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What Makes Us Human?

BucephalusBB

ABACABB
What is it about humanity that separates us from all other animal species?

Religion, but that's just a guess.
The internet, or at least the knowledge to use it.
Value of time, as in collecting history for example.
The need for psychiatrists.
Mac Donalds.


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AlsoAnima

Friend
What is it about humanity that separates us from all other animal species?
The presence on an independant soul.
BONUS QUESTION: If your response uses the word soul, spirit, Fnord, or so forth, what are the effects of having this thing, which an individual without this thing would not be able to achieve?
Conciousness. The human mind can work the way it does because the soul exists. Other animals do not have souls and thus have limited mental expansion (and no possbility for spiritual expansion). A human who did not possess a soul would be unable to think in complex ways. They would be completely oblivious to abstract notions and physical realities with which they are not intimately involved.

Musings: If a human were to somehow aquire the soul of a different being, say an angel or demon or what have you, that also has an independant soul (if not a body) and replace their own with it the effect would interesting to observe.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Our particular genetic heritage.

Most of the rest of what we think makes us unique... really doesn't.
Other species have art, language, war, ecological engineering, signs of spirituality and so on.

wa:do
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
What is it about humanity that separates us from all other animal species?

BONUS QUESTION: If your response uses the word soul, spirit, Fnord, or so forth, what are the effects of having this thing, which an individual without this thing would not be able to achieve?

The difference is the superiority complex and the tendency to do redundant things which we pretend are "important."
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
The difference is the superiority complex and the tendency to do redundant things which we pretend are "important."

You know, now that I think of it, my Baggins is a lot like a human in those regards. Baggins knows he's better than the other dogs. He's the dominant male of our dog pack. He also barks at the bunny in order to impress me; he thinks that is important, but it really isn't. I suppose the only difference is that we are of different species.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Complex communication with many mutually understood symbols, yes. But language enables discussion, communication of futurity and past, hypotheticals, &al.
 

Rough_ER

Member
Complex communication with many mutually understood symbols, yes. But language enables discussion, communication of futurity and past, hypotheticals, &al.

I see what you mean. It's certainly true that we are yet to observe another creature using language in the same was as us in their natural habitat. However... from all the research performed with Panzee and Panbanisha, it would be pretty silly to suggest that no other animal has at least the capacity to learn language, given the right aids and encouragement.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Dolphins use syntax, individual names and other hallmarks of true language. They can pass down information from one generation to the next.... who knows what other things they 'talk' about.

Elephants also have very complex communication... mostly unstudied due to the fact that it is mostly infra-sound and we can't hear it.

Even ape communication is turning out to be more complex than we had thought.

wa:do
 

DarkSun

:eltiT
What is it about humanity that separates us from all other animal species?

BONUS QUESTION: If your response uses the word soul, spirit, Fnord, or so forth, what are the effects of having this thing, which an individual without this thing would not be able to achieve?

A quote from I, Robot comes to mind here.

There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior? Random segments of code? Or is it something more? When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth? When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul?


The defining characteristics of humanity are self-awareness, the ability to feel emotion and posses a sense of morality. Without these we would be inhuman.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
What about animals with the same capacity?
Lots of animals are self-aware, feel emotion and possess a sense of morality.

wa:do
 

DarkSun

:eltiT
What about animals with the same capacity?
Lots of animals are self-aware, feel emotion and possess a sense of morality.

wa:do

Is it to the same extent as with humans?

EDIT:

I don't mean to sound as if I think humans are superior to animals. I don't. In a lot of ways, they can be superior. But I do think we have a higher state of consciousness, if you will. And that's not necessarily a good thing, by the way.
 
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