What makes something worthy of worship?

[Riverwolf]

I'm asking personal thoughts on it. I granted it's subjective, but I want an explanation on what one person's rubric to worship is... ie "he has x and doesn't have y" and thus is worth worship.

I still don't quite follow you. Are you talking about worship for personal gain?

 

[javajo]

Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to recieve glory, power, blessing and honor.

 

[Atomist]

I still don't quite follow you. Are you talking about worship for personal gain?

I'm talking about what traits do a person need to find in agent x in order for agent x to be worthy of worship.

So in the format god is worthy of worship because [trait] and [trait] and lacks [trait] and [trait]

 

[Kerr]

What traits/actions/qualities does an agent have to have for one to worship such an agent? Is there any thing that such an agent could have that is worth worship instead of just great praise.

He should always present himself in this fashion.
"Bond.
James Bond."

Jokes aside, I am not sure if I could worship. But if I could it would have to be a compassionate "agent" who is fair, just, constructive (i.e. that he/she does not go around and destroy everything but is rather a positive and constructive force) and wouldn´t send people to hell.

 

[Madhuri]

I don't see something is valued by me or represents something meaningful leads to worship...

It doesn't have to lead to worship. The desire to worship is an individual thing.

 

[McBell]

Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to recieve glory, power, blessing and honor.

Yes, like sheep to the slaughter....

 

[Riverwolf]

I'm talking about what traits do a person need to find in agent x in order for agent x to be worthy of worship.

...how is "it depends on the person" not answering your question?

So in the format god is worthy of worship because [trait] and [trait] and lacks [trait] and [trait]

...that makes absolutely no sense.

 

[javajo]

Yes, like sheep to the slaughter....

Exactly.

 

[Atomist]

...how is "it depends on the person" not answering your question?



...that makes absolutely no sense.

I'm asking with respect to you what traits does god have and not have that makes him worthy of worship.

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

What traits/actions/qualities does an agent have to have for one to worship such an agent? Is there any thing that such an agent could have that is worth worship instead of just great praise.

The only correct answer to this question is breasts.

 

[bowingtoGod]

I remember something the Prophet Muhammad (saws) said when a sahabi (companion of his) found him praying extra prayers. The companion said, "Oh Prophet of Allah, why do you offer so many extra prayers when your past sins, current sins, and future sins have all been forgiven?" and Muhammad (saws) said, "Should I not be a grateful servant?"
When you believe that a being that is limitless in power and knowledge, created this world and you and did all these things for you, I think He deserves worship.

 

[javajo]

I remember something the Prophet Muhammad (saws) said when a sahabi (companion of his) found him praying extra prayers. The companion said, "Oh Prophet of Allah, why do you offer so many extra prayers when your past sins, current sins, and future sins have all been forgiven?" and Muhammad (saws) said, "Should I not be a grateful servant?"
When you believe that a being that is limitless in power and knowledge, created this world and you and did all these things for you, I think He deserves worship.

That''s good, I like that. As a Christian I worship because God forgave all my sins, past, present and future, too. (Not that there are no consequences to sins). Of course, as a Christian I believe Jesus paid the penalty for my sins by dying on the cross. (the wages of sin is death). This once for all sacrifice paid for all the sins of all ppl in all the world once and for all time. So, I thank, worship, praise and adore him for loving me that much. We say Worthy is the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.

 

[bowingtoGod]

That''s good, I like that. As a Christian I worship because God forgave all my sins, past, present and future, too. (Not that there are no consequences to sins). Of course, as a Christian I believe Jesus paid the penalty for my sins by dying on the cross. (the wages of sin is death). This once for all sacrifice paid for all the sins of all ppl in all the world once and for all time. So, I thank, worship, praise and adore him for loving me that much. We say Worthy is the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.

That is nice

 

[Riverwolf]

I'm asking with respect to you what traits does god have and not have that makes him worthy of worship.

Different God-concepts have different traits.

Therefore, I can't answer that with absolute accuracy.

 

[Atomist]

Sorry for bump but I just thought of this question again

That''s good, I like that. As a Christian I worship because God forgave all my sins, past, present and future, too. (Not that there are no consequences to sins). Of course, as a Christian I believe Jesus paid the penalty for my sins by dying on the cross. (the wages of sin is death). This once for all sacrifice paid for all the sins of all ppl in all the world once and for all time. So, I thank, worship, praise and adore him for loving me that much. We say Worthy is the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.

