What say you? Or rather, what says your scripture?

[Spice]

Today's Delving into the Mysteries took me to Taoism. I made note of The Three Treasures: Compassion, Moderation, Humility.
This of course reminded me of Christianity's 1 Corinthians 13:13's Faith, Hope, Love

Then I thought how enlightening and uplifting to see similarities! Soooo

Let's do some comparisons, NOT to find disagreement, but commonalities.

I'll start with Tao te Ching #16
Empty your mind of all thoughts.
Let your heart be at peace.
Watch the turmoil of beings,
but contemplate their return.

Each separate being in the universe
returns to the common source.
Returning to the source is Serenity.

If you don't realize the source,
you stumble in confusion and sorrow.
When you realize where you come from,
you naturally become tolerant,
disinterested, amused,
kindhearted as a grandmother,
dignified as a king.
Immersed in the wonder of the Tao,
you can deal with whatever life brings you,
and when death comes, you are ready.

Can you find a similar thought from your religion to share?

 

[Aupmanyav]

The Three treasures are the rules of society, they are there in all religions, at least for records' sake.
Compassion, Moderation, Humility. But Gods do not follow it in many religions. They are spiteful and hungry for revenge.

 

[Spice]

Let's do some comparisons, NOT to find disagreement, but commonalities.

I'll start with Tao te Ching #16
Empty your mind of all thoughts.
Let your heart be at peace.

Christian New Testament
John 14:1 “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me."

Watch the turmoil of beings,
but contemplate their return.

Christian New Testament (Prodigal Son)
Luke 15:32 "‘But we had to celebrate and rejoice, for this brother of yours was dead and has begun to live, and was lost and has been found.’”

Can you find a similar thought from your religion to share?

Okay, I've done two more, and it took a bit of thought, but I think I matched some good stuff. It's a good exercise for digging in the memory bank and the scriptures.
Now I know there are people on this site who know their holy text, do let's see some comparables. Do some digging and share.

 

[Aupmanyav]

For Hindus, the simple:
"Paropakaram punyaya, papaya parapeedanam."
Helping others is merit, giving pain to others is sin.

 

[rocala]

Immersed in the wonder of the Tao,
you can deal with whatever life brings you,
and when death comes, you are ready.

Do not let your hearts be troubled, and do not let them be afraid.
John 14.27

May fear and dread not conquer me.
Majjhima Nikaya 6.8

 

[SalixIncendium]

Striving to live a virtuous life of compassion, integrity, non-violence, non-judgment, gratitude, and detachment from material desires mitigates suffering for both oneself and the world, and ultimately leads to a blissful existence.


Bhagavad Gita 16.1-3

​

The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind, steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses, sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness; non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness, restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and absence of vanity.​

​

BG 16.1-3: Chapter 16, Verse 1-3 – Bhagavad Gita, The Song of God – Swami Mukundananda

BG 16.1-3: The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed … Commentary: Here, Shree Krishna describes twenty-six virtues of a saintly nature. These should be cultivated as a part of our spiritual practice for elevating ourselves …

www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org

 

[Spice]

For Hindus, the simple:
"Paropakaram punyaya, papaya parapeedanam."
Helping others is merit, giving pain to others is sin.

I like that. Very straightforward.
It took me two verses to match up in Christianity. I doubt I'd find a match so on the nail.

Christian New Testament
1 Peter 4:8 "Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins."
James 4:17 "So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin."

 

[Spice]

Striving to live a virtuous life of compassion, integrity, non-violence, non-judgment, gratitude, and detachment from material desires mitigates suffering for both oneself and the world, and ultimately leads to a blissful existence.


Bhagavad Gita 16.1-3

​

The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind, steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses, sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness; non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness, restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and absence of vanity.​

​

BG 16.1-3: Chapter 16, Verse 1-3 – Bhagavad Gita, The Song of God – Swami Mukundananda

BG 16.1-3: The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed … Commentary: Here, Shree Krishna describes twenty-six virtues of a saintly nature. These should be cultivated as a part of our spiritual practice for elevating ourselves …

www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org

It's going to take some digging for me to find a match here, but it's an excellent challenge! I really like putting "oneself and the world" together for a "blissful existence."

