What the **** was god thinking when he . . .

[waitasec]

And God is required to 'care' about all things?

yes if god is labeled as benevolent

 

[Breathe]

yes if god is labeled as benevolent

Do you mean omnibenevolent?

 

[waitasec]

Do you mean omnibenevolent?

why yes, yes i do...

 

[Thief]

yes if god is labeled as benevolent

Nay.

Do you think of yourself as benevolent?
Step on ants do you?
Swat flies?
Eat meat?
Could you care less?

 

[painted wolf]

Boredom? I know I love to doodle up new critters when I'm bored, but I can't actually get them to scuttle around.

Come to think of it.... that's probably for the best.

wa:do

 

[Yanni]

made sooo many different forms of life?

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Seriously folks, wouldn't a few of each have sufficed? What the heck was he trying to do that required 81,000 different kinds of mollusks and 5,956 species of red algae, to say nothing of almost a million different insects?

Any creationist want to step up to the plate?

This is something that is beyond the scope of human understanding. However, Jewish tradition teaches that there is not a single life form or molecule in this world that isn't necessary to fulfill God's Master Plan. Somehow, every single creation is dependent on one another and the existence of the Earth is dependent on each creature, as long as that creature lives. God will not allow a creature to pass from this world if it didn't first fulfill its mission, whatever it may be. Think, for example, how flowers depend on the sun and the rain and the bees to spread pollen over them. That's just one of many examples. The large number is for a reason; we do not need to know why.

 

[Android]

This is something that is beyond the scope of human understanding. However, Jewish tradition teaches that there is not a single life form or molecule in this world that isn't necessary to fulfill God's Master Plan.

Are you saying jews are super human?

 

[otokage007]

Nay.

Do you think of yourself as benevolent?
Step on ants do you?
Swat flies?
Eat meat?
Could you care less?

By that rule, I'm not benevolent. However, I can afford to be wicked cause I'm human. On the other hand, God is not allowed to be evil.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

This is something that is beyond the scope of human understanding. However, Jewish tradition teaches that there is not a single life form or molecule in this world that isn't necessary to fulfill God's Master Plan.

Are you saying jews are super human?

I honestly cannot tell whether this is a case of antisemitism, benign yet incoherent humor, or some quirky form of reading disability, but there's nothing in Yanni's statement that should warrant such an interpretation.

 

[Breathe]

On the other hand, God is not allowed to be evil.

Why not? Who made this rule?

 

[otokage007]

Why not? Who made this rule?

Me. :beach:

...

JK. God is benevolent and is love according to the Bible. And if he does something "bad", it isn't bad actualy, because he made it without evil intentions. It may appear wicked to the human mind, but just because you don't and can't understand Him.

 

[Breathe]

God is benevolent and is love according to the Bible. And if he does something "bad", it isn't bad actualy, because he made it without evil intentions.

However, the Bible even says:

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things." - Isaiah 45:7, NIV Translation


So, not necessarily true, I guess?

Bible God isn't the only God concept, though, as we all know.

 

[Yanni]

I honestly cannot tell whether this is a case of antisemitism, benign yet incoherent humor, or some quirky form of reading disability, but there's nothing in Yanni's statement that should warrant such an interpretation.

Thank you Jayhawker.

 

[earlwooters]

Variety is the spice of life, even God knows that.

 

[otokage007]

However, the Bible even says:

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things." - Isaiah 45:7, NIV Translation

I think I have the permission of the christians here if I say that God would never bring darkness or disaster moved by evil intentions.

Bible God isn't the only God concept, though, as we all know.

True, excuse for falling into stereotypes.

 

[Skwim]

Variety is the spice of life, even God knows that.

But 1,589,361 spices? Seems pretty excessive to me.

 

[Android]

I honestly cannot tell whether this is a case of antisemitism, benign yet incoherent humor, or some quirky form of reading disability, but there's nothing in Yanni's statement that should warrant such an interpretation.

Really?
"This is something that is beyond the scope of human understanding. However, jewish tradition teaches...."
Sounds like the jews can understand something the rest of us mere humans can't.

As for antisemitism... don't flatter yourself. I consider all religious groups equally deluded.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

Seriously folks, wouldn't a few of each have sufficed? What the heck was he trying to do that required 81,000 different kinds of mollusks and 5,956 species of red algae, to say nothing of almost a million different insects?

Any creationist want to step up to the plate?

I bet i can guess some of their answers.

1. No one can understand the mind of god. (pretty much their answer for everything)
2. The different varieties evolved through the process of microevolution, but macroevolution still doesn't happen (old earth creationist only)
3. Why do you hate god so much?
4. God just put them all there to test you.
5. Just open your heart and let Jesus in and you will understand.
6. Go read your bible, everything will become clear.
7. Your faith in science is unreasonable, those scientists are biased.

-Q

 

[otokage007]

But 1,589,361 spices? Seems pretty excessive to me.

Actualy the recent studies of taxonomy and zoology, state that there's only half million species known and not 1.500.000. Some of the problems that made such a high number, were for example:

-The same species named different in different countries. For example a name in china and a diferent name in Canada. So when counted, it was taken as two diferent species.

-A variation of a specie is took as another different specie, increasing the number of species wrongly.

However, even if there is only half million species, the thread is still correct in my opinion.

EDIT: I'm trying to find a font for those still skeptic but I have only found this: http://www.physorg.com/news194850303.html

 

[painted wolf]

Actualy the recent studies of taxonomy and zoology, state that there's only half million species known and not 1.500.000. Some of the problems that made such a high number, were for example:

-The same species named different in different countries. For example a name in china and a diferent name in Canada. So when counted, it was taken as two diferent species.

Incorrect. Species are designated by scientific names... Canis lupus is the same no matter if it lives in North America or Europe or Asia.

-A variation of a specie is took as another different specie, increasing the number of species wrongly.

Actually, genetics is showing that more often then not it's the opposite. You have two species that look amazingly similar but are distinct species from one another.

International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature

However, even if there is only half million species, the thread is still correct in my opinion.

EDIT: I'm trying to find a font for those still skeptic but I have only found this: Who are we sharing the planet with? Millions less species than previously thought

Your source doesn't support your claim.

Your source still puts the total estimated number of species at over 5 million. Not counting bacteria.

You seem to have confused the estimated number of species being reduced by as much as half with the number of documented species.... which is currently over 1 million.

wa:do