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What is Your Relationship Status?

What is your relationship status?

  • Single (Never Married)

    Votes: 16 25.4%
  • In a Relationship

    Votes: 7 11.1%
  • Married

    Votes: 35 55.6%
  • Divorced

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • It's Complicated

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Widowed

    Votes: 4 6.3%

  • Total voters
    63

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Ah I thought you were due to a post long ago. My bad.
No, you're fine.... :)
I think it is kind of sad commentary on society when there are labels for people who aren't interested in sex.
It stigmatizes people.

Aside from that, I don't believe we are sexual beings, I believe we are spiritual beings.
Is there a label for people who aren't interested in being spiritual? Do we call them aspiritual?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I tried a dating app recently but lots of guys on it were unkempt and sloppy in appearance, like and interested in children's things and as such I'm still single.
I know what you mean. In my age bracket, only a few men are clean cut. Most of them have beards and they don't realize it makes them look 10 years older. A beard is a turnoff for me so I just flip by those photos.
Aside from that, they are all interested in things I am not interested in so why bother?
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I've actually seen better dressed men on the paid dating sites, like Zoosk. However, I don't particularly like Zoosk either... too expensive, and too many fake profiles on it for that kind of expense.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I am a paid
I've actually seen better dressed men on the paid dating sites, like Zoosk. However, I don't particularly like Zoosk either... too expensive, and too many fake profiles on it for that kind of expense.
I am a paying member of Zoosk, only 11 dollars a month, but most of the men I see on there are really scruffy. If they are halfway decent looking they never respond to my messages. Yes, there are a lot of scammers on there too. I am also on eHarmony. They call it scientific matching but none of the men they match me to are even close to my interests. In almost a year there has only been one man I messaged. He was a nice man, and attractive, but we did not have the same interests. I am also a paying member of Spiritual Singles, only 12 dollars a month. I communicate with a few men on there but they are just friends since they don't live close to where I live.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I know what you mean. In my age bracket, only a few men are clean cut. Most of them have beards and they don't realize it makes them look 10 years older. A beard is a turnoff for me so I just flip by those photos.
Aside from that, they are all interested in things I am not interested in so why bother?
I'm not inherently turned off by beards, and I think most men look better with some facial hair, but definitely not when it resembles a rats nest.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
That is a hard hit at evolution.
But I wish that you are successful in finding your man.
Bahais only or others too?
Probably not a Baha'i this time. It was only an accident of fate that my late husband was a Baha'i.
I don't expect that to happen again, nor do I feel a need to marry a Baha'i. I think I'd rather marry a non-religious believer.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Nothing whirlwind about our connection. After we met we met for tea and then had a few dates. I'd been separated from my 'childhood' marriage for about five years but it had been only months for her. We were both doing therapy when we met and connected quite a bit around that. But we were both cautious. I suggested we do couples therapy to feel out how realistic we were being with ourselves. That helped. Early on she announced she thought a year was enough time to decide if we really wanted to get together. Funnily enough we ended up setting the date a year to the day we met. I often tell the story about how I got railroaded into it. ;) She had a six year old boy when we met and I didn't meet him right away which I appreciated that as it was our relationship which had to work if it was going to. It did and I don't think a kid can have too many parents as long as they're invested.
Yes, that is quite different from my situation. I met my late husband through my sister and mother who knew him becaue he was in theor Bahai community. Apparently he had been looking to get married since the Baha'i Faith recommends marriage although it is not required. At that time, he lived in S California and I lived in N California, so he wrote me some letters and I recall talking on the phone. I thought he was crazy, since I was in no way looking to get married. I was undergoing psychiatric treatment at that time as was he, so we could relate to each other and we had some similar family history and emotional problems, like anxiety and depression. I had not dated before that, nor had he, we were both virgins. Suffice to say, the honeymoon was very interesting. For the first year or so we kept the sex therapist in business, but it worked out in the end. About 15 years later we started having disagreements related to our careers so that caused a rift in the romance, but we stayed together as friends and companions. We were both Baha'is and we both loved cats so that held us together.
So do you think you were into his being older when you met? The age difference didn't bother me at all. (She was a hottie.) Plus I've always enjoyed the company of women best and she was serious about her life and I liked that too.
I cannot even recall thinking about his age until a week after we got married. I think I put that out of my mind, because I did not want anything to spoil my plans. Even later I did not think about the age difference and worry about it because I had to only live in the present and not think of the future in order to survive my very difficult life. If I ever thought about it momentarily, I hoped I would die before him, and I convinced myself that was possible since he was in good health until the last few years.
I think it probably just gets tougher to hook up as we get older. We're more set in our ways and know what we want. Perhaps a friend is the best we can hope for, with benefits if that clicks. Romance was low on my priorities when we met. When it happens, assuming I don't buy the ranch first, I'd only prioritize a strong bond with great communication, intimacy and company. I like doing quite a bit on my own as she does too. Merging romantically can go too far and I'm basically introverted so need time to move at my own pace and pursue my own projects without interference. She is the same but boy is she getting squeezed medically now, so many systems failing. The end is near and we talk about it, at least I bring it up. If she rallies and I get to go first I'll have dodged a bullet because she takes care of all paperwork, taxes, insurance, bills - like you.
I am also an introvert, and after the first 15 years or marriage, I started doing more and more on my own. We used to go on annual vacations together but that stopped after the first 20 years. I did my own thing and he did his own thing, both in the house but with different interests. What we shared in common was the Baha'i Faith and the cats, but he was interested in world news and politics and I wasn't so for the last 10 years I spent all my free time on different religious forums while he was watching TV.

