What Racial or Ethnic Group are you?

[Aupmanyav]

Aryan (Kashmiri brahmin), if the genealogies are correct, and with possibilities of indigenous Indian mix.

 

[Jumi]

Finno-Ugric. There's about 26 million of us.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Strange how when one Googles "ethnicity list," both African and American are on there. So is African American.

I guess you didn't write that one, huh?

I have no idea the context of what you are talking about unless you link me. There are African ethnicities and American ethnicities. I would have to see what you're referring to in order to be able to fully understand what you're talking about.

Yes, "African-American" basically means the same thing as "black' in the US, meaning people who are descended from slaves (who hailed from West African peoples).

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

To answer the OP, my mother was European-American and my father was African-American. So mixed black and white. My mom's ancestry was Germanic and Celtic, AFAIK. My dad was just black and his family is from New Orleans, so it's the same as most black people in America; we're descended from slaves and don't know any more than that. (There's probably Native American ancestry but who cares since pretty much every American whose family has been here long enough is mixed up.)

I won't go into detail but mixed black and white people do have different experiences from those with "mono-racial" heritage. We're often outcast from both sides. There's a stereotype of "too white for black people, and too black for white people". I've been subject to racism from both blacks and whites. I don't see the point of trying to fit in with either "side". I identify as mixed. I was raised by my white mother and other white people so it doesn't make sense to say I'm black when black people know right away that I'm not "one of them" but I'm not accepted as white, so why deny either part of my heritage.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Irish aren't Irish by blood. The Celts replaced an indigenous people there.

I'm not entirely surprised that the Irish weren't the first humans to settle the land now called Ireland, but Irishness is also by blood since the Irish diaspora has traveled throughout the world and mated leaving their DNA markers all over the place as well as their culture.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I had a friend who is Philippine. Her father is military both sides Philippine. Her nationality or where she was born and raised is in America. (We have a lot of people from thousands of countries here), yet, her ethnicity is Philippine and she identifies with her ethnicity.

She is an American citizen and she refers to her ethnicity as Philippine.

How does this relate to me? I have no singular ancestry as such.

Unless you are Native American, there is no one ethnicity in the US.

I respectfully disagree, as does another poster, but for a different reason...

In America, never, because it's not an ethnicity.

Those of us who have no known roots and identify as American do so by culture not ethnicity.

Please read the definition of 'ethnicity' provided in the OP.

Unless you are Native American, historically, America has no ethnicity. It's just a nationality title.

Again, we are in disagreement, and again, another disagrees, but for a different reason...

Whatever their people called themselves before Europeans came over. Their tribal names and ethnic groups don't change just because white men decided to create a country on what was formally their land. Americans aren't Americans by blood. We're Americans by citizenship.

Salix

This is ethnicity: the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.

We don't have a "common" nationality because there are so many people of different nationalities, the only way you are "culturally"
American is if you are born And raised here.

I have no common nationality or cultural tradition with any culture other than Americans? Does this mean I don't get to have an ethnicity?

We have many ethnicities here, many languages, and many cultures. What makes one an american is if they are Native to America. Not an ethnicity but strict nationality.

Now you're just contradicting yourself. Just in your previous post, you said...

Unless you are Native American, there is no one ethnicity in the US.

So which is it?

Now. If you said you are African American, Asian American, Indian American, you are referring to a persons ethnicity in relation to their nationality either by citizenship or as a native here.

When you say "I'm American" you are saying you are 1. Have a citizenship here 2. And/or born and raised as a native here.

As for ethnicity, it depends on the persons cultural background not where they live on the map.

Again, I have no cultural background outside of America. Does that, again, mean I have no ethnicity?

Your ethnicity can be Chinese but your nationality is American. You are considered American by where you hold citizenship or native born here, but your race and ethnicity is Chinese not American.

Again, I have no singular ancestry as such.

The only people who can call American their ethnicity are Native Americans. The rest of us our earliest family where nor from America.

But you just said...

We have many ethnicities here, many languages, and many cultures. What makes one an american is if they are Native to America. Not an ethnicity but strict nationality.

Someone created a thread here recently about circular debate. You should read it.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I have no idea the context of what you are talking about unless you link me.

Don't know how to Google, eh? I can help...

ethnicities list

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You don't know how to Google? I can help...

ethnicities list

I know how to Google and I don't appreciate your snarkiness, to be honest. That list is not a technical one and is just a random search engine result.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I know how to Google and I don't appreciate your snarkiness, to be honest. That list is not a technical one and is just a random search engine result.

Aww, c'mon. Where's your sense of humor?

We can go round and round here. The point is, there are those other than me that do consider American an ethnicity. But belaboring the argument of whether or not it is officially considered an ethnicity is moot considering the point I was making in my original post had you bothered to read past the first two lines before you made the choice to try to take me to school...

Ethnicity: American
Race: Human

I see no use in being more specific than that.

My ex is big on genealogy. In fact I still have an Ancestrydotcom box I received as a gift from "my daughter" sitting unopened in my closet. I never really understood the need for people to know what their genealogy is. I mean, if I found out that I have a Scandanavian ancestry, should I start writing in runor?

I was exemplifying my own personal preference to not identify by anything other than American because I did not see the use in doing so.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Aww, c'mon. Where's your sense of humor?

We can go round and round here. The point is, there are those other than me that do consider American an ethnicity. But belaboring the argument of whether or not it is officially considered an ethnicity is moot considering the point I was making in my original post had you bothered to read past the first two lines before you made the choice to try to take me to school...


