What is wrong with sharia law?

[Godobeyer]

We do not "think" much of it. We know.

And you also reject the stories/sources of homosexual people whom turned to straight.

 

[Kirran]

I don't made prejudice.

You are against homosexuality, and you want to turn gay people straight. So you're prejudiced. What would you say if you had a child, and your child came home one day and said they were in love with someone of the same gender and wanted to get married? If anything than 'Fantastic, I'm happy for you!' then you are prejudiced.

Ah you taking about some people lied ?

So you make generalizing that all homosexual people whom turned to straight are liars ?

No, I am not saying that. I am saying it is a matter of repression and self-denial.

Yes we don't have club.

Well, let's start one.

@Smart_Guy, @Debater Slayer, Godobeyer says I am an Arab so I think we should start a club.

 

[Godobeyer]

You are against homosexuality, and you want to turn gay people straight. So you're prejudiced. What would you say if you had a child, and your child came home one day and said they were in love with someone of the same gender and wanted to get married? If anything than 'Fantastic, I'm happy for you!' then you are prejudiced.

I don't make any prejudice here, that just in your imagination.

Yes I do consider homosexuality as wrong relation,as also many Westerns.

I said it's possible to turn homosexual people to straight you said it's immpossible but happened once or twice !

No, I am not saying that. I am saying it is a matter of repression and self-denial.

"Some people said we are homosexual, we back to straight and married opposite gender." what you say to them ?

Well, let's start one.

@Smart_Guy, @Debater Slayer, Godobeyer says I am an Arab so I think we should start a club.

Yes , so you need to start learn some Arabic, we will help you

 

[Kirran]

I don't make any prejudice here, that just in your imagination.

Yes I do consider homosexuality as wrong relation,as also many Westerns.

I said it's possible to turn homosexual people to straight you said it's immpossible but happened once or twice !

If you consider "homosexuality as wrong relation" then you are prejudiced. That's it. You didn't answer my question.

"Some people said we are homosexual, we back to straight and married opposite gender." what you say to them ?

That it's self-denial, internalised homophobia and repression.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

"Some people said we are homosexual, we back to straight and married opposite gender." what you say to them ?

That it's self-denial, internalised homophobia and repression.

That it sounds like they might be bisexual with an attraction stronger towards one sex than the other at some points.

 

[Kirran]

That it sounds like they might be bisexual with an attraction stronger towards one sex than the other at some points.

Yeah, in many cases yeah I think so.

Although often they'll be straight up near/exclusive same-sex attracted and just be going through societally-induced psychological torture.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Every country is different I believe. For example in Yemen unmarried men face whipping or one year in prison.

In Saud Arabia under the country’s interpretation of sharia law, a married man engaging in sodomy or any non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim can be stoned to death. All sex outside of marriage is illegal.

So what you're saying is sharia law is good in theory but only works on paper? Where have we heard that line used before?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

People are missing a key point. These nations with outrageous crime rates are corrupt from the top levels of government. Replacing the justice system does not solve the corruption from this level. It only provides another tool for a corrupt government. Corruption and justice are incomparable. It does not matter the justice system you use as none solve the core issues.

An excellent point. But one that quells dissenting opinions & stifles independent thought as violently as sharia law surely makes a bad situation worse?

 

[Smart_Guy]

@Smart_Guy, @Debater Slayer, Godobeyer says I am an Arab so I think we should start a club.

Power to the people

 

[LuisDantas]

And you also reject the stories/sources of homosexual people whom turned to straight.

I do indeed. They can't possibly overcome what I know of in person.

It does not help that I have so much reason to mistrust those stories on their own, either.

 

[Notanumber]

Having read this thread, it is obvious that Pat has been proved right again.

Who does this woman remind you of?

 

[Kirran]

More anecdotes and individual opinions.

In other news, I just made a monetary donation to Muslims for Progressive Values, which is actively promoting acceptance of diverse genders and sexualities within Islam.

 

[Notanumber]

This is informative and shows that it is impossible to get straight answers from Islamists.

 

[Godobeyer]

I do indeed. They can't possibly overcome what I know of in person.

It does not help that I have so much reason to mistrust those stories on their own, either.

Seems we are on disagreement.

I do trust stories , because fact is, gay/lesbien people get already relation with straight people with their own choice.

 

[Kirran]

Seems we are on disagreement.

I do trust stories , because fact is, gay/lesbien people get already relation with straight people with their own choice.

I could have sex with a man and enjoy it too, wouldn't make me gay.

You can have sex with your hand and enjoy it, doesn't mean you're sexually attracted to hands.

 

[Godobeyer]

If you consider "homosexuality as wrong relation" then you are prejudiced. That's it. You didn't answer my question.

I do believe that most of humans believe that homosexuality is wrong.

I do believe that most of homosexual people want to turn straight, and some could make it.

That it's self-denial, internalised homophobia and repression.

except if you get insert your self in their bodies

 

[Godobeyer]

I could have sex with a man and enjoy it too, wouldn't make me gay.

You can have sex with your hand and enjoy it, doesn't mean you're sexually attracted to hands.

SO everything is possible

 

[Kirran]

I do believe that most of humans believe that homosexuality is wrong.

Maybe, I don't know.

I do believe that most of homosexual people want to turn straight, and some could make it.

The first is nothing short of conjecture, and the latter is incorrect.

except if you get insert your self in their bodies

What do you mean?

SO everything is possible

That's not what I said even remotely.

 

[Shad]

An excellent point. But one that quells dissenting opinions & stifles independent thought as violently as sharia law surely makes a bad situation worse?

I already made a point regarding human rights abuses by nations which use Sharia days ago. Sharia being adopted by said nations is not going to produce any number of "Gold Stars" of merit. Sharia is a collectivist idea which will only help such dictators maintain power.

 

[Godobeyer]

The first is nothing short of conjecture, and the latter is incorrect.

What do you mean?

I mean where is problem if a gay said I turned to straight ?