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What is wrong with those people who get tattoos?

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
What on earth are you talking about?

Action and reaction.

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why upset? Even study shows that women experience more anxiety after they get tattoos. That's what the topic is all about pretty much. Anxiety vs confidence.
That just isn't the case. There are no studies that have established a positive correlation between getting a tattoo and experiencing heightened levels of anxiety, for men or women.
Action and reaction.

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Here is your "action/reaction:"
Turning the scars of abuse into beauty:


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Amazing art:

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Or even just "good 'ole fashioned" self-expression:
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sovietchild

Well-Known Member
That just isn't the case. There are no studies that have established a positive correlation between getting a tattoo and experiencing heightened levels of anxiety, for men or women.

Here is your "action/reaction:"
Turning the scars of abuse into beauty:

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ac16w4gfvtloxl2eqmr50idbmgpglz4ktc3s5jzjg8yzrfe3nbb43v8akungaqgg.jpg
Amazing art:

bird-tatttoo
3D-tattoo-idea-for-women.jpg

Or even just "good 'ole fashioned" self-expression:
watercolor-tattoo-for-women.jpg
779fa7714e88217b8a77a8e4fd449dbc.jpg

Research on tattoos reveals some interesting findings:
Women had a sharp increase in anxiety that may be associated with concerns about body image.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reef-karim-do/psychology-of-tattoos_b_2017530.html
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Research on tattoos reveals some interesting findings:
Women had a sharp increase in anxiety that may be associated with concerns about body image.

Tattoo Psychology: Art or Self Destruction? Modern-Day Social Branding | The Huffington Post
The one you are referencing stated "may be associated with concerns about body image," but it does not state the tattoo itself caused that. It could be, and probably is, much like is seen with body dysmorphic disorders, some people do get tattoos for the wrong reasons, thinking it will do things for them it can't, and after they get it, it's realized it doesn't do those things, and they are in a worsened position than when they started. It's not the tattoo, it's psychological.
 

columbus

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Research on tattoos reveals some interesting findings:
Women had a sharp increase in anxiety that may be associated with concerns about body image.
Perhaps your tendency to start threads about what's wrong with people who don't do or believe what you do is the result of anxiety and unhappiness.
It certainly seems that way to me.
Tom
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Perhaps your tendency to start threads about what's wrong with people who don't do or believe what you do is the result of anxiety and unhappiness.
It certainly seems that way to me.
Tom

Is there anything else besides anxiety - confidence, and depression - happiness?
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
What is wrong with those people who get tattoos? Are they afraid of something, and so in order to feel confident they tattoo them selves?

They are afraid of their lack of individuality, so they are trying to be unique.
Everybody does this in some way or other. The real concern is when people
do it in a way to try and act tough. So it can often (not always) be something
of a defense mechanism. I use to think it harmless when I was younger,
but as I am getting closer to 50 (its a very old photo of me people) I have
come to see it as something of a suggestion of weakness in character.
Of course we are all weak sometimes, so its no final judgement or anything.
Still; I cannot help but be swayed by how I assumed it was a harmless thing
and yet often found out that I was betrayed by such people. Although, a suit and
tie and a bald-shaven head are worse indicators of dodgy personality.

:-Q
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Research on tattoos reveals some interesting findings:
Women had a sharp increase in anxiety that may be associated with concerns about body image.

Tattoo Psychology: Art or Self Destruction? Modern-Day Social Branding | The Huffington Post
And, of course, there are societal stereotypes against women with tattoos and pressure for women to not have them, which supports both the linked study that indicates women are more likely than men to have them removed, and your referenced point of anxiety and self-image issues.
Still; I cannot help but be swayed by how I assumed it was a harmless thing
and yet often found out that I was betrayed by such people.
How is a tattoo not a harmless thing, and how are there "such people" that are inherently related to tattoos, and who are they? I've met many talented, skilled, and respectable tattoo artists, and I've met some who should have their hands broken for even picking up a tattoo gun (and many of them could face severe legal ramifications and great shame from the larger community over illegal tattoos (i.e.. those not performed in a shop by a licensed artist)). Gangs and white supremacists get tattooed and have artist to tattoo them, rockers and metalheads get tattooed and have artists who tattoo them, there are girly parlors, many parlors, and parlors that look indistinguishable from a regular office building. Your betrayal is unfortunate, but it's not an inherent part of tattoos, or those who get and/or do them. Tattoos, perhaps probably more than anything else, is a very diverse art that attracts people, very literally, from all walks of life.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
@Shadow Wolf Don't get me wrong. My favorite fighter is Conor Mcgregor. I even went and got a haircut just like his.
He's a tattooed fighter, I'm guessing? So do you think there is anything inherently wrong with him just because of his tattoos, and would you consider getting tattoos like his since you even want a haircut like his?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Is there anything else besides anxiety - confidence, and depression - happiness?
Euphoria, torment, agony, bliss, inspiration, desire, content, calm, proud, there are really many more than just those.
Also, anxiety and confidence really aren't opposite-ends like depression and happiness is. You can be confident in yourself and still have anxieties, such as performance jitters. As for happiness, what really is it? Is it the fleeting moment a parent has in seeing their child delighted and excited? Or is it looking at your life and saying "I am satisfied with my life?"
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Euphoria, torment, agony, bliss, inspiration, desire, content, calm, proud, there are really many more than just those.