I am sorry to hear that your wife is not doing well. It is very sad that couples who are long married eventually end up being widowed, and the spouse who si left behind has to try to find a way to cope. It is good to try to prepare yourself emotionally as much as possible. I was not prepared since I had no support system as I had dropped out of the Baha'i community for about 20 years ago, but now I am starting to try to connect again by attending some of their activities.
I anticipate doing the same. I've always thought I'm resilient enough to get through it but the real thing will be shocking, I'm sure.
I never planned to go to the GriefShare group, but after about six months it became obvious to me that it was a good idea, since the idea of getting remarried had fizzled out by then. I needed a place to go where I could connect to other people who were kind and empathetic and going through similar experiences. It was kind of awkward since it was Bible-based and at a church and everyone was a Christian. I am not a Christian so I did not want to talk about my religious beliefs out of respect for the group members. We share many beliefs about God and Jesus in common, but Baha'is do not believe in the Christian doctrines, like Jesus is the only way and only Christians go to heaven.
Well chin up and keep me posted how you're doing. Feel free to PM if you prefer. Pets are a great way to go. 8 cats sounds like enough. I've had dogs all my life and am on #8 now. After this pup goes I intend to adopt nothing but pups who have lost their human. I've always liked herding breeds but I'll need to think more about what they'll do when I'm gone finally.
Well, let me know how you are doing and feel free to PM me if you want to. We are both kind of in the same boat except that my boat already went under water, so I think I can be of help to others who might be facing a similar situation. I once aspired to be a counselor and I have a master's degree in psychology and a counseling license, but for various reasons that did not work out as my second career, so I stayed with my original career. I could have retired a long time ago if I wanted to but I am glad I kept my job since it gives me structure and stability and I like the work and the coworkers. Luckily I am permanently able to work at home.
 

Schwarzweg

Ullr, Nebet-Het,Wendigowak
Yes, that is quite different from my situation. I met my late husband through my sister and mother who knew him becaue he was in theor Bahai community. Apparently he had been looking to get married since the Baha'i Faith recommends marriage although it is not required. At that time, he lived in S California and I lived in N California, so he wrote me some letters and I recall talking on the phone. I thought he was crazy, since I was in no way looking to get married. I was undergoing psychiatric treatment at that time as was he, so we could relate to each other and we had some similar family history and emotional problems, like anxiety and depression. I had not dated before that, nor had he, we were both virgins. Suffice to say, the honeymoon was very interesting. For the first year or so we kept the sex therapist in business, but it worked out in the end. About 15 years later we started having disagreements related to our careers so that caused a rift in the romance, but we stayed together as friends and companions. We were both Baha'is and we both loved cats so that held us together.