But here's the thing... even if I grant sins etc are not arbitrarily made up by your god (if he exists) just to forgive you. I don't follow the reasoning where just because God forgave all your sins (for sake of argument, legitimate) because you believe in him and jesus died for your sins that it's worthy of worship. Maybe some praise... maybe like thank you. But worship?

I mean would you worship your parents if they forgave you for destroyed a car, and then your parents paid for the cost of the damage?

Different God-concepts have different traits.

Therefore, I can't answer that with absolute accuracy.

... no no... you're missing the point. what traits makes something worthy of worship. There has to be a sufficient condition... IE if deity has traits X then he's worthy of worship if he does not have traits X he's not...

 

[Erebus]

... no no... you're missing the point. what traits makes something worthy of worship. There has to be a sufficient condition... IE if deity has traits X then he's worthy of worship if he does not have traits X he's not...

You're thinking far too clinically about this. Humans don't respond automatically and predictably to a set criteria, you may aswell be asking "what single attribute in a person will make you fall in love with them." It's simply not that clear cut.

 

[blueman]

If said agent in eternal, holy, righteous, all powerful, all knowing, omnipresent and has a unlimited capacity to love, that would be worthy of worship and praise.

 

[jtartar]

What traits/actions/qualities does an agent have to have for one to worship such an agent? Is there any thing that such an agent could have that is worth worship instead of just great praise.

Atomist,
There is only ONE person in the universe who should be worshiped, in fact this one insists on exclusive worship, Ex 20:4,5, 34:14. When Jesus was on earth he said the same, John 17:3. Paul said the same, 1Cor 8:4-6.
The reasons He should be worshiped are too numerous to recount. Here are a few.
He is the ONLY GOD in existence!!! All others called gods are NONEXISTENT, imagination, Ps 115:1-8. Even the memory of false god's names will be annihilated along with all who worship nonexistent gods, Jere 10:10,11,14,15.
This God whose Personal Name is Jehovah, is the very source of all life, Ps 36:9.
He created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them, Ps 8:3-9, 19:1, 24:1, 104:24,25, Isa 45:18.
Not only did Jehovah God create the earth and all that is in it, but He loved mankind so much that He sent His ONLYBEGOTTEN SON to earth to give his life for all mankind who would demonstrate faith in his Great Ransom Sacrifice, John 3:16,16, Gal 2:16, Acts 13:38,39, Ron 5:5-11.
This God has also promised to make a paradise out of this earth, with perfect people living forever, with unending happiness and fruitful work and unending enteresting endevors to spend our time, and praising our God, who is not only Allpowerful, but also Merciful, Kind, generous, longsuffering, each of these qualities being absolute.
Wo else but Jehovah God would anyone who really knows Him, want to worship???

 

[Atomist]

You're thinking far too clinically about this. Humans don't respond automatically and predictably to a set criteria, you may aswell be asking "what single attribute in a person will make you fall in love with them." It's simply not that clear cut.

But I'm not saying what single attribute... and besides I don't see how it's relevant because worship seems like a conscious behavior whereas love is a feeling that one has... unless I'm missing something

 

[Atomist]

This God has also promised to make a paradise out of this earth, with perfect people living forever, with unending happiness and fruitful work and unending enteresting endevors to spend our time, and praising our God, who is not only Allpowerful, but also Merciful, Kind, generous, longsuffering, each of these qualities being absolute.
Wo else but Jehovah God would anyone who really knows Him, want to worship???

Would you worship your parents if they offered to pay for everything for the rest of your life and let you do whatever you want and bail you out if you do illegal stuff/destroy stuff.

If said agent in eternal, holy, righteous, all powerful, all knowing, omnipresent and has a unlimited capacity to love, that would be worthy of worship and praise.

To both: Explain why that's worthy of worship... it seems like a complete non-sequitur to me.

So your saying since god is powerful and eternal, holy, righteous and all loving (seemingly by fiat as far as I can tell) he deserves worship or praise? Even if he has those traits I don't get why he gets worship because he has those traits.

I suppose you mean because of his actions because he has those traits... which makes me wonder what does someone have to do to get you to worship him.