What Kind of Luciferian are You?

[EtuMalku]

Actually, Lucifer has nothing originally to do with the Abrahamic religions.
Lucifer is a pre‑Christian deity of ancient Roman and Greek mythology. He is mentioned in Publius Ovidius Naso's "Metamorphoses", which was written in 8 B.C.E., Roman poet Virgil mentions him as far back as 29 B.C.E. And the first mention is from Timaeus by Plato written 360 B.C.E

 

[Goblin]

Lucifer is the will of all Nature.
He is the horned one, the fire of life, existing everywere. Mother Nature is his consort and body.
I dont feel confortable calling it theistic or atheistic. Cause hes not an individual person, he IS individuality it self. But at the same time he is a real God.
These gods are real, but not childish person gods, they are energies that compose all life.

There is an omnia song i really like that says it all.
"Call me satan, call me satyr, call me cernunous, call me pan
Im the laughter in the forest, Im the happy horny one.
Dionysus, cocapeli, lord of animals, Green man.
...
See the horns upon my head, the hooves on which i dance.
feel the Passion rising up, lose yourself in trance
there are many gods inside your head and i am only one.
beleive in me Ill set you free, worship me as one."

lucifer is pitted against the imposter for or demiurge who is the society that pretends to be the real God/Mother who is Nature.
society baches thou shalts and pretends Its Nature

 

[Goblin]

I can dig luciastar's beleifs. I would dig having him in my coven

 

[1137]

The Lucifer/Satan connection is definitely almost only a satanist thing. You don't see it from our side nearly as much. What's the point of satanism if you want to dress it up in light, anyways? Sucks the fun right out.

 

[crossfire]

The Lucifer/Satan connection is definitely almost only a satanist thing. You don't see it from our side nearly as much. What's the point of satanism if you want to dress it up in light, anyways? Sucks the fun right out.

I suspect that within Satanism, the non-theistic Satanists might be giving the theistic Satanists a hard time, and the theistic Satanists are looking for a new home in Luciferianism. I could be wrong, however.

 

[LuciferJane]

Agnostic, I view Lucifer as a angel of Freedom. You see, I used to be a devout christian, and all it ever did for me, was to create misery. I was a zealot, of sorts, so when the fabric of the christian fate, tore asunder, I became wery angry, wich is ironic, as I first labeled myself as an atheist. But I realized I had Complete hatred towards the christian fate, and a sence that the Whole Abrahamittic set offaiths were malign. During this fase, I thougt of myself as a Satanist, then I became more calm, and I felt a leaning more to the lightbringer aspect of Lucifer. So my transition goes:

Christian- Ateistic - Satanist- Luciferian- Agnostic.

On my angry days, I'm a Satanist. On chill days, which are most days, I'm a Luciferian. This is my current experience, active reality tunnel...

 

[DemonSparklez]

I see I'm three years late, but better late than never. Non-dimensional theistic non-worshiping pagan theistic luciferian here.
With incorporation of several pagan religions and a constant feed of learning new things,

I have a severe fondness of the goddess Lilith and the light and love she represents. She is my friend.

I am a descendant of Ishtar. WOMAN POWER!

Yay! Who wants a cookie? : 3

 

[ThirtyThree]

I am a Theist.

Whoever this Lucifer is, what ever His history, He is the guiding Light in my life. I learn from Him things few would expect to learn from a being most label "The Devil".

That is why I no longer define Lucifer from any historical source, since most likely those sources have a terribly bias representation of Him, at least that works make sense considering my experiences with Him.

I let Lucifer define Lucifer, by His communication and actions.

 

[EverChanging]

Having read the overview of Luciferianism I identify with its tenets, though I have not used those terms to describe myself and personally have not read a great deal on Luciferianism. I will explain, and leave the labels to others to decide.

I do not equate Lucifer with Satan or Samael. Nor do I believe that deities exist in the theistic sense. I approach them as facets of human psychology and culture and sometimes personifications of natural forces.

Thus I do not approach myths literally. When I am drawn to a deity I will find a way to relate to those concepts in a form workable within the religious system I am already enmeshed in.

Having been drawn to Prometheus, I venerate Judas Iscariot as the light bringer. In my version of events he betrayed Jesus to liberate Christ's light. I also am tending to think of him as the serpent in the garden. When Jesus descended to hades he first greeted his friend Judas and Judas became something akin to a bhodisatva and shines on all those seeking liberation and knowledge of themselves.

So I do work with concepts involved with Lucifer, but in a context fitting to me. I relate more to a naturalistic pantheistic view with a non-literal view of ritual and myth, but I am metaphysically in agreement with atheism. I am also influenced by some Zen and Secular Buddhist notions.

I do not view Jesus or God as tyrants because I am not a theist: I can re-imagine them any way I like. I do relate to many Luciferian concepts -- but on my own terms within my own context.

 

[VioletVortex]

I voted "other". I came across the term "transtheism" here, which refers to a belief which transcends the definitions of theism, deism, and atheism. I think that Lucifer is an all-encompassing name for a force that goes by many names-Odin/Wotan, Satan, Set, Ea, and þorr to name a select few.

 

[Miles]

Luciferianism is more a philosophy to me than a religion. I'm still formulating my thoughts on who or what Lucifer is, but I do think he's a fallen angel who rebelled against YWHW and was kicked out of Heaven for that reason, before becoming ruler of his own dimension called Hell.