 

[RestlessSoul]

The Four Noble Truths are accepted by all schools of Buddhism and have been the subject of extensive commentary. They may be summarized as follows. The first truth, suffering (Pali: dukkha; Sanskrit: duhkha), is characteristic of existence in the realm of rebirth, called samsara (literally “wandering”).

The second truth is the origin (Pali and Sanskrit: samudaya) or cause of suffering, which the Buddha associated with craving or attachment in his first sermon.

The third truth is the cessation of suffering (Pali and Sanskrit: nirodha), commonly called nibbana (Sanskrit: nirvana).

The fourth and final truth is the path (Pali: magga; Sanskrit: marga) to the cessation of suffering, which was described by the Buddha in his first sermon.

- Donald s Lopez, writing for Britannica

John 16:33​

“These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”

King James Version (KJV)

 

[rocala]

Striving to live a virtuous life of compassion, integrity, non-violence, non-judgment, gratitude, and detachment from material desires mitigates suffering for both oneself and the world, and ultimately leads to a blissful existence.


Bhagavad Gita 16.1-3

It's going to take some digging for me to find a match here, but it's an excellent challenge! I really like putting "oneself and the world" together for a "blissful existence."

I certainly agree @Spice it is a tough one.
However, Salix's post did remind me of this,

" Perseverance is the essential requirement in the practice of yoga. It has to be done day by day, week by week, year by year, until the mind is brought to the 'still point' where it is open to the grace of God."
Bede Griffiths

 

[firedragon]

Today's Delving into the Mysteries took me to Taoism. I made note of The Three Treasures: Compassion, Moderation, Humility.
This of course reminded me of Christianity's 1 Corinthians 13:13's Faith, Hope, Love

Then I thought how enlightening and uplifting to see similarities! Soooo

Let's do some comparisons, NOT to find disagreement, but commonalities.

I'll start with Tao te Ching #16
Empty your mind of all thoughts.
Let your heart be at peace.
Watch the turmoil of beings,
but contemplate their return.

Each separate being in the universe
returns to the common source.
Returning to the source is Serenity.

If you don't realize the source,
you stumble in confusion and sorrow.
When you realize where you come from,
you naturally become tolerant,
disinterested, amused,
kindhearted as a grandmother,
dignified as a king.
Immersed in the wonder of the Tao,
you can deal with whatever life brings you,
and when death comes, you are ready.

Can you find a similar thought from your religion to share?

If someone cherry picks, most scripture will have quite rosy sentiments.

 

[PearlSeeker]

I'll start with Tao te Ching #16
Empty your mind of all thoughts.
Let your heart be at peace.
Watch the turmoil of beings,
but contemplate their return.

Each separate being in the universe
returns to the common source.
Returning to the source is Serenity.

If you don't realize the source,
you stumble in confusion and sorrow.
When you realize where you come from,
you naturally become tolerant,
disinterested, amused,
kindhearted as a grandmother,
dignified as a king.
Immersed in the wonder of the Tao,
you can deal with whatever life brings you,
and when death comes, you are ready.

Can you find a similar thought from your religion to share?

Stoics have very similar teachings. Some examples by Marcus Aurelius:

​

If you can cut free of impressions that cling to the mind, free of the future and the past—can make yourself, as Empedocles says, “a sphere rejoicing in its perfect stillness,” and concentrate on living what can be lived (which means the present) . . . then you can spend the time you have left in tranquillity. And in kindness. And at peace with the spirit within you.​

​

~~~​

​

The others obey their own lead, follow their own impulses. Don’t be distracted. Keep walking. Follow your own nature, and follow Nature— along the road they share.​

I walk through what is natural, until the time comes to sink down and rest.​

​

~~~​

​

You have functioned as a part of something; you will vanish into what produced you.​

Or be restored, rather.​

To the logos from which all things spring.​

By being changed.​

​

~~~​

​

To follow the logos in all things is to be relaxed and energetic, joyful and serious at once.​

​

~~~​

​

Be like the cliff against which the waves continually break; but it stands firm and tames the fury of the water around it.​

 

[Secret Chief]

Stoics have very similar teachings. Some examples by Marcus Aurelius:

