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What is your short story or one sentence, Why Do You love God?

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
I also believe that one day things are going to be different on earth, but why would it be God who straightens things out?
God never straightened things out in the past, so why would God suddenly decide to do that now?
I believe it is humans who will straighten things out and build the New Earth, with God's assistance.
I agree with you :twohearts:, in the past God has used humans to accomplish his will and there are examples of God doing things without the assistance of people, He has used Angels many times. God has made promises for our future. I believe like you do, humans will have a big part in accomplishing God's will. (Psalm 103:20, 21) —Matthew 26:53.

“Look! I Am Making All Things New”

Do you desire good health and a long life for yourself and your family? Do you long to live in a world where pain, suffering, and death will be things of the past? Such a world is not a figment of the imagination. On the contrary, a righteous new world will soon be a reality, for Yahweh God has purposed it. Note how the fulfillment of his purpose is described at Revelation 21:3-5

3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.”f Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful* and true.”
 
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Gargovic Malkav

Well-Known Member
I liked your comment very much. I myself favor the Holy Bible but many find comfort from different sources, or an uplifting quotation. Thanks :twohearts:

Alright, I've collected some quotes from the sources I mentioned before.

Bible - Psalm 146

3 Do not put your trust in princes,
in human beings, who cannot save.
4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing.
5 Blessed are those whose help is the God of Jacob,
whose hope is in the Lord their God.
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Apocrypha - The Forgotten Books Of Eden Chapter 61/62

18. Then came the Word of God again, and said unto them, "O Adam, arise, go and bring hither two figs."

19 Then Adam and Eve arose, and went until they drew near to the cave.

1 BUT Satan the wicked was envious, because of the consolation God had given them.

2 So he prevented them, and went into the cave and took the two figs, and buried them outside the cave, so that Adam and Eve should not find them. He also had in his thoughts to destroy them.

3 But by God's mercy, as soon as those two figs were in the earth, God defeated Satan's counsel regarding them; and made them into two fruit-trees, that overshadowed the cave. For Satan had buried them on the eastern side of it.
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The Quran Surah 103

(103:1) By the Time.

(103:2) Surely man is in certain loss.

(103:3) Save for those who believe, do righteous deeds, counsel one another to (follow) the Truth, and counsel one another to be patient (and persevering).
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Tao Te Ching Chapter 60

"Ruling a big country is like cooking a small fish.
If Tao is employed to rule the empire,
Spiritual beings will lose their supernatural power.
Not that they lose their spiritual power,
But their spiritual power can no longer harm people.
Not only will their supernatural power not harm people,
But the sage also will not harm people.
When both do not harm each other,
Virtue will be accumulated in both for the benefit of the people."
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
Alright, I've collected some quotes from the sources I mentioned before.

Bible - Psalm 146

3 Do not put your trust in princes,
in human beings, who cannot save.
4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing.
5 Blessed are those whose help is the God of Jacob,
whose hope is in the Lord their God.
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Apocrypha - The Forgotten Books Of Eden Chapter 61/62

18. Then came the Word of God again, and said unto them, "O Adam, arise, go and bring hither two figs."

19 Then Adam and Eve arose, and went until they drew near to the cave.

1 BUT Satan the wicked was envious, because of the consolation God had given them.

2 So he prevented them, and went into the cave and took the two figs, and buried them outside the cave, so that Adam and Eve should not find them. He also had in his thoughts to destroy them.

3 But by God's mercy, as soon as those two figs were in the earth, God defeated Satan's counsel regarding them; and made them into two fruit-trees, that overshadowed the cave. For Satan had buried them on the eastern side of it.
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The Quran Surah 103

(103:1) By the Time.

(103:2) Surely man is in certain loss.

