What Is Your Most Controversial Religious Opinion?

[PureX]

I believe humanity tends towards evil. Why would we wish that as a replacement for God who is good?

Believing it does not make it so. I find that most people are good, and wish to do no harm to anyone. But they become easily confused, and frightened, and then act out in blind self-preservation, harming others and themselves. Too much of this can become a habit, and then a way of life, for some. But they are in a minority.

The problem is that fear and ignorance (selfishness) are both contagious, and habit-forming. The more we succumb to it, the more we will drive others to succumb to it. And the only antidote is faith. But too often religion is preaching belief in their dogma instead of faith in God (in universal love, forgiveness, kindness, and generosity).

 

[ppp]

I believe humanity tends towards evil. Why would we wish that as a replacement for God who is good?

If we tended towards evil then we would be extinct.

 

[ppp]

It appears that there is only One God wins hands down.

Regards Tony

Only in current popularity.

 

[ppp]

I worship Lucifer.


That's controversial to many groups of people especially in NC

Geez. Lots of NCers on here

 

[PureX]

What Is Your Most Controversial Religious Opinion?

That "believing in God" is fundamentally dishonest and counter-productive. What matters is FAITH is God, not belief. Because faith recognizes that hope is hope, not fact. It allows us to remain both skeptical, and honest, even as we choose to live by that hope.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I believe that is a non-controversy in monotheistic religions.

How many people other than Bahai's will agree that the B man is a manifestation of God?

Only in current popularity.

The entire world is being shaped by the Message given by Baha'u'llah that there is only One God who has given all the Faiths we have embraced.

Regards Tony

 

[Sedim Haba]

I've been watching some videos with what we might call controversial opinions. Some of these are about philosophy, some of these are about Ukraine etc.

What controversial opinions do you have about religion or other religious traditions?

I suppose one controversial opinion I'll share is that pretty much any religion examined on a strictly surface level or through a literalist framework is just going to sound ridiculous. I am strongly in favor of examine religions on a deeper level and all but completely forgetting the surface level of scriptures etc.

I think if you take the Bible as an example and interpret it as literal historical events not only does it become less useful but it also becomes far more harmful. This is true of the Bhagavad Gita, Ramayana, Quran etc. Quran being a little different because a good portion of that is aimed directly at the ummah at the time but a good portion of the stories referred to by the Quran have the same issue as stories from the Bible. Mostly because they are the same stories in a lot of cases.

Wait, were we supposed to actually state our most? Really? OK!

The Holocaust is the longest running curse in human history. 70 CE and counting. Next phase happening very soon now. VERY soon. Oh, in case you wannabe all kinda SJW, my mother's family is no more because of the last one. Just her and her parents, being in USA. All else, gone.

 

[DharmaCatLamp]

Wait, were we supposed to actually state our most? Really? OK!

The Holocaust is the longest running curse in human history. 70 CE and counting. Next phase happening very soon now. VERY soon. Oh, in case you wannabe all kinda SJW, my mother's family is no more because of the last one. Just her and her parents, being in USA. All else, gone.

I'm going to be honest in saying I am not 100% sure what you are saying here lol.

 

[Sedim Haba]

I'm going to be honest in saying I am not 100% sure what you are saying here lol.

Most assume the Holocaust is over with the last one. There was more before (MANY before) and there will be more to come. And don't lol.

 

[DharmaCatLamp]

Most assume the Holocaust is over with the last one. There was more before (MANY before) and there will be more to come. And don't lol.

I mean if you are talking about various deaths and the idea of genocide being over I don't actually think I know too many people who think that there will never be a genocide again considering you know... Those keep happening lol but I think I get what you mean now.

 

[Sedim Haba]

I mean if you are talking about various deaths and the idea of genocide being over I don't actually think I know too many people who think that there will never be a genocide again considering you know... Those keep happening lol but I think I get what you mean now.

No, I'm speaking specifically about genocide against Jews and you still lol so reprted.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Heck where I live my whole religious practice is controversal.

I mean...have you tried arguing that pagan gods aren't demons to more then one person, argued that worshiping multiple gods is valid and such?

I just casually mentioned at dinner im a luciferian pagan witch as I thought everyone at the group home already knew not like i hide it. Im open about it and it's no secret. I mention this cuz she was talking about how everyone at the dinner table should say grace and my response was: I'm a luciferian and a pagan witch sooo...if we saying grace might be better if I pray separately from y'all. The staff member on duty laughed and said you are a pagan witch? I was like "Yes ma'am. For some reason she seemed to think the idea of someone worshipping many gods was funny and said something about that being ridiculous.

Where I live in NC everyone assumes you are a Christian. If you aint you will most likely be automatically seen very differently and often can be treated differently.

