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What practical advice might you give to people regarding coronavirus?

Skwim

Veteran Member
a bottle of cheap vodka may help too. but try to have 70 % of alc. it much more safer.



"Ethanol should never be used to disinfect hands since ethanol can dry the skin. Alcohol-based hand-rubs, alcohol mixed with emollients, are recommended for the decontamination of lightly soiled hands in situations where proper hand-washing is inconvenient or not possible.

And, ethanol is ineffective against spores, HBV, Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB) and may not kill all types of non-lipid-containing viruses."
source

Isopropyl alcohol, is a far better choice.

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leov

Well-Known Member
"Ethanol should never be used to disinfect hands since ethanol can dry the skin. Alcohol-based hand-rubs, alcohol mixed with emollients, are recommended for the decontamination of lightly soiled hands in situations where proper hand-washing is inconvenient or not possible.

And, ethanol is ineffective against spores, HBV, Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB) and may not kill all types of non-lipid-containing viruses."
source

Isopropyl alcohol, is a far better choice.

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i read of many cases that vodka was used by russian medics during WW2 , just because that what they had, if i have to use it i would do it if i do not have anything stronger, i used vodka on my cuts and never had a problem...
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
i read of many cases that vodka was used by russian medics during WW2 , just because that what they had, if i have to use it i would do it if i do not have anything stronger, i used vodka on my cuts and never had a problem...
Good for you, but under present circumstances I wouldn't rely on it if I were you as long as there are better options.

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dfnj

Well-Known Member
Given that stores are often out of many supplies what might you do?

I see many hand soaps are out but there are antibacterial soaps that are around. Dial sells antibacterial soap and labeled such.

Even dollar stores might be out of hand soap but have hand acne soap in another section.

You can make your own hand sanitizer and there are recipes on line.

There are diets that promote better immunity. Eat less sugar and more citrus, tart cherry, ginger to name a few

and Hope in God!

When my kids were in daycare both my wife and I got sick every week. I started taking a gram of vitamin C everyday, 500mg in the morning, 500mg at night, and I stop getting ill. My wife kept getting sick. Costco has a huge bottle of 1000 mg vitamin C at a good price.

If the virus is transmitted through the air and you breath it in then washing your hands isn't going to help. It's very hard to avoid the common cold. My tactic in prepping for the coronavirus was to have lots of medicines for dealing with sinus and chest colds. I've had bad chest cold before so I have lots of Musinex and Sudafed. I figure if I get any sniffles at all I want my sinus passages to be as dry as possible so the virus has less place to grow. Also, I think the coronavirus spreads to your chest. So I want to delay it from spreading if I get it.

Also in the past when I've had bad chest colds I've use eucalyptus oil and peppermint oil to clear my lungs. I boil water in a pot. Put a few drops of each in. Lower my head over the pot and cover my head with towel. The eucalyptus oil instantly opens your lungs up and allows you to breath easier. I also bought some Breath Easy tea which has eucalyptus in it.

If I get any symptoms at all I'm only not going to wait before taking over the counter medicines. You can google "natural cures for pneumonia" there's a bunch of other ones. Turmeric tea is supposed to be good for fighting virus but I have no experience with it.

https://facty.com/conditions/pneumonia/10-home-remedies-for-pneumonia/

The best thing is probably stay away from as many people as possible. Until we have adequate testing avoiding the virus is a crap shoot!
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Good for you, but under present circumstances I wouldn't rely on it if I were you as long as there are better options.

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i agree, if one has
better options, as i mentioned, i visited a few sores in our small town, shelves were empty , so, i would rather use vodka than nothing.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Stay at home.
If you have to go out, do social distancing. After touching anything, keep your hands away from your face. Wash your hands a ton when you arrive home.
Shoes out, before entering the house, you don't want to bring this troublemaker into your house (Corona can stay for like 5 days on any surface).

Wash your cloth, take them off first;). Take a nice hot shower. 56 degrees kills Corona, but might damage you in the process, so don't do that. I tried putting my fingers in a cup of 56 degrees Celsius water; could last only for 5 sec, except my thumbs, they could handle the 56, the other fingers could maximum take 49 degrees:(

When visitors come, tell them to take their shoes off. Then their cloth too:eek:, all due to corona of course:), explain that very clearly;) . Soon no more visitors will come, and you are safe, all by yourself, Corona OUT.

What a troublemaker this Corona. I hate washing my hands all the time, so I just stay in my house.

Even the neighbor's cat has taken precautions and keeps 1.5 meter distance from me now (God Bless this smart cat)
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Shoes out, before entering the house, you don't want to bring this troublemaker into your house (Corona can stay for like 5 days on any surface).

Wash your cloth, take them off first;). Take a nice hot shower. 56 degrees kills Corona, but might damage you in the process, so don't do that. I tried putting my fingers in a cup of 56 degrees Celsius water; could last only for 5 sec, except my thumbs, they could handle the 56, the other fingers could maximum take 49 degrees:(

When visitors come, tell them to take their shoes off. Then their cloth too:eek:, all due to corona of course:), explain that very clearly;) . Soon no more visitors will come, and you are safe, all by yourself, Corona OUT.