I cannot even recall thinking about his age until a week after we got married. I think I put that out of my mind, because I did not want anything to spoil my plans. Even later I did not think about the age difference and worry about it because I had to only live in the present and not think of the future in order to survive my very difficult life. If I ever thought about it momentarily, I hoped I would die before him, and I convinced myself that was possible since he was in good health until the last few years.

I am also an introvert, and after the first 15 years or marriage, I started doing more and more on my own. We used to go on annual vacations together but that stopped after the first 20 years. I did my own thing and he did his own thing, both in the house but with different interests. What we shared in common was the Baha'i Faith and the cats, but he was interested in world news and politics and I wasn't so for the last 10 years I spent all my free time on different religious forums while he was watching TV.

I am sorry to hear that your wife is not doing well. It is very sad that couples who are long married eventually end up being widowed, and the spouse who si left behind has to try to find a way to cope. It is good to try to prepare yourself emotionally as much as possible. I was not prepared since I had no support system as I had dropped out of the Baha'i community for about 20 years ago, but now I am starting to try to connect again by attending some of their activities.

I never planned to go to the GriefShare group, but after about six months it became obvious to me that it was a good idea, since the idea of getting remarried had fizzled out by then. I needed a place to go where I could connect to other people who were kind and empathetic and going through similar experiences. It was kind of awkward since it was Bible-based and at a church and everyone was a Christian. I am not a Christian so I did not want to talk about my religious beliefs out of respect for the group members. We share many beliefs about God and Jesus in common, but Baha'is do not believe in the Christian doctrines, like Jesus is the only way and only Christians go to heaven.

Well, let me know how you are doing and feel free to PM me if you want to. We are both kind of in the same boat except that my boat already went under water, so I think I can be of help to others who might be facing a similar situation. I once aspired to be a counselor and I have a master's degree in psychology and a counseling license, but for various reasons that did not work out as my second career, so I stayed with my original career. I could have retired a long time ago if I wanted to but I am glad I kept my job since it gives me structure and stability and I like the work and the coworkers. Luckily I am permanently able to work at home.
Auch ICH könnte viiiel schreiben
Nur soviel : Mein Mann war 12 Jahre älter
2021 verstorben ( habe ihn ins Feuer geschickt )
2022 mein Vater verstorben und habe absolut mit meiner Familie gebrochen
2023 Katze vergiftet vorgefunden und Sterbeprozeß miterlebt ( 3 1/2 Jahre gehabt und eine extra Geschichte )
Das Allerallerschlimmste war die Katze
Ich werde nie drüber wegkommen, denn sie war ne Seelenverwandte und sie verstand mich und nahm mich
so wie ich eben bin .....................................
Verstehst Du das ??? Kann sie mir verzeihen, dass ich nicht rechtzeitig reagiert habe ?
Das ich nur ein einziges Mal NICHT nach ihr geschaut habe ? Das ich ZU sehr in MEINER Welt ,
im Alltag "gefangen" war ???
Bitte hilf mir. Der Arzt konnte nichts mehr tun mit 32 Grad ........
Davor grausiges Miauen und auf meinem Arm kalt und kaum Leben ................
Kannst Du mir helfen und mich beruhigen , da Du so viele Katzen hast !!!???
Verstehst Du mich ?
Man kann das Alles ganz normal sehen, aber ich bin sehr spirituell und die Katze war MEHR
als ALLES, was bisher so in meinen 60 Jahren war .
Allein bin ich NICHT .
Mein Sohn ist für mich da, aber trotzdem ist alles anders und hat sich um 180 Grad gewandelt .
Ich werde nie über die Katze hinwegkommen .............................
 

Whateverist

Active Member
I am not a Christian so I did not want to talk about my religious beliefs out of respect for the group members. We share many beliefs about God and Jesus in common, but Baha'is do not believe in the Christian doctrines, like Jesus is the only way and only Christians go to heaven.

