What was your religious education in public schools by State?

[MikeDwight]

I'm so supportive of your approach paarsurrey. The Muslims need more adapters. You appear like an American caring about Islam. However the international Muslim is known for these particular points for you to consider! Having multiple women is more effective for child birth. They are the one religion without racism (why is that?) because they traded white/black slaves for sex and they believe IN those caliphs/empires throughout their history, they are trying to destroy muslim nations as the European invention of nations that they are from the 60's. What else, that all other languages are dirt, and we're al going to take the time to learn Arabic for a Religion Really? I think its the other way around my friend, concerning learning languages.

 

[paarsurrey]

When Napoleon tried for the new World we are so comfortable with today, saying he was the True Muslim, or when the French tried to give cannonry to the Ottomans. Why did the Ottomans reject French Cannons? The Imams said, well its heathen/heretic technology. I'm just pointing out something we think its easy to miss because racism tended to be the spread of technology, or technology sharers, or the odd case of islands feeling like they're other islands, and the japanese-English alliance, and the Brits handed over aircraft carriers and pilot instructors even.

This is the most important topic on religious forums. Especially when science was a tool Under religion.

Hey Guys! That's 4 posts on that one guy's rant about being an atheist. When Religion enters science and its still all rants.

"This is the most important topic on religious forums. Especially when science was a tool Under religion."

Science is a common tool of knowing about the material and physical aspects of the human life, and Religion covers the whole aspect of the life with special emphasis on ethical, moral and spiritual aspects. Right, please?

Regards

 

[Darkstorn]

Well I guess so. So you related to Finland having taught all those international religious topics? What about Amanaki's take about giving a broad religious overview of the world only? Just curious on standardization mainly.

I don't think they're religious topics directly: Well, some are. Luther and his theses for example. But they are also one of the causes of the thirty years war, which is the single most important event of the late middle ages/early modern period from an European(or at least northern European) point of view. So in order to understand that subject, you also need to understand something of the things that caused it. It wasn't a strictly religious war even though it played a part.

I think the fact that Catholic France supported the protestant side is testament to this: The war could be on the other hand be looked as a reaction against increasing Habsburg power.

The reason we really know about Anne Boleyn is the whole farcical personal story of Henry VIII. It's a hilarious story of the dangers of bad rulership. The fact that it also directly relates to the history of the Anglican church is moot, though we did also learn that.

But yeah, just because things have religious implications or reasons, doesn't mean they didn't happen. So, an objective history class should teach about historical people who might or might not have been religious, if they merit it for other reasons. And most of your examples do. The reason we were taught about Stonewall Jackson is because of his military genius, not of his personal faith.

 

[MikeDwight]

Which reminds

"This is the most important topic on religious forums. Especially when science was a tool Under religion."

Science is a common tool of knowing about the material and physical aspects of the human life, and Religion covers the whole aspect of the life with special emphasis on ethical, moral and spiritual aspects. Right, please?

Regards

Which reminds me of pride in the Arabic numeral system we know today, especially they claimed Islamic innovation and renaissance during the dark European medieval age and series of inventions.

Of course, the devastation in Germany from mercenary companies during the thirty years war, nobody likes being the battlefield, obviously. There are many topics for the general person in those events, I see.

Not much difference, Habsburg dynasty should mean Catholic, as opposed to Capetian, Plantaginet, Comnemnus, or others.
Habsburgs are the uniting of Spain, briefly assume Hasburgian England a few years with "Bloody Mary" as co-ruler. Sicily. The Habsburgs actually end up in Catholic Austria against the Ottomans. They actually end their reign because of President Woodrow Wilson's peace settlement against Austria in World War 1.

That would be misleading then, concerning a quickly promoted officer, who favored Presbyterians, blue-light Elders being the pastor of Presbyterians, blue-light meaning original or true. His leadership is most notable for installing combat pastors everywhere. "Stonewall Jackson's Way", is talking about a Pastor. "Bonnie Blue Flag" is the stance of a government written constitutional convention. Julia Jackson is pinned with Scottish Medals. You can look up some fun photos of his famous daughter who was with his wife while he was on campaign. julia stonewall jackson photos - Bing images

 

[Shiranui117]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




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I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

All of them except Anne Bolelyn. We just knew that Henry VIII had a lot of wives and he killed like half of them. Anne's name might have shown up but honestly we just knew Henry VIII went through wives like I go through socks. I was educated in a good public school in Ohio.

 

[Shiranui117]

'Round here none of those are inherently religious subjects. I learned about those subjects mostly in history class.

Same here. I mean, we had a World Religions class as an elective where we learned the basics of each major world religion, but all the stuff in the OP was covered during American history and European history classes.