I was exemplifying my own personal preference to not identify by anything other than American because I did not see the use in doing so.

I did read the whole post there, so I do realize that we will never agree.

 

[Augustus]

Irish aren't Irish by blood. The Celts replaced an indigenous people there.

Irish DNA shows groups from the Basque Country, Brittany (Celtic), various groups present in Britain, Viking and Eastern European steppes reflecting different periods of migration.

While there may have been a wave of Celtic migration, they didn't replace an indigenous population, that's just a myth like the one about Anglo-Saxons killing off the ancient Britons. Modern archaeological and DNA analysis makes these myth untenable.

There is a whole class of legend regarding the Saxons brutally slaying Britons left right and centre, yet there is no archaeological record that would support such an event happening despite countless searches.

Populations tend not to be wiped out but they intermingle and become culturally homogenised by the dominant culture.

This is how we see people of the Eastern Med variously classified as Turks, Arabs, (Semitic) Jews or (white) Europeans depending on the dominant culture of where they live, despite all being genetically very similar. Much of what we see today as ethnicity is based on cultural and linguistic groupings and/or modern political geography.

 

[Jainarayan]

a bit of Neandertha

Modern humans of Asian and European descent have about 2-4% Neanderthal DNA. Mine is 2.79% Modern humans of Sub-Sahara African descent have pretty much no Neanderthal. The reason is simple... Neanderthals did not live in Sub-Sahara Africa and interbreed with modern humans there as they did in Europe and Asia.

 

[Cooky]

there are those other than me that do consider American an ethnicity.

...But it can't be proven with a DNA test.

 

[Cooky]

Modern humans of Asian and European descent have about 2-4% Neanderthal DNA. Mine is 2.79% Modern humans of Sub-Sahara African descent have pretty much no Neanderthal. The reason is simple... Neanderthals did not live in Sub-Sahara Africa and interbreed with modern humans there as they did in Europe and Asia.

Neanderthals must have been great people.

 

[Jainarayan]

Neanderthals must have been great people.

We don't give them the credit they probably deserve. They were not hairy, knuckle-dragging, mindless brutes. In fact, if we dress one up in today's clothing, except for a few "can't put my finger on it" differences, they could probably pass as one of us. Eerily, I know someone who closely resembles the male here.

Reconstructed images:

 

[Curious George]

Irish DNA shows groups from the Basque Country, Brittany (Celtic), various groups present in Britain, Viking and Eastern European steppes reflecting different periods of migration.

While there may have been a wave of Celtic migration, they didn't replace an indigenous population, that's just a myth like the one about Anglo-Saxons killing off the ancient Britons. Modern archaeological and DNA analysis makes these myth untenable.

There is a whole class of legend regarding the Saxons brutally slaying Britons left right and centre, yet there is no archaeological record that would support such an event happening despite countless searches.

Populations tend not to be wiped out but they intermingle and become culturally homogenised by the dominant culture.

This is how we see people of the Eastern Med variously classified as Turks, Arabs, (Semitic) Jews or (white) Europeans depending on the dominant culture of where they live, despite all being genetically very similar. Much of what we see today as ethnicity is based on cultural and linguistic groupings and/or modern political geography.

Yeah, I suppose I am not quote up to date on the latest and greatest of Ireland's history. The point that the indigenous Irish are genetically, culturally, and linguistically distinct from Irish of today is still true.

The point is that it is not so easy to point to a country and declare an ethnicity from that country by "blood."

 

[Augustus]

The point that the indigenous Irish are genetically, culturally, and linguistically distinct from Irish of today is still true.

There never were any indigenous Irish, just various waves of migrants.

The Irish of today reflect all waves, even the earliest.

The point is that it is not so easy to point to a country and declare an ethnicity from that country by "blood."

True dat.

 

[Audie]

I had a friend who is Philippine. Her father is military both sides Philippine. Her nationality or where she was born and raised is in America. (We have a lot of people from thousands of countries here), yet, her ethnicity is Philippine and she identifies with her ethnicity.

She is an American citizen and she refers to her ethnicity as Philippine. Unless you are Native American, there is no one ethnicity in the US. There are many ethnicities and most people are American citizens and that's the only reason why they are American is by citizenship.

Those of us who have no known roots and identify as American do so by culture not ethnicity. Americans have a culture and rightly defend it but if you asked us our race, we would say: African, eureopean, east Asia, west Asia, Russia and so forth.

Unless you are Native American, historically, America has no ethnicity. It's just a nationality title. Whether you identify with American culture depends more on how close you are to your roots if you know them rather than where you live on State.

She probably says "Filipina".

 

[Unveiled Artist]

She probably says "Filipina".

Haha. English. Dont you love it.

We also have Mexico instead of mehico (pronunciation) and hawaii vs Havaii.

 

[Audie]

Haha. English. Dont you love it.

We also have Mexico instead of mehico (pronunciation) and hawaii vs Havaii.

For some reason Americans tend to think it is "Philipino"
but then, maybe the reason is that from France you are
French, not "Prench".

Tho a Filipino with a bit of accent would say it that way!


"Filipina" is pronounced "Pilipina" unless the person is
kinda Americanized and knows we'd say it with a F sound.

Try to get a Filipino to say "Five fluffy puppies"!

Or Japanese to say "Lorita's Curriculum"