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What is wrong with the Quran?

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Yes the Quran is certainly not from any God, if there was such thing.
I'm starting to suspect that early Islam was just another Christian sect. Muhamad may been a reference to Jesus. Tribal stories told from generation to generation. Muslim leaders attributing their own wisdom to the prophet of God.
Kind of convenient Muhamad was illiterate to explain why there was nothing ever written by him.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
for me personally there is everything wrong with the ugly book the Quran, its a book that I wish never appeared to mankind.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I'm starting to suspect that early Islam was just another Christian sect. Muhamad may been a reference to Jesus. Tribal stories told from generation to generation. Muslim leaders attributing their own wisdom to the prophet of God.
Kind of convenient Muhamad was illiterate to explain why there was nothing ever written by him.
Yes its all a wast of time, its an ugly belief system, there is no other words for it.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes, due to boredom. The long harangue accusing Jews of failing God was tedious. Will pick up in time.
Some people find Mathematics, Physics and or Chemistry boring. Is there something wrong with these subjects? These subjects are essential for looking deep in the nature or the Universe. The boredom could be superficial. Right? Please
Almost all or most of the questions one put in one's post have been answered already amply and reasonably, if one is interested I could provide the link. Please
Regards
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
I'm starting to suspect that early Islam was just another Christian sect. Muhamad may been a reference to Jesus. Tribal stories told from generation to generation. Muslim leaders attributing their own wisdom to the prophet of God.
Kind of convenient Muhamad was illiterate to explain why there was nothing ever written by him.
That's a provocative suggestion. You might find this wiki page of interest: Historicity of Muhammad - Wikipedia
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
It has been written that Islam has no equivalent of the Pope, but what is the order of control?

When they achieve world domination who will be the headman?

Will they continue to fight amongst themselves?

That's just it. They can never resolve this because the Quran does not appoint a system of succession.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
That's just it. They can never resolve this because the Quran does not appoint a system of succession.
As is the "Kingdom of God" a spiritual expression so is the system of succession truly explained in Quran:
Quran verse 24:56
[24:56] Allah has promised to those among you who believe and do good works that He will surely make them Successors in the earth, as He made Successors from among those who were before them; and that He will surely establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them; and that He will surely give them in exchange security and peace after their fear: They will worship Me, and they will not associate anything with Me. Then whoso is ungrateful after that, they will be the rebellious.

Please
Regards
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
As is the "Kingdom of God" a spiritual expression so is the system of succession truly explained in Quran:
Quran verse 24:56
[24:56] Allah has promised to those among you who believe and do good works that He will surely make them Successors in the earth, as He made Successors from among those who were before them; and that He will surely establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them; and that He will surely give them in exchange security and peace after their fear: They will worship Me, and they will not associate anything with Me. Then whoso is ungrateful after that, they will be the rebellious.

Please
Regards

It's not an authorised Will of Muhammad unfortunately but could be referring to the Imams but the Sunnis never agreed with this so there was a rift from the beginning.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
It could have been a lack of communication if the Quran is anything to go by.

I think that initially they followed culture and had the Four Rightly Guided Caliphs but then after that the Umayyads and Abbasids saw a chance to conquer and gain great power and wealth.

But many people joined Islam not because of a sword at their threat but because it offered a better way of life and became renowned for education and learning. Baghdad became the centre of learning at one time.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Resurrecting this thread:-

Concepts of retribution,

This is from chapter 2,

178You who believe, fair retribution is prescribed for you in cases
of murder: the free man for the free man, the slave for the slave, the
female for the female
.b But if the culprit is pardoned by his
aggrieved brother, this shall be adhered to fairly, and the culprit shall
pay what is due in a good way.

Note that this is clear direction in the Quran for honor killing. If one community kills one person from another community, a person of the same status can be killed from the offending community as retribution.

So if an Islamic country institutes honor killing as the law of the land, Muslims should consider it ethical and in accordance with Allah's will, correct?
 
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