What is wrong (or right) with inter-racial and inter-religious marriages?

[Epic Beard Man]

I’m expanding this discussion here which was a topic from the Hinduism DIR regarding an issue of a Muslim man wanting to perform a ritual for his deceased wife who was Hindu.

Among some of the comments, @Aupmanyav was against inter-religious marriage which is fine, but it posited the question in my mind whether orthodox believers of religion are for or against inter-religious marriage? I ask the same regarding inter-racial relationships.

I have to ask why are humans who can create civilizations and books infused with wise words or have cities named after specific cultures, against the exchange of culture whether it’s food or our very sons and daughters?

What example or excuse could one make where they are against the sharing of culture and religion with another member of the same species?

 

[LuisDantas]

There is no reasonable possible defense for the active avoidance of inter-racial relationships.

Religion is somewhat different a matter. It reflects language and values, and there is a lot to be said about pursuing compatibility of same within a relationship.

 

[sayak83]

I’m expanding this discussion here which was a topic from the Hinduism DIR regarding an issue of a Muslim man wanting to perform a ritual for his deceased wife who was Hindu.

Among some of the comments, @Aupmanyav was against inter-religious marriage which is fine, but it posited the question in my mind whether orthodox believers of religion are for or against inter-religious marriage? I ask the same regarding inter-racial relationships.

I have to ask why are humans who can create civilizations and books infused with wise words or have cities named after specific cultures, against the exchange of culture whether it’s food or our very sons and daughters?

What example or excuse could one make where they are against the sharing of culture and religion with another member of the same species?

Orthodox Hinduism is OK with inter-species marriage ( like Nagas, Asuras,,Devas, Yaksha-s, Rakshasha-s, Kinnara-s, Kirata-s, Vanara-s). So I am pretty sure inter-religious and interracial is fine. Classically the Greeks, Persians, Scythians, Arakans, had had little difficulty settling down in India... and Indians too settled throughout South East Asia and East Africa. I don't see any problem here.

 

[Kenny]

There is no reasonable possible defense for the active avoidance of inter-racial relationships.

Religion is somewhat different a matter. It reflects language and values, and there is a lot to be said about pursuing compatibility of same within a relationship.

i believe this says it correctly -- not that inter-religions can't be achieved but it does create a lot of problems and creates potential for it not working resulting in a divorce.

 

[Cacotopia]

Orthodox Hinduism is OK with inter-species marriage ( like Nagas, Asuras,,Devas, Yaksha-s, Rakshasha-s, Kinnara-s, Kirata-s, Vanara-s). So I am pretty sure inter-religious and interracial is fine. Classically the Greeks, Persians, Scythians, Arakans, had had little difficulty settling down in India... and Indians too settled throughout South East Asia and East Africa. I don't see any problem here.

I'm sorry did you just say inter-species marriage.?

 

[LuisDantas]

i believe this says it correctly -- not that inter-religions can't be achieved but it does create a lot of problems and creates potential for it not working resulting in a divorce.

As they say, the first step towards divorce is marriage...

 

[Jainarayan]

I'm sorry did you just say inter-species marriage.?

Yes, those names listed are different races, types of humanoid beings in Hindu mythology (not as in fairytale but as in corpus of stories). Nagas are snake-like beings, vanaras are simian-like (think of Hanuman the "monkey god"), asuras are a class of beings who were always against the gods (devas), rakshasas are another class of *usually, but not always) bad guys.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

There is no reasonable possible defense for the active avoidance of inter-racial relationships.

Religion is somewhat different a matter. It reflects language and values, and there is a lot to be said about pursuing compatibility of same within a relationship.

Ethnic culture is also a part of religious culture

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I’m expanding this discussion here which was a topic from the Hinduism DIR regarding an issue of a Muslim man wanting to perform a ritual for his deceased wife who was Hindu.

Among some of the comments, @Aupmanyav was against inter-religious marriage which is fine, but it posited the question in my mind whether orthodox believers of religion are for or against inter-religious marriage? I ask the same regarding inter-racial relationships.

I have to ask why are humans who can create civilizations and books infused with wise words or have cities named after specific cultures, against the exchange of culture whether it’s food or our very sons and daughters?

What example or excuse could one make where they are against the sharing of culture and religion with another member of the same species?

Nothing wrong with inter-racial marriages of course. But inter-religious marriages can potentially be asking for trouble, especially among the devout.

 

[LuisDantas]

Ethnic culture is also a part of religious culture

So I hear.

Being a Brazilian, I have a hard time imagining it, let alone justifying it.

Above that, I don't think that the need to care for mutual acceptance and understanding can legitimally go so far as to become a defense for cultural stagnation - religious, ethnic or of any other form.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I'm sorry did you just say inter-species marriage.?