What a troublemaker this Corona. I hate washing my hands all the time, so I just stay in my house.

Even the neighbor's cat has taken precautions and keeps 1.5 meter distance from me now (God Bless this smart cat)
Visitors? Why?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Yes, that is the point, no more visiting each other is the best.
In the last week I've been out of the house 3 times. This morning for groceries, and twice before to do with flowers, picking up, and dropping off. Going for an exercise walk, in my view, doesn't count.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
In the last week I've been out of the house 3 times. This morning for groceries, and twice before to do with flowers, picking up, and dropping off. Going for an exercise walk, in my view, doesn't count.
I stayed also inside these last few days, although we have no lock down (yet), but having fragile health, this seemed the smart thing to do for me.
I don't have a mask yet. You walk around with a mask, when doing shopping, flowers, walking? Do you live in a big city?
I think going for a walk won't be a problem, definitely not (yet) where I live. Very few people here.

But when this Dutch woman, living in Italy, send me a video message, to be very careful
Because in Italy they drop dead all over, I thought ... I stay inside, and wait and see
Until there is some more coherent information available

I have no problem to stay inside, normally I stay inside a lot anyway
And I have no hand sanitisers, masks and stuff
Staying inside, I don't need those
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
An update on hydrogen peroxide as hand sanitizer:

I've read a bunch I'd articles saying that hydrogen peroxide is effective against Covid-19 when used on surfaces, particularly hard surfaces, but I haven't been able to find anything specifically recommenimg it as a hand sanitizer.

One thing I did find out us that it takes 3 to 6 minutes to kill the virus, so if you're using it, take that into account.[/QUOTE]
An update on hydrogen peroxide as hand sanitizer:

I've read a bunch I'd articles saying that hydrogen peroxide is effective against Covid-19 when used on surfaces, particularly hard surfaces, but I haven't been able to find anything specifically recommenimg it as a hand sanitizer.

One thing I did find out us that it takes 3 to 6 minutes to kill the virus, so if you're using it, take that into account.

Would appreciate it if someone could research this a bit more for me.

I won't have a lot of online time today.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I stayed also inside these last few days, although we have no lock down (yet), but having fragile health, this seemed the smart thing to do for me.
I don't have a mask yet. You walk around with a mask, when doing shopping, flowers, walking? Do you live in a big city?
I think going for a walk won't be a problem, definitely not (yet) where I live. Very few people here.

But when this Dutch woman, living in Italy, send me a video message, to be very careful
Because in Italy they drop dead all over, I thought ... I stay inside, and wait and see
Until there is some more coherent information available

I have no problem to stay inside, normally I stay inside a lot anyway
And I have no hand sanitisers, masks and stuff
Staying inside, I don't need those

I don't use a mask. There is debate on their effectiveness. You can tell which side I'm on. One of the smartest things I heard the other day was on our national radio, by our former astronaut. "The very first thing to do is to get your facts straight."

For me, it's another natural part of this spinning universe. And since each lifetime is but a second in time in the larger scheme, it's sort of 'What crisis?" Fear of death, fear of the unknown drives mass consciousness.

Still, best wishes.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
One of the smartest things I heard the other day was on our national radio, by our former astronaut. "The very first thing to do is to get your facts straight."
I really like this 1. If Astronaut has his facts not straight, he never gets home again.

For me, it's another natural part of this spinning universe. And since each lifetime is but a second in time in the larger scheme, it's sort of 'What crisis?" Fear of death, fear of the unknown drives mass consciousness
Yes. I just wrote down "Corona might be the natural thing to balance certain things". I don't have fear of death, but I have still fear of pain (I am not a masochist, and if possible try to avoid pain). I would choose starving myself to death if the alternative was some extra time with excruciating pain.

Still, best wishes.
I understand your feeling about "best wishes". Hence, I prefer the "Namaste" greeting (best reminder ever IMO)
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I don't use a mask. There is debate on their effectiveness
I read a doctor explaining that only ffp2 and ffp3 are useful (ffp3 the better one). But mostly because you can't touch your mouth and nose. And of course if someone spits in your face (or coughs), hence the 1.5m distance. So, when standing in a queue at a supermarket it might be helpful.

Masks are out of stock, so I thought, maybe I could use a swimming mask with snorkel instead (and keep the snorkel "air in" well covered or even with air-tank). But not sure if that is efficient (at least if someone is coughing in my face I am protected).

Here in Holland some make masks from vacuum cleaner bags. Maybe they got the idea, because one brand is called "Corona vacuum cleaner bags". People are getting creative. Probably better than nothing, but this doctor said that the virus is very small, just 1 micrometer, so most masks won't work

And virus can also enter through eyes, so a mask for only mouth and nose seems a bit strange I think. It's all very new, lots to discover.
 
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