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What is the purpose of religion?

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh, I quite agree. But you implied that only certain religions, those that were founded by or are closely associated with certain key figures, e.g. Krsna, Moses (pbuh), Jesus (pbuh), Muhammad (pbuh), Baha'u'llaah, count as true religions...

They all seem to start off as true religions IMHO. But they are not the only ones.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
So what doesn't count as a true religion, iyo?

Religion should be like a healing medicne. The caue of love and unity amongst people.

When it causes hatred and disunity, then that religion is like a poison, and not true religion at all.

To leave such a religion is a truly religious act.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Religion should be like a healing medicne. The caue of love and unity amongst people.

When it causes hatred and disunity, then that religion is like a poison, and not true religion at all.

To leave such a religion is a truly religious act.
It can be said that ALL religions cause disunity.
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Religion is what you rely on to get through life. It asks what is the true life to live? , how can I achieve eternal life, joy, peace, love and justice?

it stretches beyond what is known, ever seeking ultimate truth. it is the pursuit of all these things of life itself.

it almost always has a higher power of authority, freedom, and inspiration.

when one gets to the end, they can die in peace no matter what happens.

religion strives for that peace and contentment.

Nah, it just pretends to provide those things to keep its pews and collection plates full.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
If it is the truth?

Whose notion of justice? And how do you know what the needs of humanity are?

I am a Baha'i. I believe in God and Baha'u'llah as God's Manifestation of God for this day. His words confirm this truth for me.

The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy.

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The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
I am a Baha'i. I believe in God and Baha'u'llah as God's Manifestation of God for this day. His words confirm this truth for me.

The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy.

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Okay. I don't think we can go any further with this conversation.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Nah, it just pretends to provide those things to keep its pews and collection plates full.

many do just that. others are sincere about it, even when it's total myth.

for me religion it is a personal hope though I don't follow any of the religions out there.

it's a form of questioning, and a Reliance based on reasoning what could be?

I totally realize it holds nothing for many people.

I enjoy the concepts of the soul and spirit, and truth, and faith, and belief, they are useful to me.

even if we cease to exist upon death, it's still a form of exploration to me. and it still holds insights to me that science may sweep under the rug and totally dismiss.

for instance, the concepts of love, charity, benevolence, justice, compassion, patience, prosperity, all are religious in nature, even if it's one's own religion only and nobody else follows it.

religion asks the question, what's the worth of the soul, and what's the worth in life?
 

Sen McGlinn

Member
Your post puzzles me. Surely religion is a major impediment to reform of established orders.

Not always, religion played a major role in the development of parliamentary government in Europe, via the English non-conformists, and again later: Cromwell and his network were not part of the Anglican Establishment! So that's twice in English history that revolution/ evolution has come about through changes in religious ideas.

https://www.amazon.com/World-Turned-Upside-Down-Revolution/dp/0140137327

The same could be said of the Constitutional Revolution in Iran: a large part of the modernizing activists had a background in the Babi / Bahai Faiths, and the Bahai communities served as a network across the country for transmitting new ideas and putting them into action locally. Bahais internally were treating women as equal, giving boys and girls modern western-style education, and so forth. They were not revolutionaries (most of the English non-conformists were also not revolutionaries), but the effects were revolutionary.

The Taipei "rebellion" is another instance, but i know little about it. And the Mahdi rebellion, ditto.

Another occasion when religion has been the catalyst for change that the economic + political order was not seeking is the abolition of the slave trade and slavery in the West.
 
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