I don't think he's a symbol of evil. He's a rebel who broke the rules and accepted his punishment. He's a lightbringer, a liberator, someone who demanded better, someone who says it's okay to mess up but you have to make amends through your own means, someone who encourages us to question social norms and authority, someone who gives hope to the disenfranchised, someone who believes it's okay to love yourself and live life to the fullest and be flawed and be beautiful.

People and deities who embody those values are what I believe to be Luciferian figures, and I strive to be like them. That's the philosophy I follow.

Now, if you've seen my profile, you'll notice that my religion is Luciferian Christopaganism.

After leaving Christianity at sixteen I found paganism and eventually began...maybe not worshipping, I dislike that word, but venerating other gods. For me that mainly means Persephone and Aphrodite, both of whom I believe to be light-bearers and Lucifer figures.

I also venerate several Abrahamic figures, including Mary Magdalene, Jesus, and Esther, and believe that they are Lucifer figures as well - though, unlike traditional Christians, I don't believe Jesus was the Son of God but was instead a prophet. I believe that YHWH, the Holy Spirit, is a conscious force connecting everything and everyone. So if anyone was wondering how my religion works, there's your answer.

 

[EtuMalku]

Luciferianism is more a philosophy to me than a religion. I'm still formulating my thoughts on who or what Lucifer is, but I do think he's a fallen angel who rebelled against YWHW and was kicked out of Heaven for that reason, before becoming ruler of his own dimension called Hell.

I don't think he's a symbol of evil. He's a rebel who broke the rules and accepted his punishment. He's a lightbringer, a liberator, someone who demanded better, someone who says it's okay to mess up but you have to make amends through your own means, someone who encourages us to question social norms and authority, someone who gives hope to the disenfranchised, someone who believes it's okay to love yourself and live life to the fullest and be flawed and be beautiful.

What gives you these ideas?

 

[Miles]

What gives you these ideas?

Contemplation and reading, mostly. And listening to other people with similar spiritual paths to what I was interested in.

 

[Morningstar1312]

Lucifer is as real as you or I. He is the one and all, the horned god, the snake of Eden, the light bringer, the fallen angel. He is manifold, appearing with many names and many faces. He is freedom, he is knowledge, he is love. Unlike the tyrant Yahweh, that loathsome demiurge, Lucifer acknowledges that it’s ok to be imperfect, that he loves you regardless.

Ave Luciferi!

 

[EtuMalku]

“The actual name, “Lucifer,” goes back to the Greeks, before the Romans. Socrates and Plato talk about this “god of light”; surprisingly, not in the context of Eos (god of Dawn), but ‑‑ as a morning star ‑‑ juxtaposed with the sun (Helios) and Hermes. This information can be found in Plato’s Timaeus (38e) and in Edith Hamilton’s Mythology.”
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The Polytheism Of The Bible And The Mystery Of Lucifer by F.T. DeAngelis

A Brief History of the Morningstar

 

[VoidCat]

Polytheistic

 

[Balthazzar]

I am Non Theistic. I believe all gods, devils, angels, demons, and non-corporeal entities are archetypal structures within our Unconsciousness, brought to our consciousness by way of Symbolism. Lucifer to me and my Order is a Memetic Principle of Compassion for Life and Creation, the Light born in the Womb of Darkness . . . defiance of corrupt authority and the Current of Spiritual Evolution.

I won't profess to be a Luciferian, but I understand the way well enough to honor it. I would be more theistic than not, but only because I see divinity in all. From darkness came the light, and from light the darkness returns - In reference to cyclic patterns of life, birth, and death. I can claim non theistic as honestly as theistic, but then all is God or it isn't, which is basically the foundation of my path - pan-en-theism. - All that was, all that is, and all that will ever be = God

 

[Balthazzar]

Oh I quite agree, and I identify as agnostic as well. Although my agnostic Luciferianism allows for 'belief' and faith in this belief. Allow me to explain;

Without going into detail, I have the belief that we are lower self with the ability to raise our conscious awareness to our higher Self. That there exists a perfected, non-dualistic singularity of Us to which we know as god. We are this individual god.

That said, my agnostic mind agrees that I do not have evidence of this except through my limited experiences and knowledge leading to this paradigm.

Mental universe? I've read that some see All as being mind. I know we experience life through the mind and each us add to the whole of our experiences while living - A collective conscious paradigm in play seems accurate. I agree that we are God, yet I likewise see the non-dualistic reality of being less than God also ... Much like drops of water of the ocean being the ocean, yet being much less than the ocean also.

Is this similar to your stance?

 

[crossfire]

Mental universe? I've read that some see All as being mind. I know we experience life through the mind and each us add to the whole of our experiences while living - A collective conscious paradigm in play seems accurate. I agree that we are God, yet I likewise see the non-dualistic reality of being less than God also ... Much like drops of water of the ocean being the ocean, yet being much less than the ocean also.

Is this similar to your stance?

I think Etu might have been banned. I know him well enough from being in his Luciferian order for seven years to understand his stance: he wants to separate his subjective mind from the objective universe.

 

[Balthazzar]

I think Etu might have been banned. I know him well enough from being in his Lufierian order for seven years to understand his stance: he wants to separate his subjective mind from the objective universe.

Ok, well ... I guess this discussion is off limits. Isn't logic, reason, and individualism foundational for Luciferianians? I'm not sure how that type of separation is even possible when those three are taken into account. Religion is personal anyway, but then so is everything else.