That is the correct answer way as we are homo sapiens

 

[Epic Beard Man]

So I hear.

Being a Brazilian, I have a hard time imagining it, let alone justifying it.

But being Brazilian don’t some Brazilians even among the Afro-Latins there incorporate Brazilian culture with religious tradition.

 

[YmirGF]

My cousin married a Muslim man who was lovable and quite moderate until he took the kids to Saudi Arabia and was never heard from again. (She could not get the time off work and he convinced her that they would be back in two weeks and he just wanted to introduce them to his family. She never suspected that he was outright lying to her about his intentions.) Sadly the Government of Canada was unable to help her due to the distinct lack of interest the Saudi's had in pursuing the man.

 

[LuisDantas]

But being Brazilian don’t some Brazilians even among the Afro-Latins there incorporate Brazilian culture with religious tradition.

Brazilian culture is gloriously mongrel in nature. To the extent that one can claim that it exists as such, that is.

We very often laugh of our own attempts at classifying our people according to ethnic groups. It is just too unwieldly a task.

A friend of mine is, far as I can tell, of mainly Italian genetic stock. And as it turns out, she is also an adherent of Candomblé.

 

[Jumi]

Don't see anything wrong with it myself. For people that want to limit this, there seems to be a strange kind of permission given to men to marry whatever group they want, whereas women are thought of as property who shouldn't get to decide who to marry outside of the group.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Brazilian culture is gloriously mongrel in nature. … A friend of mine is, far as I can tell, of mainly Italian genetic stock. And as it turns out, she is also an adherent of Candomblé.

That is a great thing about Brazil. I know of an equally typical case of a USian who wanted to practice Santeria, but couldn't bring herself to do it until she unearthed a black ancestor from 200 years ago: that preserved her from the crime of "cultural appropriation"!

Race is of course irrelevant, or should be.

There are obviously going to be problems with marriages between people of different religions if those religions have radically different perspectives, just as there would be problems if a communist married a fascist. And what about the children?

Of course, there are still countries where two people of different religions cannot marry: Israel and most Muslim countries. It's not that the marriage is banned, but that these countries have no civil marriage, so there's no-one available to perform the marriage unless one partner converts. People from Israel and the Lebanon often get married in Cyprus for this reason.

 

[LuisDantas]

Brazilians are often at odds with each other for all kinds of reasons.

Even ethnic differences, it must be said. But those are definitely among the lesser reasons.

Religious differences are a more serious divide, but even that is often not very relevant.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, those names listed are different races, types of humanoid beings in Hindu mythology (not as in fairytale but as in corpus of stories). Nagas are snake-like beings, vanaras are simian-like (think of Hanuman the "monkey god"), asuras are a class of beings who were always against the gods (devas), rakshasas are another class of *usually, but not always) bad guys.

Nagas sure was a tribe's name. I think Vanaras and Rikshas (bears) also were tribes. Jai, 'Asura' in Vedic Sanskrit means someone very powerful, it could be a God or an adversary of Gods. For example, Vritra, the great demon of darkness in RigVeda is called an 'asura'. Rakshasas, as you said were generally but not always aversaries of Gods. Ravana was a Rakshasa, but a great devotee of Shiva, a great scholar and not really a bad person.But all that is not the subject of this topic. It is just to clear a few things.

Orthodox Hindus would not have a problem with an inter-religious marriage between Indian religions - Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism, and such marriages do occur in India. With Christianity and Islam, it is a different story. These are exclusive predator religions which try to denigrate Indian culture. That is why a marriage with people from these religions creates problems.

For people that want to limit this, there seems to be a strange kind of permission given to men to marry whatever group they want, whereas women are thought of as property who shouldn't get to decide who to marry outside of the group.

That is simple. Generally, the children will go to the religion of the father.

And what about the children?

Yeah, that is a question.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Nagas sure was a tribe's name. I think Vanaras and Rikshas (bears) also were tribes. Jai, 'Asura' in Vedic Sanskrit means someone very powerful, it could be a God or an adversary of Gods. For example, Vritra, the great demon of darkness in RigVeda is called an 'asura'. Rakshasas, as you said were generally but not always aversaries of Gods. Ravana was a Rakshasa, but a great devotee of Shiva, a great scholar and not really a bad person.But all that is not the subject of this topic. It is just to clear a few things.

Orthodox Hindus would not have a problem with an inter-religious marriage between Indian religions - Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism, and such marriages do occur in India. With Christianity and Islam, it is a different story. These are exclusive predator religions which try to denigrate Indian culture. That is why a marriage with people from these religions creates problems.

Predator religions huh?

What about the Hindus attacking African students? Isn’t that predatory?

 

[LuisDantas]

Do you have some more specific reference about those attacks?