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What is wrong with those people who support homosexuality practices?
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Hope the horse doesn't pee in the process - then you'd have two medicines!
McBell
Unbound
I know, pass it under a urinating camel
Upaava
Member
May peace be with you,
The two things are not mutually exclusive. One can follow the Torah and NT directives warning against LGBT behavior while still being loving. Loving people that trust in the word of God, do their bests to guide others to follow that course.
Most attempts I see to 'guide' others turns out more of the bible bashing variety which never works and does not convince anyone that they're really 'loving.' This poor method of teaching only works to lead people away from any possible redeeming qualities of the Torah and NT, which I'm sure that Jesus as written wouldn't have approved of.
Upaava
Member
My brother or sister,
People are imperfect so, even with good intentions, they make mistakes.
Best to focus upon those sharing wisdom with love and humility.
meghanwaterlillies
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A typical ... ugh english is my first language maybe you should watch Bully. May be you want to leave.
sovietchild
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Oh, so sorry.
Assuming this were true (which, I'm fairly certain, it isn't...).
Wouldn't that somehow destroy their own mission? Gays would more or less be eradicating themselves. Well, and really, what's your problem with that? Isn't that simply their right? How does that entail forcing anything upon you? I mean, you know, just as a hint... don't have butt sex if you don't want it, right.
Vancouversailor
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My answer to this question is a simple "NOTHING!"
As a happily married heterosexual and a senior who is very confident about my own identity, I don't feel the least bit threatened by the fact that Joe and Paul or Ruby and Susan who live together in a house down the street have announced that they are getting married, or openly flout their same sex relationship. I strongly suspect that those who do feel threatened by the above scenarios are individuals who are very insecure about their own sexuality and probably have been so for many years. I can emphasize with the agony and fear that these individuals carry with them, particularly if they have family members or a religious affiliation that could be described as homophobic. However, I draw the line at their perceived right to attack, often violently, Paul and Joe and Ruby and Susan and spread vitriolic hate messages about them, as many, particularly in the United States as well as some African nations, are fond of doing.
I am also extremely pleased that attempts by certain right wing nutters to cancel funding for HIV research back in the 1980s were unsuccessful and that today an HIV diagnosis, whether sparked by homosexual or heterosexual bedroom practices, a blood transfusion gone wrong or self injecting by drug users, is no longer a death sentence.
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
@sovietchild
Hello!....
Now, let's quote you from this thread:-
You ran a whole thread based upon the above report, which was trawled up by some extremist Christian group and used on their website. So you copied that and usaed it here. The original report is unreachable or closed now.
I'm not interested much in that highly questionable drivvle, more interested in your extreme interest about homosexuality. You must think about Gays a lot.... you must!
But you are a Soveit, so I'm guessing that the bible doesn't count much with you?
So my question is this:- Why on Earth would you mind if two people of the same sex fall in love, and live together, and make love? It's not as if they leave their curtains open for you (metaphorically speaking) so....... what is wrong?
Hello!....
Now, let's quote you from this thread:-
You ran a whole thread based upon the above report, which was trawled up by some extremist Christian group and used on their website. So you copied that and usaed it here. The original report is unreachable or closed now.
I'm not interested much in that highly questionable drivvle, more interested in your extreme interest about homosexuality. You must think about Gays a lot.... you must!
But you are a Soveit, so I'm guessing that the bible doesn't count much with you?So my question is this:- Why on Earth would you mind if two people of the same sex fall in love, and live together, and make love? It's not as if they leave their curtains open for you (metaphorically speaking) so....... what is wrong?
He's an orthodox Muslim!
MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
Jesus did not condemn homosexuality in his ministry. Although I am a hetro type Christian minister (ordained) I have no moral qualms about most if not all consensual sexual activities. I disprove of some areas of a legal questions though. ~
capumetu
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Simple, those who practice it will not inherit God's kingdom. 1 Cor 6:9, 10:
Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, 10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
Thank you for listening
capumetu @yours.com No space after u
Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, 10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
Thank you for listening
capumetu @yours.com No space after u
I'm with you. One of the most beautiful Christians I know in my personal life is a non-heterosexual man who works with disaffected LGBT+ youth, including male sex workers.
MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
1 Corinthians 6:9 - 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
In this verse fornicators should be translated as idol worship not homosexuality. Eastons Bible dictionary reads that the word 'fornication' very often refers to either giving up on God or worshiping idols. Before the word homosexual is written in this passage there are three words are seem with a strong relation to the worship of other gods in the passage. The theme of worshiping other gods continues throughout the passage.
So yes homosexuality is a delicate subject especially with feelings running so high for and against. However there are other taboos practiced and that were candy coated by translators either accidentally or mistakenly.
MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
As a Christian I just couldn't see God condemning someone for the way they feel, so I researched the subject! I am happy for the kids and the man for making the world a better place.
I know a flip side to this.
Back when I volunteered at an AIDS hospice there was a volunteer I only met once. I hardly remember her name after all these years, I refer to her as L.
L was a hardcore bible literalist evangelical Christian and an elderly widow with a flock of kids and grandkids. "Mother" was the only job she'd ever had. I'm pretty sure she believed that clinic was full of hell bound homosexual sinners.
L showed up every Sunday after church with a basket of fresh baked goodies and a sympathetic, nonjudgmental, ear. She would listen to the guys and care about them. She would offer advice if asked, and not if she wasn't. For lack of a better word, she mothered the patients. Often it was the first mothering they'd ever had in their whole lives! Mothering was the only skill she had, but she was fantastic at it. Guys who wouldn't get out of bed all week suddenly needed to shave and dress because L was coming. People would still be talking about some little inspirational thing she said days later. It's hard to explain how wonderful she was. A saint as far as I am concerned. She obviously took Jesus's Teachings seriously, in a way that was dramatically lacking in the Christian Nation at the time. "What you do for the least...", "Judge not lest...", "Visit the sick..." etc etc etc!
Really, she was a total inspiration. Too bad that's so unusual I am still struck by it 25 years later.
Tom
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
The irony of a Muslim saying this is incredible. Islam was a minority religion when Muhammad started it.
sovietchild
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I'll tell you guys something about American ways. In America when you turn on TV, let's say channel 5, (free channel with antena) you might see 2 men sleeping with each other in the bed, the actors look like models, they have shinny hair and look muscular. If this is going to continue like that they will eventually fight for the right to be included in cartoons for children, after that they will fight for bigger rolls. Kings marry kings, princes save princes and princesses in love with princesses. Then, they will fight for something else, and eventually will punish you for not doing what they do. They will punish you for not supporting them.
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