Certainly an improvement to maintain that what is essentially a mystery is still a mystery and we should be far more humble than most Christian sects are about what we claim to know. I read a wonderful book which was recommended to me by one of my favorite Christian friends called Holy Envy by Barbara Brown Taylor which addresses this from within a Christian perspective. I have no interest in changing other people's beliefs and certainly do not ever want to undermine anybody's faith, but the resurrection and afterlife alternatives are of no interest to me. Also I tend not to use "God" at all for the same reason that the Tao that can be named is said not to be the real Tao; but when others do that is basically how I code switch to understand their meaning.

Well, let me know how you are doing and feel free to PM me if you want to. We are both kind of in the same boat except that my boat already went under water, so I think I can be of help to others who might be facing a similar situation. I once aspired to be a counselor and I have a master's degree in psychology and a counseling license, but for various reasons that did not work out as my second career, so I stayed with my original career.

I just might do that when my boat goes down. Right now we've just taken on a lot of water. But I am a realist and see what is coming. We still take a walk together every day and eat two meals together most days. She is an artist and though she has doctor appointments (or physical therapy or meets with a dietician) most days she puts Wednesdays aside for the studio and has a friend who works for her those days who is also an artist in her own right. She is currently in two shows locally, one in our town and one in Marin county. So she has a kind of structure which I think she enjoys too. I maintain and am always adding to a garden that is already too large given my growing list of mobility challenges. Except for what I can reach with my six foot orchard ladder I bring an arborist for anything higher up. I find I am quite content being well and truly retired. I read some in Iain McGilchrist's 1500 page tome The Matter With Things everyday and when I finish with that I look forward to getting back into reading good novels - something I considered a trifle when I was still teaching but now realize can be very special.

My wife and I moved into separate bedrooms a few years ago as waking each other up became more and more irritating. I'm an early riser, am in bed by 8 and want the light out by 9. She rarely goes to sleep before midnight and likes to go to sleep with the television on. Plus both of us have to get up to pee multiple times in the night. It is annoying enough when one has to wake up enough go themselves without also being woken up by the other doing so. This is so much more sensible. We can either one visit the other conjugally but there isn't a lot of real interest there on either side anymore. Still the companionship is great and I honestly don't know how much company I will want once the boat goes down. Before we got together I found that I'd spend a whole lot more time and energy putting myself in situations to socialize and meet people than I'd actually spend doing with a partner. So partnering up made more sense. Of course my libido would have provided a lot of the impetus for that back then.