​

If you can cut free of impressions that cling to the mind, free of the future and the past—can make yourself, as Empedocles says, “a sphere rejoicing in its perfect stillness,” and concentrate on living what can be lived (which means the present) . . . then you can spend the time you have left in tranquillity. And in kindness. And at peace with the spirit within you.​

​

~~~​

​

The others obey their own lead, follow their own impulses. Don’t be distracted. Keep walking. Follow your own nature, and follow Nature— along the road they share.​

I walk through what is natural, until the time comes to sink down and rest.​

​

~~~​

​

You have functioned as a part of something; you will vanish into what produced you.​

Or be restored, rather.​

To the logos from which all things spring.​

By being changed.​

​

~~~​

​

To follow the logos in all things is to be relaxed and energetic, joyful and serious at once.​

​

~~~​

​

Be like the cliff against which the waves continually break; but it stands firm and tames the fury of the water around it.​

Zen seems to me to be almost a melding of Daoism and Stoicism.

 

[Soandso]

It is what it is

 

[Spice]

Striving to live a virtuous life of compassion, integrity, non-violence, non-judgment, gratitude, and detachment from material desires mitigates suffering for both oneself and the world, and ultimately leads to a blissful existence.


Bhagavad Gita 16.1-3

​

The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind, steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses, sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness; non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness, restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and absence of vanity.​

​

BG 16.1-3: Chapter 16, Verse 1-3 – Bhagavad Gita, The Song of God – Swami Mukundananda

BG 16.1-3: The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed … Commentary: Here, Shree Krishna describes twenty-six virtues of a saintly nature. These should be cultivated as a part of our spiritual practice for elevating ourselves …

www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org

The best companion verses I could come up with are:
Mat 11:29,30
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
And Mat 5:3-10
3“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
5“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
6“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
7“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
8“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
9“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
10“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

 

[MayPeaceBeUpOnYou]

The Quran.
Chapter An-Nisa (the woman)
Verse 135


O believers! Stand firm for justice as witnesses for Allah even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or close relatives. Be they rich or poor, Allah is best to ensure their interests. So do not let your desires cause you to deviate ˹from justice˺. If you distort the testimony or refuse to give it, then ˹know that˺ Allah is certainly All-Aware of what you do.

 

[PearlSeeker]

The Four Noble Truths are accepted by all schools of Buddhism and have been the subject of extensive commentary. They may be summarized as follows. The first truth, suffering (Pali: dukkha; Sanskrit: duhkha), is characteristic of existence in the realm of rebirth, called samsara (literally “wandering”).

The second truth is the origin (Pali and Sanskrit: samudaya) or cause of suffering, which the Buddha associated with craving or attachment in his first sermon.

The third truth is the cessation of suffering (Pali and Sanskrit: nirodha), commonly called nibbana (Sanskrit: nirvana).

The fourth and final truth is the path (Pali: magga; Sanskrit: marga) to the cessation of suffering, which was described by the Buddha in his first sermon.

- Donald s Lopez, writing for Britannica

John 16:33​

“These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”

King James Version (KJV)

"Turn away from evil and do good. Search for peace and pursue it." (1 Peter 3:11)

 

[Balthazzar]

Today's Delving into the Mysteries took me to Taoism. I made note of The Three Treasures: Compassion, Moderation, Humility.
This of course reminded me of Christianity's 1 Corinthians 13:13's Faith, Hope, Love

Then I thought how enlightening and uplifting to see similarities! Soooo

Let's do some comparisons, NOT to find disagreement, but commonalities.

I'll start with Tao te Ching #16
Empty your mind of all thoughts.
Let your heart be at peace.
Watch the turmoil of beings,
but contemplate their return.

Each separate being in the universe
returns to the common source.
Returning to the source is Serenity.

If you don't realize the source,
you stumble in confusion and sorrow.
When you realize where you come from,
you naturally become tolerant,
disinterested, amused,
kindhearted as a grandmother,
dignified as a king.
Immersed in the wonder of the Tao,
you can deal with whatever life brings you,
and when death comes, you are ready.

Can you find a similar thought from your religion to share?

1 Corinthians 15: 51-55

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?