Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Tattoos are not an indication of borderline personality disorder, and borderline personality disorder does not make one more likely to get a tattoo.
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What is wrong with those people who get tattoos?
- Thread starter sovietchild
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Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
I disagree.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I have a tattoo (and saving up for another), and I don't have BPD. I knew a guy with BPD, and he didn't have any tattoos. Disagree all you want, but that facts are there is zero correlation between tattoos and BPD.
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
Sure.
Plenty of people who are borderline do not have tattoos.
They harm themselves other ways.
And yes,
those tattooed in nazi concentration camps do not fit this category either.
How would you define borderline personality disorder?
(as opposed to bi-polar disorder - btw also BPD!)
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
A psychological disorder that is often characterized as "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde."
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
I'd say that Jekyll and Hyde is more like bi-polar.
My old text books from last century
characterized borderline as those that inflict self-harm.
Essentially my own analysis is that borderline is someone who could/should
have ended up a full-blown psychopath due to sever abuse, but retained enough empathy
to internalize the abuse into the subconscious. Now the empathy prevents the trauma
from being projected onto others, so instead it gets repeated onto the self.
(Sorry that is a bit brief)
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
They've been updated many, many times since then (and Freud has been largely discarded). You wont find any mention of tattoos being indicative of a mental disorder.
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
Oh I discarded all the recent versions as being full of contradictions and not at all in-keeping
with my own experiences. Freud is still the most well known psychologist despite the youth of today being
largely full of gripes; denialism, and projecting their own insecurities.
You are correct that there are few that directly mention tattoos, but self-harming is self-harming
regardless of who ordered or chaotic it is. Taking a knife or needle to your body is self-harming.
Do you think that everything recent is always better than everything older?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I have no idea how to respond to that. Things have changed so much over the past few decades, especially over the century that has passed since Freud, it's really only foolish to dismiss these new findings and new data, especially when it doesn't meet your own expectations of reality.
Well known doesn't mean correct. And it has nothing today with the youth of today, as Freud was discarded long ago, not because of the youth, but because we've come to realize he was full of crackpot ideas.
Tattoos are not self-harm.
Not always, but, when it comes to research, newer is generally almost always better, especially in psychiatry and psychology where out technological advances in just the past couple decades have rocketed our understanding of the human psychology to whole new levels, to depths and heights not conceivable by Freud.