(103:3) Save for those who believe, do righteous deeds, counsel one another to (follow) the Truth, and counsel one another to be patient (and persevering).
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Tao Te Ching Chapter 60

"Ruling a big country is like cooking a small fish.
If Tao is employed to rule the empire,
Spiritual beings will lose their supernatural power.
Not that they lose their spiritual power,
But their spiritual power can no longer harm people.
Not only will their supernatural power not harm people,
But the sage also will not harm people.
When both do not harm each other,
Virtue will be accumulated in both for the benefit of the people."
Very positive words from several sources, very nice :sparklingheart::twohearts:
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Such a world is not a figment of the imagination. On the contrary, a righteous new world will soon be a reality, for Yahweh God has purposed it. Note how the fulfillment of his purpose is described at Revelation 21:3-5

3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.”f Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful* and true.”
No, I do not think such a world is a figment of the imagination.
On the contrary, I believe that a righteous new world will eventually be a reality because God has ordained it.

I believe that the New Earth is in the process of being built, a process that is occurring alongside the tearing down of the old Earth.

I believe that the New Earth will be established in the present age, which began in 1844 AD, and it will be established by people working together to build it.

The Guardian of the Baha'i Faith called this age "the Great, the Golden Age of a long-divided, a long-afflicted humanity."

Baha'u'llah referred to this new age as the Day of God. Gleanings, p. 13
and He further stated that this is the Day in which humanity would be united in perfect unity and peace.

“This is the Day in which God’s most excellent favors have been poured out upon men, the Day in which His most mighty grace hath been infused into all created things. It is incumbent upon all the peoples of the world to reconcile their differences, and, with perfect unity and peace, abide beneath the shadow of the Tree of His care and loving-kindness. It behoveth them to cleave to whatsoever will, in this Day, be conducive to the exaltation of their stations, and to the promotion of their best interests. Happy are those whom the all-glorious Pen was moved to remember, 7 and blessed are those men whose names, by virtue of Our inscrutable decree, We have preferred to conceal.

Beseech ye the one true God to grant that all men may be graciously assisted to fulfil that which is acceptable in Our sight. Soon will the present-day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead. Verily, thy Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 6- 7

I believe that the New Earth is a new world order in which we will see the spiritualization of the peoples of the world and man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections: New Race of Men

The “World Order” that Baha’is envision pertains to a number of subjects: politics and governance, economics, society, and religion, as is covered briefly in this blog: Toward a New World Order?
 

Gargovic Malkav

Well-Known Member
Here's how I look at it: there are things I've done or that have been done to me that I do not believe I can just forget. But I know that one day things for the earth (and heaven) are going to be different. Right now, however, I am better off knowing (and believing) that God will straighten all things out. Now while He is God and we are not, I figure there must be a higher purpose for the good, even if we don't understand everything. Does that make sense?

What good would good be for us if there was nothing to contrast it?
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
No, I do not think such a world is a figment of the imagination.
On the contrary, I believe that a righteous new world will eventually be a reality because God has ordained it.

I believe that the New Earth is in the process of being built, a process that is occurring alongside the tearing down of the old Earth.

I believe that the New Earth will be established in the present age, which began in 1844 AD, and it will be established by people working together to build it.

The Guardian of the Baha'i Faith called this age "the Great, the Golden Age of a long-divided, a long-afflicted humanity."

Baha'u'llah referred to this new age as the Day of God. Gleanings, p. 13
and He further stated that this is the Day in which humanity would be united in perfect unity and peace.

“This is the Day in which God’s most excellent favors have been poured out upon men, the Day in which His most mighty grace hath been infused into all created things. It is incumbent upon all the peoples of the world to reconcile their differences, and, with perfect unity and peace, abide beneath the shadow of the Tree of His care and loving-kindness. It behoveth them to cleave to whatsoever will, in this Day, be conducive to the exaltation of their stations, and to the promotion of their best interests. Happy are those whom the all-glorious Pen was moved to remember, 7 and blessed are those men whose names, by virtue of Our inscrutable decree, We have preferred to conceal.

