What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?

[LuisDantas]

Now you're really confusing me, maybe stop projecting riddles that come from your own egoic perceptions, and openly explain what you're meaning??

Maybe also try explaining why you think I'm bias, having challenged each religion independently on this forum for different issues??

Because you are in essence giving witness of the existence of something that does not exist.

Just so I'm clear, i admit I am playing a sort of game, as i've stated elsewhere; having fulfilled prophecy as an angel sent before the Tribulation, don't always explain that openly, as most people don't even get the basics, without arguing it all isn't real.

So you decided that you trust your certainty that there is a prophecy fulfilled enough to justify deciding that there must be an equal and opposite attitude from Jewish People towards Muslims... just because?

I find that rather irrresponsible.

 

[wizanda]

Because you are in essence giving witness of the existence of something that does not exist.

Which point specifically? Can it be proven it doesn't exist? Not sure why I'd state something without a reasoning behind it, that can't be backed up.

So you decided that you trust your certainty that there is a prophecy fulfilled enough

Based on everything i've been told all my life by the divine, and having examined many texts globally, it is based on scientific analysis of the data available.

Would rather turn it around, which is why i was sent before it to try and save this world; yet clearly people just want to argue instead.

to justify deciding that there must be an equal and opposite attitude from Jewish People towards Muslims

One person can not decide how other people interact, that is an illogical statement applied to me.

If we even examine this thread, some Jewish people don't go around causing more strife, and are doing everything possible to create more peace, whilst others are consistently creating more hatred.

It isn't even specifically a Jewish thing, it is more a type of personality; some are wheat producing fruit because they have faith, others are tares who bind everyone up in their spiteful character.

Yet within the context of the thread, since we're heading for war in the middle east surrounding Israel; surely it makes sense not to aggravate the situation.

 

[LuisDantas]

Okay, I am done. Sorry for wasting my time.

 

[YmirGF]

Okay, I am done. Sorry for wasting my time.

You have more patience than I do... and that's saying a lot...

 

[Godobeyer]

So maybe Arafat made-up the idea of a Palestinian state about 50 years ago, and none of the regional powers are really interested in making it happen. So if you want to say that Israel and Egypt and Jordan are ALL behaving badly towards Arafat's tribe, then that would change the entire conversation. And, BTW, I think it would help!

I do think peace is responsible for all sides, but a bit more for Israel,Israel treat Palestinians truelly badly.in most of cases with unjustice/unhumain behave.especially in war or cut lands,or shot the suspect even if he/she is not consider as threaten.

just new : Israeli soldiers chasing a "ship of fish," of Palestinian because just accused him that he passed the sea limit of Gaza strip !

they shot him,and take the ship to Israeli port.

Next day the Palestinian went to home,but dead.

The reality that much evil done by Israel toward Palestinians is fact.that you maybe can't deny ?

 

[icehorse]

The reality that much evil done by Israel toward Palestinians is fact.that you maybe can't deny ?

Hi Godo,

Like so many things in life, you can't really judge things without understanding the context. For example, you if you didn't understand the context of WWII, you could say that England and the US "invaded" France on D-day.

I think we can agree that war sucks. If you can keep in mind that Hamas has declared war on Israel, then you might look at the situation and claim that Israel has been more humane in this war than any other country has ever been. Of course that doesn't mean that there are not individual events that are inexcusable, but if you really want a good outcome for everyone, you have to zoom out and look at the overall situation from a broader context.

 

[Flankerl]

Tribulation is about to happen, and then only those who are Godly shall remain after.

Ah yeah of course. There is always a new phase when the prophecy doesn't fit anymore.

Because was quoting from a Jewish professor, with his PHD in Medieval religions, so assumed he knew what he was on about.... Thanks for the clarification.

Oh thank ****ing God. At least a Jew is still at fault. Heaven forbid it was you.

I somehow have the feeling that this "Jewish Professor" doesn't even exist.

Sorry you're right, there is a slightly different phraseology, things like people being anti-Israel, anti-Zionist, anti-Jewish, etc...

Thank you, it clearly helps understand this extremist position, where people are either agreeing with everything or they get put in the anti-everything Jewish category.

And into the trash it goes.

If we even examine this thread, some Jewish people don't go around causing more strife, and are doing everything possible to create more peace, whilst others are consistently creating more hatred.

You are lucky I don't have a few Tomahawks lying around.

 

[wizanda]

There is always a new phase when the prophecy doesn't fit anymore.

The prophecies are all already contained in the Tanakh; plus have multiple descriptors, that interlink within what Moses ascribed.

Heaven forbid it was you.

That would still make someone of Jewish genealogy responsible.

I somehow have the feeling that this "Jewish Professor" doesn't even exist.

Generally find him on Paltalk, within the Christian section; won't tell me where he teaches surprisingly.

 

[Godobeyer]

Hi Godo,

Like so many things in life, you can't really judge things without understanding the context. For example, you if you didn't understand the context of WWII, you could say that England and the US "invaded" France on D-day.

btw Allies were not innocent in WWII,they did awful crimes in Germany and Japan...etc done by Allies,if there was perfect "justice" many were jailed.

I think we can agree that war sucks. If you can keep in mind that Hamas has declared war on Israel, then you might look at the situation and claim that Israel has been more humane in this war than any other country has ever been. Of course that doesn't mean that there are not individual events that are inexcusable, but if you really want a good outcome for everyone, you have to zoom out and look at the overall situation from a broader context.

Isreal declared wars against Arabs even before Hamas exist.

