What was Jesus doing from when he did that thing when he was 13 until he got killed on the cross?

[Twilight Hue]

The distance from Jerusalem to India is approx..

10,338.2 km

One way.


For one so allegedly acclaimed as Jesus, it's rather strange there is no actual written record or account of such a journey in the first place, much less any account made in general.

 

[outhouse]

Is that all you can say ?, you poor thing. !!

There is no use arguing with people that argue from a point of lack knowledge and then demanding they are correct.

I lecture in a college in Sacramento on some of these topics, and love to share the most credible version I know of this history.

Now if you have some NEW information academia does not know about this topic please share. But I have personally read up on this exact subject and know EXACTLY where the credible academic stance is on the subject.

Show me I'm wrong, and I can change my knowledge.

 

[outhouse]

The distance from Jerusalem to India is approx..

10,338.2 km

One way.


For one so allegedly acclaimed as Jesus, it's rather strange there is no actual written record or account of such a journey in the first place, much less any account made in general.

What little we know about Jesus, is that very little of the NT can even be attributed to him. He was an Aramaic Galilean from Nazareth who lived a life below that of a common peasant suffering under Antipas rule living a terrible life of oppression living on a subsistence level of day to day survival.

This is based on not only the argued socioeconomic status of Galilee, but on the type of housing existed in these Aramaic villages. This amounted to rough fieldstone houses with walls that used feces, with no windows and dirt floors, an oil lamp, often living with animals if they even had any. They ate very little meat less the Passover holiday , and lived on flat bread dipped in olive oil or vinegar and a few other seasonal fruits and vegi's. By our best accounts.

His fishermen friends also lived a life below common peasants. It was a tough existence to be an Aramaic Galilean.

 

[ether-ore]

Psychoslice, I would be curious to hear your reasoning behind believing Jesus had been to India. Personally, I do not believe he had, but I would like to see the counter-view so that I might more fairly consider it.

I echo Kirran's request. I too would like to know where this evidence of Jesus Christ having been to India can be found. I'd like to review it myself to see if there is any merit to it.

 

[Kirran]

I echo Kirran's request. I too would like to know where this evidence of Jesus Christ having been to India can be found. I'd like to review it myself to see if there is any merit to it.

Psychoslice has been so kind as to answer this question here:

There is actually tones of info on Jesus in India, I must say that I don't even believe in the man Jesus, but the story of Jesus is certainly a mixed bag. Much of the new testament is stories mixed with stories from the Hindu, the Buddha and many other belief systems, and the end result is the Jesus that we know from the new testament. There are so many similarities between the stories of Jesus and other god men, such as Krishna, and the Buddha, to believe that the whole new testament is a completely new story is just ridiculers.

I certainly don't know the full truth of the matter, and no one here certainly knows, to say that you know the exact truth is fooling yourself, this is what Outhouse is doing, fooling himself, just do your own investigation on the matter, there is so much out there, and I believe we will never know the truth, because there is so much taken from various truths and cultured into the Christian belief system, and it doesn't matter if we ever know the truth, just use what you have and let that take you into the truth that is only found within, nowhere else.

 

[outhouse]

Psychoslice has been so kind as to answer this question here:

He supplied no evidence at all. What evidence do you see that he supplied?


He gave one link to a book that holds no credibility as any kind of evidence.

 

[ether-ore]

He supplied no evidence at all. What evidence do you see that he supplied?
He gave one link to a book that holds no credibility as any kind of evidence.

As I see it, the only "evidence" even suggested is that there are similarities between the teachings in the various belief systems. I find a statement like that to be dubious at best. A similarity is not justification to assume that one individual is the source of such divergent belief systems; some similarities notwithstanding.

I hasten to add that accepted records of Jesus Christ make no allusions to His making a journey to India or anywhere other than to the children of Israel.

 

[outhouse]

As I see it, the only "evidence" even suggested is that there are similarities between the teachings in the various belief systems

Exactly.

And these are all to be expected from men defining the deity concepts.