Also, anxiety and confidence really aren't opposite-ends like depression and happiness is. You can be confident in yourself and still have anxieties, such as performance jitters. As for happiness, what really is it? Is it the fleeting moment a parent has in seeing their child delighted and excited? Or is it looking at your life and saying "I am satisfied with my life?"


Euphoria is a state of happiness. Torment is a state of depression. Agony is a state of depression. Bliss is a state of happiness. Inspire is a state of happiness. Content is a state of happiness. Calm is a state of confidence.


What do you think the opposite of anxiety is? Fear is a state of anxiety. Opposite of fear is confidence and calmness.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Euphoria is a state of happiness. Torment is a state of depression. Agony is a state of depression. Bliss is a state of happiness. Inspire is a state of happiness. Content is a state of happiness. Calm is a state of confidence.
I don't see emotions as that black-and-white, either-or. They really aren't. After all, there are six universally recognized facial expressions.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What are they?
A wide colorful spectrum. There are even words to describe emotions in other languages that have no translation/counterpart in English (not saying that they experience different emotions, but, rather, describe and express them differently). It's said there are six basic human emotions that everyone, in every culture can identify (anger, sadness, surprise, disgust, fear, and happiness). Some study has suggested we add contempt to the list. More recent research suggests there are four (anger, fear, happiness, sadness). They all suggest that though there are only a few basic emotions experienced by humans, we have evolved to feel and display them in complexed and highly developed ways, such as how the three primary colors combine to form every other color. But we don't refer to orange as red/yellow or say that purple is blue/red, and we don't say that green is the color of blue/yellow. And, certainly, it would difficult to describe the skies of blue, the trees of blue/yellow, yellow, and mixture of primary mixed with its complimentary. Rather, we'd describe a sky of blue, a sunset of orange, and a brown sandy beach.
It tells a little history of middle eastern.
I am aware of more than a little history of the Middle East. I'm also very aware that the US and other nations have done similar things, including launching proxy wars and imperialist policy, that mostly and rarely resulted in such terrorism. South America didn't start preaching Armageddon, global domination, or killing everyone who isn't one of them because the US military cleared the way for foreign corporations to buy up all their resources and economic institutions of their homes.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
A wide colorful spectrum. There are even words to describe emotions in other languages that have no translation/counterpart in English (not saying that they experience different emotions, but, rather, describe and express them differently). It's said there are six basic human emotions that everyone, in every culture can identify (anger, sadness, surprise, disgust, fear, and happiness). Some study has suggested we add contempt to the list. More recent research suggests there are four (anger, fear, happiness, sadness). They all suggest that though there are only a few basic emotions experienced by humans, we have evolved to feel and display them in complexed and highly developed ways, such as how the three primary colors combine to form every other color. But we don't refer to orange as red/yellow or say that purple is blue/red, and we don't say that green is the color of blue/yellow. And, certainly, it would difficult to describe the skies of blue, the trees of blue/yellow, yellow, and mixture of primary mixed with its complimentary. Rather, we'd describe a sky of blue, a sunset of orange, and a brown sandy beach.
Thanks for the info.

I am aware of more than a little history of the Middle East. I'm also very aware that the US and other nations have done similar things, including launching proxy wars and imperialist policy, that mostly and rarely resulted in such terrorism. South America didn't start preaching Armageddon, global domination, or killing everyone who isn't one of them because the US military cleared the way for foreign corporations to buy up all their resources and economic institutions of their homes.

If so, which nation first came to middle east for oil and why?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Thanks for the info.



If so, which nation first came to middle east for oil and why?
Doesn't matter: there has been imperialism and military dominance before oil, and Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, Cuba, Panama, and Puerto Rico didn't become bastions of global terrorism and human rights violations when the US military and the United Fruit Company came for bananas and militarily and economically dominated them, pummeling them into submission and buying up everything so they don't have a choice.
 

von bek

Well-Known Member
Doesn't matter: there has been imperialism and military dominance before oil, and Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, Cuba, Panama, and Puerto Rico didn't become bastions of global terrorism and human rights violations when the US military and the United Fruit Company came for bananas and militarily and economically dominated them, pummeling them into submission and buying up everything so they don't have a choice.

Quite true. Hell, the Roman Empire conquered the Middle East before they even knew about dinosaurs, much less the oil they all eventually turned into. ;)
 
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