I admired my father in law quite a bit. He and my mother in law were nearly the same age and they retired to a beautiful place and kept active for a long time. He always planned for her surviving him because women by and large do. But she who always ate and cooked healthy meals died at 80 of a congenital heart condition while he lived on into his mid 90's. Talking about what he missed most he said it was just having someone to tell what you saw on your walk each day.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Auch ICH könnte viiiel schreiben
Nur soviel : Mein Mann war 12 Jahre älter
2021 verstorben ( habe ihn ins Feuer geschickt )
2022 mein Vater verstorben und habe absolut mit meiner Familie gebrochen
2023 Katze vergiftet vorgefunden und Sterbeprozeß miterlebt ( 3 1/2 Jahre gehabt und eine extra Geschichte )
Das Allerallerschlimmste war die Katze
Ich werde nie drüber wegkommen, denn sie war ne Seelenverwandte und sie verstand mich und nahm mich
so wie ich eben bin .....................................
Verstehst Du das ??? Kann sie mir verzeihen, dass ich nicht rechtzeitig reagiert habe ?
Das ich nur ein einziges Mal NICHT nach ihr geschaut habe ? Das ich ZU sehr in MEINER Welt ,
im Alltag "gefangen" war ???
Bitte hilf mir. Der Arzt konnte nichts mehr tun mit 32 Grad ........
Davor grausiges Miauen und auf meinem Arm kalt und kaum Leben ................
Kannst Du mir helfen und mich beruhigen , da Du so viele Katzen hast !!!???
Verstehst Du mich ?
Man kann das Alles ganz normal sehen, aber ich bin sehr spirituell und die Katze war MEHR
als ALLES, was bisher so in meinen 60 Jahren war .
Allein bin ich NICHT .
Mein Sohn ist für mich da, aber trotzdem ist alles anders und hat sich um 180 Grad gewandelt .
Ich werde nie über die Katze hinwegkommen .............................
Ich verstehe, was Sie für Ihre Katze empfinden, und bin hier, um Ihnen auf jede erdenkliche Weise zu helfen.
Ich kann mir gar nicht vorstellen, wie schrecklich es gewesen sein muss, miterleben zu müssen, wie Ihre Katze an einer Vergiftung starb. Ich stehe meinen Katzen näher als jedem Menschen und es spielt keine Rolle, dass ich viele davon habe, denn sie sind alle etwas Besonderes. Ich habe so viele Katzen verloren und viele sind einen schrecklichen Tod gestorben, an Krebs, Gehirnerkrankungen, und der Rest ist an Nierenversagen oder Herzerkrankungen oder beidem gestorben. Ich habe die letzten Momente einiger von ihnen miterlebt, da viele von ihnen zu Hause starben. Mein Mann war immer bei mir, also war ich nicht allein. Ich fürchte mich davor, das jemals alleine durchmachen zu müssen, jetzt, wo ich allein bin.
Endlich wurde mir klar, dass der einzige Weg für mich darin bestand, eine andere Katze zum Liebhaben zu finden. Daher sind sieben der acht Katzen, die ich jetzt habe, Katzen, die ich adoptiert habe, nachdem ich Katzen verloren hatte. Nichts vertreibt diese Bilder aus unserem Kopf, außer der Lauf der Zeit und der Versuch, an andere Dinge zu denken, wann immer uns die Bilder in den Sinn kommen, und die Liebe zu einer anderen Katze.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I just might do that when my boat goes down. Right now we've just taken on a lot of water. But I am a realist and see what is coming.
I think it is good to be a realist and prepare yourself mentally and emotionally as far ahead as you can. I did not do that so I experienced a sudden shock. On an unconscious level maybe I knew but I did everything I could keep it out of conscious awareness. I think we all handle such circumstances according to our particular circumstances and personality. I have always had to use avoidance in order to manage my anxiety so I could function in everyday life. It is quite a balancing act.
We still take a walk together every day and eat two meals together most days. She is an artist and though she has doctor appointments (or physical therapy or meets with a dietician) most days she puts Wednesdays aside for the studio and has a friend who works for her those days who is also an artist in her own right. She is currently in two shows locally, one in our town and one in Marin county. So she has a kind of structure which I think she enjoys too. I maintain and am always adding to a garden that is already too large given my growing list of mobility challenges. Except for what I can reach with my six foot orchard ladder I bring an arborist for anything higher up. I find I am quite content being well and truly retired. I read some in Iain McGilchrist's 1500 page tome The Matter With Things everyday and when I finish with that I look forward to getting back into reading good novels - something I considered a trifle when I was still teaching but now realize can be very special.
It doesn't sound like your boat is going down any time soon but I will be here if and when it does. My late husband was not active doing anything for years before he passed. He started to go downhill emotionally when he retired in 2016 but it was so gradual I was not alarmed, and he would never admit he as depressed although in retrospect I think he was. Then when Covid came he got much worse, refusing to even leave the house. After a while he started to eat less and less so it was a battle just to get him to eat one meal a day. The doctor was not as alarmed as he should have been about the weight loss since he did not have any medical conditions except chronic asthma, which was managed by medications. He was not diagnosed with cancer until about three months prior to his demise, he was misdiagnosed as having prostate issues and urinary tract infections. I think his whole case was mismanaged so I will be filing a complaint with the HMO and possibly also filing a lawsuit since that is the only way I will ever know what really happened. However, part of the problem is that he had no desire to live so he just stopped eating but the hospital allowed him to make that choice.