 

[psychoslice]

This article is not only no a credible source of any kind. But it also attributes all NT sayings as coming directly from jesus, not the unknown authors who wrote the words used in the article.


The article is fine for understanding the difference and similarities between the religions.


BUT the comparison between Jesus and Buddha, are far from academic.

Of course its far from academic, the academic cannot understand the spiritual meaning of anything, if you keep using that you will never know the truth that is within all scriptures, they are not to be agued over, they are there to ignite our inner being, to awaken us to the truth that is only found within, academic cannot give you that.

 

[psychoslice]

Intelligence
Mind is not your intelligence.

It may sound strange but this is a truth, that mind is not your intelligence. Mind can be intellectual, which is a very poor substitute for intelligence. Intellectuality is mechanical. You can become a great scholar, a great professor, a great philosopher – just playing with words which are all borrowed, arranging and rearranging thoughts, none of which are your own.

The intellect is absolutely bankrupt. It has nothing of its own, all is borrowed. And that´s the difference between intelligence and intellect. Intelligence has an eyesight of its own, a capacity to see into things, into problems.

Intelligence is your born quality.

 

[outhouse]

Of course its far from academic, the academic cannot understand the spiritual meaning of anything,

Oh so Jesus only made a spiritual journey to India .

 

[outhouse]

Mind is not your intelligence.

Factually if you have no mind, you have no intelligence.

just playing with words which are all borrowed, arranging and rearranging thoughts, none of which are your own.

You call education and knowledge what ever like if it helps you sleep at night.

Buh bye

 

[psychoslice]

Oh so Jesus only made a spiritual journey to India .

As I already said, I don't believe in the man Jesus, I do see truth within the scriptures, so what Jesus supposed said is taken from other belief systems, so yes, he didn't actually go to India, he went nowhere, its all a story, a metaphor, certainly not for the academic, they will miss the make.

 

[ether-ore]

Intelligence
Mind is not your intelligence.

It may sound strange but this is a truth, that mind is not your intelligence. Mind can be intellectual, which is a very poor substitute for intelligence. Intellectuality is mechanical. You can become a great scholar, a great professor, a great philosopher – just playing with words which are all borrowed, arranging and rearranging thoughts, none of which are your own.

The intellect is absolutely bankrupt. It has nothing of its own, all is borrowed. And that´s the difference between intelligence and intellect. Intelligence has an eyesight of its own, a capacity to see into things, into problems.

Intelligence is your born quality.

I actually like this statement... this definition of Intelligence. Within my own faith, we believe that the "Intelligences" have always existed without beginning. But I have to disagree with the previous post; that he academic cannot know of spiritual things. That presupposes that the academic in question relies solely on empiricism. I don't believe that is necessarily the case. I believe the empirical and the spiritual can be reconciled. It is just that academia and religion have not made much effort to reconcile. Still this says nothing about whether Christ went to India. I still say that there is no credible evidence to suggest He did. Anecdotal suggestion does not count as hard evidence.

 

[psychoslice]

Factually if you have no mind, you have no intelligence.



You call education and knowledge what ever like if it helps you sleep at night.

Buh bye

No your wrong, the mind only knows through conditioning and the more we are conditioned the more intelligent we think we are, what you read is your conditioning, that your believe to be the truth, but you need true intelligence to truly understand the scriptures, intelligence is not intellectualism, its beyond that, but yea, there is a place for you, for me personally, I'm not interested in the academicals, only the spiritual.

 

[psychoslice]

I actually like this statement... this definition of Intelligence. Within my own faith, we believe that the "Intelligences" have always existed without beginning. But I have to disagree with the previous post; that he academic cannot know of spiritual things. That presupposes that the academic in question relies solely on empiricism. I don't believe that is necessarily the case. I believe the empirical and the spiritual can be reconciled. It is just that academia and religion have not made much effort to reconcile. Still this says nothing about whether Christ went to India. I still say that there is no credible evidence to suggest He did. Anecdotal suggestion does not count as hard evidence.

Yes of course, if both are there, but if only the academic is there, then there is no hope.