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What is wrong if human beings turn to G-d?

paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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ManSinha said:
Do you as a Muslim believe that Adam was a nabi? and that Allah created Hawwa from a piece of his body? Straight answer @paarsurrey - do you believe that is true or not?
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I have a great respect of Guru Baba Nanak, he was a friend of G-d.
Adam and Hawwa got evolved as got others.
There is no harm if we all turn to G-d. Right, please?

Regards
 
ManSinha

ManSinha

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paarsurrey said:
Adam and Hawwa got evolved as got others.
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Adam and Hawwa did not exist - and the representative of the first male chromosome and first female chromosome existed centuries apart from each other -according to scientific investigations and conclusions

Where does that leave the "truthful" religion that asserts they existed at the same time?
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
ManSinha said:
Adam and Hawwa did not exist - and the representative of the first male chromosome and first female chromosome existed centuries apart from each other -according to scientific investigations and conclusions

Where does that leave the "truthful" religion that asserts they existed at the same time?
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Do they have list with names of all the human beings that existed since inception?
The title of the thread is "What is wrong if human being turn to G-d?" Right, please?

Regards
 
ManSinha

ManSinha

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paarsurrey said:
Do they have list with names of all the human beings that existed since inception?
The title of the thread is "What is wrong if human being turn to G-d?" Right, please?
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Don't evade the topic - you have mentioned "truthful religion" more than once
Don't run away when challenged

And yes - there is wrong if humans believe that their "god" is the only way and that "his" dictates are to be followed and try to coerce others in to it. If you believe in your god and leave others alone - then there is probably no issue with it. That is the straightforward answer to your question right there.

Your people (muslims) have a history of massacring those they thought were non believers especially in India over the centuries. So I have serious issues with your outlook about god and to be frank with a supposed religion that purports to dictate every facet of life.

Do not ask stupid questions like lists of names of human beings since inception - it is plain that the Qu'ran as does Genesis refers to the "first created humans about 6000 years ago" that has been proven inaccurate by science many times over. How many "Adam"'s do you know that are referred to as Nabi in the Qu'ran?
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Jedster said:
You said in post number 5
"Whatever concept of G-d one's heart and soul makes."
This assumes that all have a concept made by one's heart & soul", which is just not true.

So, putting that aside, how about responding to the rest of my post which contains a question to your self. Here is the post:


Now try and understand that not every person has made those concepts and remain without any god concept.
So my question to you is what do you see in your own self that makes you believe in a god?

I'd appreciate a straight answer without quotes from any book
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"This assumes that all have a concept made by one's heart & soul", which is just not true."

No compulsion for those who don't have a concept.

Regards
 
Jedster

Jedster

Flying through space
paarsurrey said:
"This assumes that all have a concept made by one's heart & soul", which is just not true."

No compulsion for those who don't have a concept.

Regards
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Once again you have ignored the main part of my post, which said
"So, putting that aside, how about responding to the rest of my post which contains a question to your self. Here is the post:
Now try and understand that not every person has made those concepts and remain without any god concept.
So my question to you is what do you see in your own self that makes you believe in a god?
I'd appreciate a straight answer without quotes from any book"




 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Jedster said:
Once again you have ignored the main part of my post, which said
"So, putting that aside, how about responding to the rest of my post which contains a question to your self. Here is the post:
Now try and understand that not every person has made those concepts and remain without any god concept.
So my question to you is what do you see in your own self that makes you believe in a god?
I'd appreciate a straight answer without quotes from any book"
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"not every person has made those concepts"

The concept of G-d of the truthful religion has not been made by any human. Right, please?

Regards
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Jedster said:
Once again you have ignored the main part of my post, which said
"So, putting that aside, how about responding to the rest of my post which contains a question to your self. Here is the post:
Now try and understand that not every person has made those concepts and remain without any god concept.
So my question to you is what do you see in your own self that makes you believe in a god?
I'd appreciate a straight answer without quotes from any book"
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"what do you see in your own self that makes you believe in a god?"

I believe in G-d very naturally as I believe in my father/parents. Rights, please?

Regards
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

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paarsurrey said:
Didn't one mention Religion- Atheist, please?

Regards
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And didn't I say that atheism is not a religion?

It is a belief about religion, yes, but it is not a religion itself. There is no holy text, no holy men, no rites or ceremonies, no temples, no gatherings of atheism. Atheism is not a religion.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Tiberius said:
I'm sorry, are you suggesting that having repeatable testing to verify your results is NOT a good idea?
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If you doubt your parents, you may ask the whole town about them, I won't stop one. Right, please?
The profound love of my parents with me convinced me heart and soul. I needn't. Right, please?

Regards
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

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paarsurrey said:
If you doubt your parents, you may ask the whole town about them, I won't stop one. Right, please?
The profound love of my parents with me convinced me heart and soul. I needn't. Right, please?

Regards
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So you agree that being able to verify something is important before you can believe in it?
 
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