The problem is not who declared first,whom did and doing bad treatement on ground more.

I know that you know Isreal was doing awful crimes to Palestinians,but telling truth can't be taught,it's earned by humanity thinking not biased. (as you pro-Isreal)

I meant it's seem that its hard to you to be pro-humanity instead to be pro-Israel !

 

[icehorse]

I meant it's seem that its hard to you to be pro-humanity instead to be pro-Israel !

Godo,

I'm a secular humanist - much more pro-humanity than any religious person is!

I just feel that it's because of religion (Judaism and Islam), that we can't have peace in Israel and "Palestine". I do not agree that Israel is acting worse than anyone else, I think they all have done bad stuff.

 

[leibowde84]

Because of not understanding any of the concepts presented; thus not sure want to debate with someone refusing to acknowledge how ideas, and myths come into existence, nothing happens by chance, everything has some form of origin...

That item within Jeremiah wasn't meant to be item specific (Boolean), it is an idea (variable), the same as the Jews killed jesus idea, and all the other references in the Biblical texts of sacrificing people, then all it took is a flame to light a dry haystack.

We also need to understand YHVH said he was going to do all this to them, for rejecting him.

When did Jesus say that?

 

[leibowde84]

Are you confirming these statements with the Jewish Encyclopedia?

Yep.

 

[leibowde84]

Some did. Some didn't, you are deliberately ignoring those who didn't, I have provided a link containing evidence and the names of those countries who sided against axis you chose to ignore and those Muslims who gave their lives for the allied cause, no straw man involved in facts

I never said all Muslim leaders.

 

[wizanda]

When did Jesus say that?

Moses cursed Israel in Deuteronomy 28, these specification continue throughout the prophets.

 

[leibowde84]

Moses cursed Israel in Deuteronomy 28, these specification continue throughout the prophets.

No, this is a curse if you don't follow the law. Not if you are Jewish. It's the opposite of what you claimed.

 

[LuisDantas]

btw Allies were not innocent in WWII,they did awful crimes in Germany and Japan...etc done by Allies,if there was perfect "justice" many were jailed.

Isreal declared wars against Arabs even before Hamas exist.

The problem is not who declared first,whom did and doing bad treatement on ground more.

I know that you know Isreal was doing awful crimes to Palestinians,but telling truth can't be taught,it's earned by humanity thinking not biased. (as you pro-Isreal)

I meant it's seem that its hard to you to be pro-humanity instead to be pro-Israel !

Trouble is, even if I somehow knew that your perception of Israel's blame is not unfairly biased (and that is a very big if indeed), that would still fail to account for things such as Palestinians settling for Hamas' plataform and the virtual absence of Muslims that openly condemn such tactics.

Far as I am concerned, that is no less than decisive. To accept "necessary" violence is to accept violence, full stop.

If Islaam does not know or does not want to teach Muslims to rise above settling for vengeful violence, then it is no good and should be judged accordingly. For far too long we have hoped that Islaam only looked deeply flawed and that we were not seeing the full picture. Enough is enough already.

 

[wizanda]

No, this is a curse if you don't follow the law. Not if you are Jewish.

The 2nd temple destruction, and diaspora was a divorce according to Zechariah 11.

Isaiah 65:15 says Judah shall remain a curse, there is just this state of denial about the facts of history.

Only the remnant that make it through the Tribulation are no longer under the curse (Zechariah 8:13).

 

[icehorse]

@Godobeyer @ChristineM @wizanda

I just started a spin-off thread here:

The entire ME is headed towards being 100% Muslim

The summary is that in the context of the ME in general, Israel is more or less the only tolerant society. 20% of Israeli's citizens are Muslim.

- The number of Muslims in Israel is increasing, not decreasing.
- The number of non-Muslims (Christians and Jews), in the ME is decreasing at a rate that makes it easy to project that - apart from Israel - the entire ME will be occupied by only Muslims within the near future.

Given this context, claims that Israel is the bad actor in this region - even as regards to Palestinians - are laughable.

 

[Godobeyer]

@Godobeyer @ChristineM @wizanda

I just started a spin-off thread here:

The entire ME is headed towards being 100% Muslim

The summary is that in the context of the ME in general, Israel is more or less the only tolerant society. 20% of Israeli's citizens are Muslim.

- The number of Muslims in Israel is increasing, not decreasing.
- The number of non-Muslims (Christians and Jews), in the ME is decreasing at a rate that makes it easy to project that - apart from Israel - the entire ME will be occupied by only Muslims within the near future.

I will give you a lesson of fact,
Now Muslims world is war zone, Western involvement is one of big factors.

Some Muslims are in war with terrorites,and they leaving ME because of that

Given this context, claims that Israel is the bad actor in this region - even as regards to Palestinians - are laughable.

That's your opinion.

facts on ground said the otherwise, YES Isreal did and doing crimes toward Palestinians,and Lebaness .

Being pro-Israel instead of pro-humanity,that not laughable.

 

[LuisDantas]

How fair is it to blame westerners for Muslim conflict? It seems to me that there was hardly any time in Islaam's history without significant inner conflict.

It wasn't "the West" that created the Shia-Sunni division and the various succession wars within the Muslim world, such as ISIS at the present time. Or the conflicts with Kurds. Or with the early Sikh Gurus. Or with current Buddhists in Asia and Hindus in Pakistan, India and Singapore. Or with Bahais. Or the tensions between Muslim Eritrea and Christian Ethiopia.

At some point the pattern must be acknowledged.