I am active physically, exercising two hours a day, but I don't have any other outdoor activities such as gardening or yard work. With having to care for my husband and the house and deal with my two rental homes and eight cats, as well as working full time, I never had time for hobbies. I do spend a lot of time on this forum because I need a social network and a sense of purpose, and I like that I am always learning from others.
My wife and I moved into separate bedrooms a few years ago as waking each other up became more and more irritating. I'm an early riser, am in bed by 8 and want the light out by 9. She rarely goes to sleep before midnight and likes to go to sleep with the television on. Plus both of us have to get up to pee multiple times in the night. It is annoying enough when one has to wake up enough go themselves without also being woken up by the other doing so. This is so much more sensible. We can either one visit the other conjugally but there isn't a lot of real interest there on either side anymore. Still the companionship is great and I honestly don't know how much company I will want once the boat goes down. Before we got together I found that I'd spend a whole lot more time and energy putting myself in situations to socialize and meet people than I'd actually spend doing with a partner. So partnering up made more sense. Of course my libido would have provided a lot of the impetus for that back then.
My husband and I slept in separate bedrooms ever since we moved into this house in 2009. I slept downstairs with the male cats and he slept upstairs with the female cats since we had more cats back then and we had to keep the male cats separate from the females. But by that time we were not intimate anymore anyway. Eventually the three male cats that had not passed on were brought upstairs since they were sickly and I started sleeping upstairs, but he kept a completely different schedule after he retired so he usually slept in the living room in the recliner watching TV. Even though we did not sleep in the bedroom together for very long I cannot sleep in there now so I bought a daybed and mattress for the living room. I do not expect I will go back to sleeping in that bedroom ever again. The cats like it though and I need the space for them.

I was very miserable when he was alive for so many years, as long as I can remember, not because of the relationship but because he was so depressed and he would not take care of himself and I was at a loss to know what to do. I also had other things going on with cats being ill and dying constantly and constant problems with the rental houses. Now I don't have any of those problems so an objective observer might wonder what I don't feel better. But there is a lot more to it than that. The hole I feel with him gone is with me constantly and I don't think it is going to go away, so I just have to learn to live with it. I don't think anyone knows how they will feel or what they will do until they find themselves in the situation.
I admired my father in law quite a bit. He and my mother in law were nearly the same age and they retired to a beautiful place and kept active for a long time. He always planned for her surviving him because women by and large do. But she who always ate and cooked healthy meals died at 80 of a congenital heart condition while he lived on into his mid 90's. Talking about what he missed most he said it was just having someone to tell what you saw on your walk each day.
My mother and father were the same age but he died at age 53 and she lived to be 93, in spite of smoking and drinking for most of her life.
One never knows what their fate will be. They can plan things but so many things are out of our control, especially disease and death. Some people are just lucky, like my neighbor who has been married over 50 years, as both he and his wife are active and in good health. However, that luck could turn on a dime. I posted a thread about that once.

I have never planned for anything, including getting married. I did not plan to go to college, buy houses, and now I am not planning for retirement. I live fully in the present, and that is how I manage not to get depressed or anxious. I never think about the past unless I am talking to someone about it, and I never think about the future, since I don't have anything to look forward to except more of the same.
 

