I would say no capital punishment for anything less than murder,
First we have to define the capital punishments, and its constraints
For instances in Islamic law the punishment of murder can be lessened to no punishment at all if the family of the victim accepted to have the “Deya” which is a financial compensation. And the holy Qur’an encourages this pardoning.
The Sharia, capital punishment of theft (cutting the right hand), is only for two kinds of theft, the thief who break to a house and steal, and the one who borrowed something and then lied telling that he did not, and then it was proved that he actually have the borrowed the thing.
So there is no capital punishment for pickpockets, frauds, who steal by deceit, checks fakers, who steals form his parents, or any other kind of theft. For these kinds the law of “Tazeer” which includes prison or lashes.
The courts in Egypt however do not apply the cutting punishment even in the two kinds, still it does not contradict with Sharia, Because they Legal systems in Egypt applies a law in Sharia which says “the judge should prevent the punishment by any reasonable doubt”.
So simply the legal System Makers applies this rule, the doubt is that there is no Just witness in these days, many can witness that someone has stolen for only 100 Egyptian pounds or even less. So cutting the hand of an accused thief would be an irreversible punishment.
Now we get to Adultery, Regarding the holy Qur’an the only punishment for both the already married person or the single person with the constraints that 4 just witnesses had seen the detailed sexual intercourse is 100 Lashes provided the it does not lead to death or handicap.
Keep in Mind that the holy Qur’an and the Prophet encouraged anyone who fell in this sin to keep it a secret and repent to God from it.
The disaster was in the fake Prophet’s traditions, which lead to the law of Stoning to death for any already married person who commits adultery with another person.
Same disaster of fake Prophet’s traditions lead to the punishment of Apostasy by Death., This disaster lead to Muslims killing each other till today.
So the problem actually is the wrong understating and the fake prophet’s traditions along with misinterpreted History events that happened after the prophet’s life.
So to concise my opinion:
1- The Murder Capital Punishment is the only death Punishment that should be allowed, alone with encouragement to accept the financial compensation and pardon.
2- The theft cutting the hand punishment should not be applied due to the lake of just witness in these days. Or only applied if it has been proven with many just witnesses with no single atom of doubt.
3- The only punishment for adultery is 100 Lashes provided that it does not lead to death or handicap.
4- There no any kind of punishment to apostasy.
I think you’ll find that we agree a lot.
raise the age of consent to 18 or at least 16,
I agree totally
Replace amputations as a punishment in the few places where that is still practiced with prison sentences,
As I mentioned :
The theft cutting the hand punishment should not be applied due to the lake of just witness in these days. Or only applied if it has been proven with many just witnesses with no single atom of doubt.
rally against female circumcision,
100% Agreed
and more rights for women, rights that in some places only men have today.
Agreed
I'm not asking you to believe this, but imagine how incredibly far it would go to reduce hatred of the West towards Islam if Islam made some adaptations in the cause of a world peace between Muslims and Westerners, because the West's hatred of Islam is the driving force behind all the West's horribly evil interventions in Islamic countries, If there is any reduction in the West's hatred of Islam, Evil Western leaders will no longer have excuses or support to go to war with Islam.
Agreed
In return the West needs to make some serious concessions of its own to Islam, get their troops the hell out of Muslim countries, Muslims do not need America's help with solving their own religion's, culture's and people's problems,
Agreed
Muslims are going to have to give up their idea of controlling the whole world,
Agreed
Sadly many Muslims believe in the Some Extreme stupid scholars’ opinion justifying the attempt of Muslims to control the whole world.
This is due to the misunderstanding of the Islamic History,
Muslim armies conquered many countries in the middle ages for only one reason: Because the Regimes in control of these countries did one or both of the following two things:
1- Prepared to attack the Muslims states
2- Prevented any Islamic preaching or killed any Muslim preacher or anyone who converts to Islam.
How is this noble reason converted in the extremists minds that Muslims should conquer the whole world, Sad as it is but the blame is on the extreme scholars and fake traditions.
And Westerners are going to have give up their idea of controlling the Muslim world.
I hope so.
In the holy Koran in the final prophecies it talks about two paradises, One in the East (Islam) and one in the West (Christian??)
No, what verses are you talking about, kindly post.
THERE WILL BE NO FINAL HOLOCAUST BETWEEN THE WEST AND THE EAST killing everyone on earth, as some jamat ismaiyala were preaching at my Mosque.
There is no Holocaust, may be the Jamat Preacher was talking about these verses from chapter 17.
4- And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.
5- So when the [time of] promise came for the first of them, We sent against you servants of Ours - those of great military might, and they probed [even] into the homes, and it was a promise fulfilled.
6- Then We gave back to you a return victory over them. And We reinforced you with wealth and sons and made you more numerous in manpower
7- [And said], "If you do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves." Then when the final promise came, [We sent your enemies] to sadden your faces and to enter the temple in Jerusalem, as they entered it the first time, and to destroy what they had taken over with [total] destruction.
8- [Then Allah said], "It is expected, [if you repent], that your Lord will have mercy upon you. But if you return [to sin], We will return [to punishment]. And We have made Hell, for the disbelievers, a prison-bed."
This verses predict a war in Palestine between Muslims and Jews over the Eastern Jerusalem Aqsa Mosque. But it did not tell the exact time or date, and how it will be.
Keep in mind that these talks about soldiers and buildings, no innocent civilian should be hurt as it’s described clearly in the holy Qur’an and the prophet’s life and actions.
There has to be a Two state solution, just as in Israel/Palestine, there is going to need to be greater separation between the East and the West.
Israel itself does not want peace, Israel is formed by a mixture of Jews from numbers of many cultures, countries and backgrounds, if peace happens these portions will turn against each other and there will be at least disturbance and tension in Israel, or even civil war. Israel needs the Arabs to be enemies in the picture, but to a certain extent, only to have its citizens forgetting their differences.
But If two Arabian Countries unite and defeat the Israeli armies occupying their lands thus causing unacceptable deaths to Israelis, like Egypt and Syria in 1973, then why not have peace with Egypt to get her out of the equation, then help destabilize Syria and divide it at the end.
But as temporary solution, may be if Israel stops dreaming of Building the Jewish temple over the Aqsa Mosque, so may be the final battle will not be in our lives or even our grandchildren lives, I hope so.
Some Easterners living in the West are going to have to return to the East because they are not living peacefully in the West. Some Westerners and their troops stationed in the East, are going to have to return to the West because they are not helping the East at all.
Agreed
I know its only a dream, but I am 52 and I dream of seeing world peace in my lifetime. I believe according to prophecy that world peace is not a fantasy but an attainable but very difficult task. All the Abrahamic religions envision peace at the end of this final war, either we take the steps to accomplish it quickly or more and more people die, we don't have time to be CONSERVATIVE, we don't have time to be FUNDAMENTALISTS, We need to come up with modern solutions to problems that hadn't even begun to exist in the Prophet's(pbuh) time.
sincerely Lyndon Taylor or Mahmoud Abdullah Khan(my muslim name)
I have the same dreams, but sadly not all dreams come true.
Regards,
Mahmoud
