What the **** was god thinking when he . . .

[otokage007]

Incorrect. Species are designated by scientific names... Canis lupus is the same no matter if it lives in North America or Europe or Asia.

Of course I wasn't talking about non-scientific names. The problem is diferent scientific names being given in diferent countries.
For example: Genipa americana, exists also as: Genipa caruto, Genipa oblongifolia and Genipa excelsa. At first, they were took as four diferent species until taxonomists came to the conclusion that the four names were synonims and designated the same specie. This is a huge problem that taxonomy is still fixing nowadays.

Actually, genetics is showing that more often then not it's the opposite. You have two species that look amazingly similar but are distinct species from one another.

That's also true. But has nothing to do with what I have said. A specie can have a notable amount of anatomic variations that can lead to believe those variations are diferent species rather than only one, specialy in plants. It is thanks to genetic and molecular techniques that now biologists are discovering that there's much less species known than we thought.

Your source doesn't support your claim.

Your source still puts the total estimated number of species at over 5 million. Not counting bacteria.

You seem to have confused the estimated number of species being reduced by as much as half with the number of documented species.... which is currently over 1 million.

I wasn't talking about the estimated number of species, but the species known, which isn't 1 million, but around half million. Also, I know my source doesn't support my claim, but still sais that there is much less species in the world than we thought.

I am a biologist, this is something they teach in the career since a couple of years. The 1,500,000 quantity is obsolote, however I'm still trying to find an internet source.

 

[Breathe]

I think I have the permission of the christians here if I say that God would never bring darkness or disaster moved by evil intentions.

However, their scriptural texts point out God does both good and evil.

Personally have no problem with a God who would bring in good and evil into the world.

True, excuse for falling into stereotypes.

Forgiven.

 

[Skwim]

Of course I wasn't talking about non-scientific names. The problem is diferent scientific names being given in diferent countries.
For example: Genipa americana, exists also as: Genipa caruto, Genipa oblongifolia and Genipa excelsa. At first, they were took as four diferent species until taxonomists came to the conclusion that the four names were synonims and designated the same specie. This is a huge problem that taxonomy is still fixing nowadays.

Reclassification will always be an ongoing task in taxonomy; however, I don't ever remember reading that the situation you describe is anything close to being a "huge problem." And just as some species are found to be one and the same, other species have been split in two or three species, and not just subspecies. So, as far as the list I presented goes, It no doubt harbors species that would be better considered a single species, and it no doubt harbors species that would be better considered separate species. How it all comes out in the wash a hundred years from now is anyone's guess, but I think it's safe to assume that however the two processes balance out the number of species counted today won't be too much different than what it is now. Add to that the continued discovery of wholly new species the total number is more inclined to increase than decrease.

 

[painted wolf]

Of course I wasn't talking about non-scientific names. The problem is diferent scientific names being given in diferent countries.
For example: Genipa americana, exists also as: Genipa caruto, Genipa oblongifolia and Genipa excelsa. At first, they were took as four diferent species until taxonomists came to the conclusion that the four names were synonims and designated the same specie. This is a huge problem that taxonomy is still fixing nowadays.

That is what the ICZN and other groups are for... determining the validity of species names.

For example 18,225 new species were discovered in 2008 and validated in 2010. This means they are not repetitive with older taxon.
SOS Report - 2010 | International Institute for Species Exploration

That's also true. But has nothing to do with what I have said. A specie can have a notable amount of anatomic variations that can lead to believe those variations are diferent species rather than only one, specialy in plants. It is thanks to genetic and molecular techniques that now biologists are discovering that there's much less species known than we thought.

I have never heard the "much less"... I have heard fewer but never half. Given the rates of new species discovery I find the idea that half of the old known species are wrong a little hard to swallow.

I wasn't talking about the estimated number of species, but the species known, which isn't 1 million, but around half million. Also, I know my source doesn't support my claim, but still sais that there is much less species in the world than we thought.

It says that there are likely fewer undescribed species than was previously estimated. Which is valid as we are talking about guessing numbers to begin with.

I am a biologist, this is something they teach in the career since a couple of years. The 1,500,000 quantity is obsolote, however I'm still trying to find an internet source.

Can you cite a non internet source?

wa:do

 

[fantome profane]

Why wouldn't God enjoy diversity of life?

I enjoy diversity of life, and if I was making living creatures I'd have made them as multiple and varied as possible.

But wouldn’t it be even more interesting if you allowed these life-forms to create themselves? Then you could just watch as endless beautiful forms developed over time. That is what I would do.

 

[fantome profane]

But 1,589,361 spices? Seems pretty excessive to me.

The spice of life.

 

[Thief]

By that rule, I'm not benevolent. However, I can afford to be wicked cause I'm human. On the other hand, God is not allowed to be evil.

Jeremiah 8:18

I don't quote scripture often, but this one verse indicates....

God....is willing to consider doing harm, in return for what Man does....
and is also willing to 'repent' the 'evil He thought to do....'

God able to consider doing harm....and then again....reconsider.

 

[Yerda]

But wouldn’t it be even more interesting if you allowed these life-forms to create themselves? Then you could just watch as endless beautiful forms developed over time. That is what I would do.

Aye, I dare say that would be more interesting.