Schwarzweg

Ullr, Nebet-Het,Wendigowak
Ich verstehe, was Sie für Ihre Katze empfinden, und bin hier, um Ihnen auf jede erdenkliche Weise zu helfen.
Ich kann mir gar nicht vorstellen, wie schrecklich es gewesen sein muss, miterleben zu müssen, wie Ihre Katze an einer Vergiftung starb. Ich stehe meinen Katzen näher als jedem Menschen und es spielt keine Rolle, dass ich viele davon habe, denn sie sind alle etwas Besonderes. Ich habe so viele Katzen verloren und viele sind einen schrecklichen Tod gestorben, an Krebs, Gehirnerkrankungen, und der Rest ist an Nierenversagen oder Herzerkrankungen oder beidem gestorben. Ich habe die letzten Momente einiger von ihnen miterlebt, da viele von ihnen zu Hause starben. Mein Mann war immer bei mir, also war ich nicht allein. Ich fürchte mich davor, das jemals alleine durchmachen zu müssen, jetzt, wo ich allein bin.
Endlich wurde mir klar, dass der einzige Weg für mich darin bestand, eine andere Katze zum Liebhaben zu finden. Daher sind sieben der acht Katzen, die ich jetzt habe, Katzen, die ich adoptiert habe, nachdem ich Katzen verloren hatte. Nichts vertreibt diese Bilder aus unserem Kopf, außer der Lauf der Zeit und der Versuch, an andere Dinge zu denken, wann immer uns die Bilder in den Sinn kommen, und die Liebe zu einer anderen Katze.
Danke ,dass Du es verstehen kannst. Viel könnte ich über sie schreiben................sie war für mich die Katzengöttin BASTET persönlich.
WIE man spirituell leben SOLLTE tust Du (nur den Moment leben ohne Vergangenheit, denn die WAR und ohne Zukunft,
was soll schon noch gross kommen ) Dafür wirklich meine Hochachtung !!!
Schreibst Du auch auf Deutsch oder kannst Du deutsch, oder nur englisch ?
Ich bin Deutsche und dies Forum wird mir sofort übersetzt, wenn ich hier bin.
Wo wohnst Du denn ?
Wir sind wahrscheinlich riesig weit auseinander, aber toll, dass Du seelisch weißt , was die Katze mir
bedeutet hat und diesen Stellenwert auch nie verlieren wird .
Die anderen Dinge umfassen natürlich meine ganze Lebensgeschichte, aber tat nicht
so unendlich weh........................................
Ich würde mich freuen , wenn Du noch meine Frage beantworten würdest und dann wäre ich aus diesem Tema raus .
Vielen Dank für alles ......das war mir das Wichtigste überhaupt ....................
 

Whateverist

Active Member
It doesn't sound like your boat is going down any time soon but I will be here if and when it does

I do appreciate the offer and I may do that. I know I’m not quite in the same demographics as a widower but I’m happy to hear you out and respond as much or little as you like if that ever feels useful.

I am active physically, exercising two hours a day, but I don't have any other outdoor activities such as gardening or yard work.

You’ve got me beat. In part my recent decrease is because she always wants to come along. But of course what she can do is nothing relevant for me so we tend to go to large estate gardens or large dog parks so I can take pictures or at least give the dog work. She never was like this before but I think she really does feel fragile and needy now. I feel like I need to do as much as I can because of how hard she is working to stay alive. I probably will have some feeling of relief after but for now the misery you know is more appealing than the unknown one to come.

I think it is good to be a realist and prepare yourself mentally and emotionally as far ahead as you can. I did not do that so I experienced a sudden shock. On an unconscious level maybe I knew but I did everything I could keep it out of conscious awareness.

