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What was Jesus doing from when he did that thing when he was 13 until he got killed on the cross?

hannah969

Member
I studied the Bible at my high school and it doesn't say anything about what Jesus did or where he went for like nearly 20 years of his short life. What was he doing? Waiting to die?

The more I contemplate my own religion, the less it makes sense to me. *EDIT*. Because spreading this lie to so many people and terrifying children with lies is the same as child abuse.
 
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Jumi

Well-Known Member
Losing your religion? I don't think you should judge people as something to "get rid of", even if you don't like what they believe in.
 

ether-ore

Active Member
I studied the Bible at my high school and it doesn't say anything about what Jesus did or where he went for like nearly 20 years of his short life. What was he doing? Waiting to die?

The more I contemplate my own religion, the less it makes sense to me. I think we should get rid of religious people or at least just the Christians. Because spreading this lie to so many people and terrifying children with lies is the same as child abuse.
Wow... Get a grip! Just because there is no record of what Jesus did for twenty years of His life, you have a problem with the doctrine of the gospel? All we know about that period is what it says in Luke 20:53: "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Just what is it you think you need to know? Whether or not he had a girl friend and went to the prom? My guess is that he continued to follow tradition as is suggested by Luke 20:46: "And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions." Also in Luke 20:49: "And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business? This last suggesting that Jesus was dutifully continuing t go about preparing to do His Father's (God's) business of saving His children.

And... wow... because YOU are unable to "make sense" of your own religion then that means you have become the sole authority of what is to be considered valid and all those who don't agree with you should be "got rid of"? Well little miss Nazi, just when do you plan going to fire up your gas chambers and ovens?
One last comment: None of the little children I know in my church's Primary are what you call terrified. What little children are you referring to? Are you terrifying little children with your version of gospel stories? Maybe we should put you away.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Wow... Get a grip! Just because there is no record of what Jesus did for twenty years of His life, you have a problem with the doctrine of the gospel? All we know about that period is what it says in Luke 20:53: "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Just what is it you think you need to know? Whether or not he had a girl friend and went to the prom? My guess is that he continued to follow tradition as is suggested by Luke 20:46: "And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions." Also in Luke 20:49: "And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business? This last suggesting that Jesus was dutifully continuing t go about preparing to do His Father's (God's) business of saving His children.

And... wow... because YOU are unable to "make sense" of your own religion then that means you have become the sole authority of what is to be considered valid and all those who don't agree with you should be "got rid of"? Well little miss Nazi, just when do you plan going to fire up your gas chambers and ovens?
One last comment: None of the little children I know in my church's Primary are what you call terrified. What little children are you referring to? Are you terrifying little children with your version of gospel stories? Maybe we should put you away.
1. Either-ore, I am very disappointed with you. This was just plain rude to a new member.
2. The only person who needs to make sense of faith, no matter what branch, is the person who holds that belief. They are the sole authority and have every single right to question those beliefs. Calling this woman a Nazi was beyond rude. It is the right of every person to question faith and find the one that best fits them. It may not be Christianity for this person. And that is fine. What gives you the right to dictate to her, assuming it is a her, what she can and cannot believe. I have expected more from you than this.
 

ether-ore

Active Member
1. Either-ore, I am very disappointed with you. This was just plain rude to a new member.
2. The only person who needs to make sense of faith, no matter what branch, is the person who holds that belief. They are the sole authority and have every single right to question those beliefs. Calling this woman a Nazi was beyond rude. It is the right of every person to question faith and find the one that best fits them. It may not be Christianity for this person. And that is fine. What gives you the right to dictate to her, assuming it is a her, what she can and cannot believe. I have expected more from you than this.
When someone says they want to "get rid of" Christians and other people of faith... yeah... alarms go off for me. I tend to get images of the Holocaust, to say nothing of the horrors of early days of my own denomination. Certainly she is allowed to question her own faith, but to condemn all other Christians is carrying it a bit far in my estimation; especially when she accuses them of child abuse.
I'm not dictating anything to her concerning what she believes. I'm responding to her attitude towards the beliefs of others. When you hear "get rid of" what would your response have been? To shrug it off?


I just need to add: I can't tell you the number of times I have been lectured on how, if you come in here, you have to be prepared to have what you say challenged and that as an adult you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of what you say.
 
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Etritonakin

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Ermmmmmm -I heard he was .... carpentering.... and pretty much growing up.

Luk 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
Luk 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

Also... part of the reason Christ became flesh was to experience a human life firsthand -not only death -so that he could become a better intercessor for us with the Father.

Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Heb 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
Heb 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
 
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ether-ore

Active Member
I've had time to reflect on what I said. Also I've discussed this with my sister and she has given me some good advice. So, I want to apologize for being harsh. I would like to say that the idea of "getting rid of people" because of their beliefs is disturbing to me. It is this kind of thinking that stated the Holocaust and for this reason it is wrong.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
it seems to be a common feeling these days to get rid of religion. everywhere you look religious freedom is being chipped away. soon all religion will be eliminated and the ungodly will run everything. it seems to already be that way in our political system and courts
 

ether-ore

Active Member
1. Either-ore, I am very disappointed with you. This was just plain rude to a new member.
2. The only person who needs to make sense of faith, no matter what branch, is the person who holds that belief. They are the sole authority and have every single right to question those beliefs. Calling this woman a Nazi was beyond rude. It is the right of every person to question faith and find the one that best fits them. It may not be Christianity for this person. And that is fine. What gives you the right to dictate to her, assuming it is a her, what she can and cannot believe. I have expected more from you than this.
BTW it's ether, not either
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
it seems to be a common feeling these days to get rid of religion. everywhere you look religious freedom is being chipped away. soon all religion will be eliminated and the ungodly will run everything. it seems to already be that way in our political system and courts
Why do you think religion has lost meaning these days? I think it's because more active religions want to profile themselves as confrontational and being against certain types of people or certain sciences. People who happen to know these sciences they attack or types of people they often try to misportray or are uneducated about will be alienated.

Religion seemed to have lost it's meaning for western people before, but there were short comeback periods with all sorts of religious revivals and subcultures that more conservative religious people fought hard to suppress.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I've had time to reflect on what I said. Also I've discussed this with my sister and she has given me some good advice. So, I want to apologize for being harsh. I would like to say that the idea of "getting rid of people" because of their beliefs is disturbing to me. It is this kind of thinking that stated the Holocaust and for this reason it is wrong.
I felt it a bad choice of words too and I'm non-religious. I for one don't want to "get rid of" anyone.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
it doesn't say anything about what Jesus did or where he went for like nearly 20 years of his short life. What was he doing? Waiting to die?

He was playing with The Jerks in NYC during the no wave scene of decades past. Drums, I think.


The more I contemplate my own religion, the less it makes sense to me. I think we should get rid of religious people or at least just the Christians. Because spreading this lie to so many people and terrifying children with lies is the same as child abuse.

Eh, we can't get rid of Christians. Too many aren't really guilty of anything, and also it would be expensive and incredibly time consumptive to do. Also, I don't want to force relocate or kill anyone personally, so.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
I studied the Bible at my high school and it doesn't say anything about what Jesus did or where he went for like nearly 20 years of his short life. What was he doing? Waiting to die?

The more I contemplate my own religion, the less it makes sense to me. I think we should get rid of religious people or at least just the Christians. Because spreading this lie to so many people and terrifying children with lies is the same as child abuse.

Almost, probably ALL Bible characters have no biography from birth to death. It just isn't important to the Semitic mind to who the Bible was written. Westerners (greco/roman thought) need every little detail of ones life plainly described to analyze the person. What was Jesus (if he was a real historical person) doing, growing up and living like any other Semitic child.
 

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
I studied the Bible at my high school and it doesn't say anything about what Jesus did or where he went for like nearly 20 years of his short life. What was he doing? Waiting to die?

The more I contemplate my own religion, the less it makes sense to me. I think we should get rid of religious people or at least just the Christians. Because spreading this lie to so many people and terrifying children with lies is the same as child abuse.
He may have just been helping out the family business of carpentry. There are some conspirators that think Jesus could have been a Buddhist monk at one point as well. That's not really my view.
 

pacifica

Member
Almost, probably ALL Bible characters have no biography from birth to death. It just isn't important to the Semitic mind to who the Bible was written. Westerners (greco/roman thought) need every little detail of ones life plainly described to analyze the person. What was Jesus (if he was a real historical person) doing, growing up and living like any other Semitic child.

This is a bizarre statement. Westerners are a product of both Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian thought. They are inseparable if you want to understand anything about the Western world.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
He may have just been helping out the family business of carpentry. There are some conspirators that think Jesus could have been a Buddhist monk at one point as well. That's not really my view.

I have heard it around quite a bit that Jesus studied under enlightened masters in India. The main reasoning for this is that so much of what Jesus taught was actually in line with the mysticism commonly associated with Indian traditions.

I don't believe he did, personally. I believe that mysticism is universal, rather than a taught tradition.
 

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
I have heard it around quite a bit that Jesus studied under enlightened masters in India. The main reasoning for this is that so much of what Jesus taught was actually in line with the mysticism commonly associated with Indian traditions.
Do you remember who wrote that book about it?
 
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