs were reasonable, and repeated your former statement that started it all.

 

[ppp]

How about if you repeat or provide a number; I don't have time to go back and read every single thing you've posted thus far

Mmmm. Too much time and effort for you to go back to the comment immediately prior to your response. Poor thing.

 

[Kfox]

And I say that sex organs is what the complaints against trans persons boils down to.

Perhaps I misunderstood you. I do not agree most complaints are about sex organs, had I understood what you were talking about I would have voiced my objection. When I look at the media, most of the complaints I see are concerning athletes. I've seen countless complaints of biological male swimmers, fighters and runners beating biological female swimmers, fighters, and runners, but don't recall any complaints in the media about sex organs; do you?

 

[Sheldon]

Question.. Do you think a Supreme Court Judge should know what a Woman is!?

Do you think a good quality for a judge is an open mind?

 

[Sheldon]

The democratic left, socialist movement wants to treat everyone equal! Like I said.. Socialism is the first step towards Communism!

Facile paranoia.

Men can become woman and be treated equally as woman!

Are you suggesting women should not be treated equally?

The marriage of two people of the same gender are treated the same as how nature intended.

Nature is insentient, it has no "intent".

Don't lock up the car jacker.. The problem is caused by those who drive fancy cars, don't keep anything of value in your car it is your fault if you do!

A knee jerk false dichotomy if ever there as one.

Don't lock up the criminals the answer is; defund the police!

Just like buses look, none for ages then two in a row...

FACT: The social democrats that voice "Defund the police" have armed security around their homes!

FACT saying FACT in capital letters, and enclosing the claim with FACT, doesn't make it a FACT.

Don't stop the migrants from entering the country just give them a paper with a date and time they can present themselves to stand in front of a government board!

That's called immigration, America would not exist as the country it is now without it, indeed the economies of most post industrialised countries make immigration a necessity.