My disposition is to sink into whatever is happening in my life, highs and lows. I try to encourage her to consider if there is anything she’d still like do or think about before it’s all over beyond her many to do lists but I think death terrifies her so I don’t push hard. But she does frequently remind me that one of her biggest attractions to me were my thoughtful reflection and philosophy. So now and again I’ll bring something up that I think about in relation to death, if only tangentially.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Danke ,dass Du es verstehen kannst. Viel könnte ich über sie schreiben................sie war für mich die Katzengöttin BASTET persönlich.
WIE man spirituell leben SOLLTE tust Du (nur den Moment leben ohne Vergangenheit, denn die WAR und ohne Zukunft,
was soll schon noch gross kommen ) Dafür wirklich meine Hochachtung !!!
Schreibst Du auch auf Deutsch oder kannst Du deutsch, oder nur englisch ?
Ich bin Deutsche und dies Forum wird mir sofort übersetzt, wenn ich hier bin.
Wo wohnst Du denn ?
Wir sind wahrscheinlich riesig weit auseinander, aber toll, dass Du seelisch weißt , was die Katze mir
bedeutet hat und diesen Stellenwert auch nie verlieren wird .
Die anderen Dinge umfassen natürlich meine ganze Lebensgeschichte, aber tat nicht
so unendlich weh........................................
Ich würde mich freuen , wenn Du noch meine Frage beantworten würdest und dann wäre ich aus diesem Tema raus .
Vielen Dank für alles ......das war mir das Wichtigste überhaupt ....................
Ich lebe im Bundesstaat Washington, USA. Nein, ich schreibe und spreche kein Deutsch. Ich spreche nur Englisch. Ich habe Google Translate verwendet, um zu übersetzen, was Sie geschrieben haben. Ja, ich verstehe, was Ihre Katze für Sie bedeutet und bedeutet, weil mir meine Katzen so viel bedeuten. Ja, ich verstehe, dass manche Dinge zu sehr weh tun, um darüber zu schreiben. Es gibt viele Dinge, über die ich nicht schreiben kann, weil sie zu schmerzhaft sind. Das ist einer der Gründe, warum ich versuche, in der Gegenwart zu bleiben und nicht an die Vergangenheit zu denken, aber das ist nicht immer einfach.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I do appreciate the offer and I may do that. I know I’m not quite in the same demographics as a widower but I’m happy to hear you out and respond as much or little as you like if that ever feels useful.
Thanks. I will just play it by ear.
You’ve got me beat. In part my recent decrease is because she always wants to come along. But of course what she can do is nothing relevant for me so we tend to go to large estate gardens or large dog parks so I can take pictures or at least give the dog work. She never was like this before but I think she really does feel fragile and needy now. I feel like I need to do as much as I can because of how hard she is working to stay alive. I probably will have some feeling of relief after but for now the misery you know is more appealing than the unknown one to come.
You have the opposite situation from what I experienced. I was fighting to keep my husband alive for many years but he did not want to live and that gradually got worse and worse. He was like this even before he had any physical pain, but after he started having physical pain it was much worse. I was not aware of how much pain he was in because he tried to hide it. I feel bad that I did not know but my counselor agrees there was no way for me to know. He even hid it from the home health care nurse.

Yes, there was a feeling of relief afterward and he got what he wanted and was no longer in pain. For about six months, it did not register that I was going to be alone for the rest of my life since I had a fantasy that it would be easy to get married again. I probably thought that since it was so easy the first time, but only later did I realize that people don't get married the way I did the first time, and that was a fluke. That is aside from the fact that here are virtually no men who have interests even close to what I have or a compatible lifestyle, so even it our personalities were matched that would not work for marriage. I am very analytical and I have analyzed this quite a bit.

I consider it a miracle that I have survived the first year and I hope it gets easier each year. I message a man on a dating site daily whose wife of over 20 years passed on seven years ago, and he said it does get easier. We are just friends because he lives in Kansas and I live in Washington State and neither one of is is moving.
My disposition is to sink into whatever is happening in my life, highs and lows. I try to encourage her to consider if there is anything she’d still like do or think about before it’s all over beyond her many to do lists but I think death terrifies her so I don’t push hard. But she does frequently remind me that one of her biggest attractions to me were my thoughtful reflection and philosophy. So now and again I’ll bring something up that I think about in relation to death, if only tangentially.
Your wife is fortunate to have you to support her. My father was an atheist when he died but he died suddenly of a heart attack so he had no time to fear death. My mother was afraid of death even though she was a strong Baha'i and she was 93 when she passed. My sister-in-law, also a strong Baha'i, passed at about age 63 of cancer and she did not fear death at all. A couple of years after that my sister, also a Baha'i, died of cancer at age 53 and she fought to stay alive, mostly because she did not want to leave her daughter alone.

Except for my father, who never heard of the Baha'i Faith, all my family are/were Baha'is so we believe/believed in an afterlife, so we are not afraid becaue we feel/felt death is the end of life. I have a lot of anxiety about death and what will happen in the afterlife. Even though I believe in the promises of a glorious afterlife, I don't like change at all, even if it is for the better. That is one reason I have decided to remain in my house even though I have no idea how I am going to take care of it all by myself. I keep hoping for a miracle but I am not counting on it.
 

Left Coast

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