Well, at least you said “ma’am”!

(Hope you’re doing ok.)

 

[Sedim Haba]

I mean if you are talking about various deaths and the idea of genocide being over I don't actually think I know too many people who think that there will never be a genocide again considering you know... Those keep happening lol but I think I get what you mean now.

Ya you probably really don't understand. The Genocide against Jews is the most hidden persecution of all. The Crusades? Jews were the prime targets, All along the way, every Jewish community wiped out. Dead. Such Xian Love.

 

[DharmaCatLamp]

Ya you probably really don't understand. The Genocide against Jews is the most hidden persecution of all. The Crusades? Jews were the prime targets, All along the way, every Jewish community wiped out. Dead. Such Xian Love.

I mean... No? Most of this stuff is fairly well known and not exactly hidden. I wouldn't say the Jewish communities were the primary targets of the crusades either so much as they happened to be targeted along the way. Of course it also depends what you are talking about when you say crusades. Are we talking about the Albigensian crusade for example?

To be fair though when speaking about the crusades usually we are talking about the attempt to capture / recapture the holy land from various Muslim rulers.
We also have the fourth crusade which had the whole sack of Constantinople thing going on. So the Jewish people being the prime targets of the crusades seems a little bit silly to me.

Edit: I realized in rereading this that I said so but instead of so much.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

My controversial religious opinion is: cherry picking beliefs that resonate with you, discarding beliefs you think are damaging or unhelpful, is better than uncritically following tradition.

Both believers and nonbelievers who think the only time religion is valuable is it its 100% literal or 100% authentic to original writings are missing a big chunk of the picture imo.

 

[DharmaCatLamp]

My controversial religious opinion is: cherry picking beliefs that resonate with you, discarding beliefs you think are damaging or unhelpful, is better than uncritically following tradition.

Both believers and nonbelievers who think the only time religion is valuable is it its 100% literal or 100% authentic to original writings are missing a big chunk of the picture imo.

I personally think this is very true and that people should decide for themselves.

I think this mostly becomes a problem depending on the type of religion. For instance you can't really cherry pick something like Daoism because by it's very nature there isn't really a cannon to what daosim is. It's a philosophy of uncertainty to some extent. Hinduism has something similar going on for different reasons. Now if you claim your religion is coming straight from God and is revealed by the God than you might have more difficulty cherry picking if you also claim to be part of that religion. However that is your own thing at your point then isn't it?

 

[Daemon Sophic]

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What controversial opinions do you have about religion or other religious traditions?
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Mine is in my signature. “I don’t know, and neither do you.”
People believe, people have absolute FAITH that their religion is true. But they. Don’t. Know.
So many say “I know”. But they don’t. They REALLY believe, but in the end, they have nothing but an assumption. And apparently, a rather pointless one at that.

Now don’t get me wrong. Often the sense of community is good for many. It would even seem that many people personally benefit psychologically by having the idea of some gentle, all-powerful and just, “father-figure” overseeing everything; deeply rooted in their minds…..but…. Nobody knows for sure.

After our brainwave activity goes flat-line….we MIGHT get an answer.
Or not.

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I find that this disturbs (and often angers) most people.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I've been watching some videos with what we might call controversial opinions. Some of these are about philosophy, some of these are about Ukraine etc.

What controversial opinions do you have about religion or other religious traditions?

I suppose one controversial opinion I'll share is that pretty much any religion examined on a strictly surface level or through a literalist framework is just going to sound ridiculous. I am strongly in favor of examine religions on a deeper level and all but completely forgetting the surface level of scriptures etc.

I think if you take the Bible as an example and interpret it as literal historical events not only does it become less useful but it also becomes far more harmful. This is true of the Bhagavad Gita, Ramayana, Quran etc. Quran being a little different because a good portion of that is aimed directly at the ummah at the time but a good portion of the stories referred to by the Quran have the same issue as stories from the Bible. Mostly because they are the same stories in a lot of cases.

Christians are likely worshiping Jesus Barabbas.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I've had the same fears myself

It’s reasonable to have such fear. Telltale Atheist from YouTube lived in West Virginia and his family had to flee the state when their town sent even his DAUGHTER death threats. A CHILD.

 

[Triumph]

I worship Lucifer.


That's controversial to many groups of people especially in NC

The Lucifer described in the Bible is not the Devil or Satan.
Lucifer is the name given to the first thermonuclear missile that is launched that starts the End of Days war, WW3.
A nuclear missile looks like a star as it rises even in sunlight and it is born like the sun of nuclear fusion. It is launched by a weaker nation with intent to destroy a stronger nation. It lands in total destruction as the world will respond by alliances to start the worst war ever fought on Earth and few will survive it, thermonuclear world war 3.