Beseech ye the one true God to grant that all men may be graciously assisted to fulfil that which is acceptable in Our sight. Soon will the present-day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead. Verily, thy Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 6- 7

I believe that the New Earth is a new world order in which we will see the spiritualization of the peoples of the world and man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections: New Race of Men

The “World Order” that Baha’is envision pertains to a number of subjects: politics and governance, economics, society, and religion, as is covered briefly in this blog: Toward a New World Order?
A new world order with peace on Earth! This is another thing we have in common, that's wonderful. :sparklingheart:
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
I am particularly grateful to the Creator for giving the human race the opportunity to continue existing, even though our first parents betrayed Him. To make that possible without violating his own universal justice, He was willing to sacrifice his spiritual son by sending him in human form.

Who would sacrifice his own son to save the offspring of a couple of traitors?
 

Niatero

*banned*
If Jesus is still alive, as Christians believe, how was that a sacrifice?
I've asked people how a few hours of suffering far, far less than how multitudes of people are suffering all the time, then after a few days going to sit at the right hand of God, is taking the punishment or paying the price for the sins of all people. The answer was that no matter how insignificant the suffering was, he was an infinite being so a small amount of suffering for him is equal to the suffering of multitudes of normal people burning in hell forever. That's the same answer that I found in a Web search.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
“Come to me, all you who are weary and are carrying heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30

This is the verse that was read to me while in the hospital by a pastor. Jesus immediately healed me and I changed from being an atheist to a devoted Christian.

That was 47 years ago, and I am still an ardent believer.
What did He heal you from?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I've asked people how a few hours of suffering far, far less than how multitudes of people are suffering all the time, then after a few days going to sit at the right hand of God, is taking the punishment or paying the price for the sins of all people. The answer was that no matter how insignificant the suffering was, he was an infinite being so a small amount of suffering for him is equal to the suffering of multitudes of normal people burning in hell forever. That's the same answer that I found in a Web search.
How would you know that His suffering was only physical and nothing beyond during the three days? And how does one quantify how much suffering there was in intensity?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member

I love this scripture: Rom 14:17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit

There is a work of being “right” or righteous before God where condemnation or regret vanish and are replaced by a peace that passes all understanding. It produces “joy” - the thermostat of life that is filled with God’s glory and empowers me to face the difficulties of life and opens doors of deliverance.

Not sure if that makes sense… but it makes sense to me. :)
 

Niatero

*banned*
How would you know that His suffering was only physical and nothing beyond during the three days?

That isn't what I think. I think that it could have been more than physical. For example he could have been grieving about His twelve not having any clue of what His mission was all about, after all the time He spent with them explaining it to them. He could have been grieving for Peter for denying Him, even though He knew that would happen.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
That isn't what I think. I think that it could have been more than physical. For example he could have been grieving about His twelve not having any clue of what His mission was all about, after all the time He spent with them explaining it to them. He could have been grieving for Peter for denying Him, even though He knew that would happen.
At the least we know that the physical effort to do what he had to do caused his capillaries on his forehead to burst. Very painful. Not to mention the whipping, beating and crucifixion. And that doesn’t include the spiritual side of all sin.
 

Niatero

*banned*
At the least we know that the physical effort to do what he had to do caused his capillaries on his forehead to burst. Very painful. Not to mention the whipping, beating and crucifixion. And that doesn’t include the spiritual side of all sin.
Oh, do you mean you think that he suffered emotionally the same way people would as a consequence of their sins, even though he was sinless?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I've asked people how a few hours of suffering far, far less than how multitudes of people are suffering all the time, then after a few days going to sit at the right hand of God, is taking the punishment or paying the price for the sins of all people. The answer was that no matter how insignificant the suffering was, he was an infinite being so a small amount of suffering for him is equal to the suffering of multitudes of normal people burning in hell forever. That's the same answer that I found in a Web search.
Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense, but what Christian theology does?
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
Jesus to me, is The Highest Example of Righteousness, for anyone born of a woman. to live a sinless life, to carry out his ministry doing his Father's will instead of his own, to do the right thing and endure all the temptations that life has to offer, to suffer at the hands of Pontius Pilate direction, to die such a Horrible Death.
His Father resurrected him, bringing him back to life, if anyone deserves to receive his life back, that would be Jesus! :heartpulse::sparklingheart::twohearts:

Jesus prays to his Father about what he is about to endure..
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” --Matthew 26:39
 
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