 

[Darkstorn]

Not much difference, Habsburg dynasty should mean Catholic, as opposed to Capetian, Plantaginet, Comnemnus, or others.
Habsburgs are the uniting of Spain, briefly assume Hasburgian England a few years with "Bloody Mary" as co-ruler. Sicily. The Habsburgs actually end up in Catholic Austria against the Ottomans. They actually end their reign because of President Woodrow Wilson's peace settlement against Austria in World War 1.

I am aware of all that.

The Habsburgs controlling Spain, essentially sandwiching France between the Holy Roman Empire and Spain ruled by the same family, is the reason for France's entry into the war. A lesser known fact is that the French not only financed the entire Protestant war effort, they later took control of it.

So it ended up being a war between Catholic France(held by one of the cadet houses of Capet) and Catholic Habsurg Holy Roman Empire & Spain.

 

[Darkstorn]

Same here. I mean, we had a World Religions class as an elective where we learned the basics of each major world religion, but all the stuff in the OP was covered during American history and European history classes.

We also had a class like that. I took it.

 

[MikeDwight]

I am aware of all that.

The Habsburgs controlling Spain, essentially sandwiching France between the Holy Roman Empire and Spain ruled by the same family, is the reason for France's entry into the war. A lesser known fact is that the French not only financed the entire Protestant war effort, they later took control of it.

So it ended up being a war between Catholic France(held by one of the cadet houses of Capet) and Catholic Habsurg Holy Roman Empire & Spain.

By the way, thanks for that. That may explain the State and Quality of religion in France for their Revolution.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




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I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

I would say that my secular public school mentioned all 15 of your people/topics over the years of junior high and high school.
The individual people in your list were predominantly treated as historical figures who had impact upon religious and societal norms for their times.

Central Alaska (Fairbanks)

 

[Daemon Sophic]

Same here. I mean, we had a World Religions class as an elective where we learned the basics of each major world religion, but all the stuff in the OP was covered during American history and European history classes.

Exactly.

 

[MikeDwight]

Shiranui was the kind of information I was looking for. I was almost sure getting about the Mason-Dixon line and the textbooks would be filled with Kennedy, Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln, McCarthyism to round it off. He says Ohio had terms about everything besides anne boleyne. Did Ohio get a long series on Martin Luther King Jr.?

I personally didn't get a World Religions anything. That sounds rare. Like anyone in your area would claim to teach all world religion?

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi, Paarsurrey.

Something that just came to me. You sometimes talk of the atheism people or atheist people.

"People", in English, is not quite the same as "persons". Persons is just the plural of "person". "People" means roughly the same thing, but there is often an understanding that there is something uniting the persons that make up a people, usually some form of ethnic characteristic or cultural trait.

By that perspective, there is no atheistic people. We atheist literally have nothing in common other than being atheists - and it would be most unusual to find any atheists who think of us as a "people" for that reason. Even other atheists would think of that as, at the very least, weird.

That clarified, let's see what you propose...



Fair enough, and agreed.


Within reasonable parameters, sure. There are certain duties that arise from the social contract. For instance, literacy is not really optional on this day and age. And a measure of civic awareness is also IMO an indispensable part of any curriculum.


Not sure of what you mean here. But it is certainly not demeaning to science to point out that it is, indeed, a tool for believers (theists, I assume) as much as for anyone else. Scientific knowledge and its benefits has not been kept apart from theists, nor should it.




All the best.

""People", in English, is not quite the same as "persons". Persons is just the plural of "person". "People" means roughly the same thing, but there is often an understanding that there is something uniting the persons that make up a people, usually some form of ethnic characteristic or cultural trait."

I don't see anything worthwhile in "Atheism" so I express my disagreement with it. As far as the Atheists, I am not against them in their persons and I am in favor of equitable treatment to them by every Religion. Hence I address them as Atheism people to make it the most impersonal instead of Atheism persons, which gives a connotation of being personal. Right, please?

And one knows that friends @LuisDantas and friend @Willamena , I like them most in the forum.

Regards

 

[MikeDwight]

I would say that my secular public school mentioned all 15 of your people/topics over the years of junior high and high school.
The individual people in your list were predominantly treated as historical figures who had impact upon religious and societal norms for their times.

Central Alaska (Fairbanks)

That's kind of the interesting discussion. A government leads you through Gutenberg Bibles, Martin Luther's 95 Theses, Lutheran princes in Germany, then the Lutheran points the mora finger at the students and then says lets pray. I can see that.

 

[MikeDwight]

""People", in English, is not quite the same as "persons". Persons is just the plural of "person". "People" means roughly the same thing, but there is often an understanding that there is something uniting the persons that make up a people, usually some form of ethnic characteristic or cultural trait."

I don't see anything worthwhile in "Atheism" so I express my disagreement with it. As far as the Atheists, I am not against them in their persons and I am in favor of equitable treatment to them by every Religion. Hence I address them as Atheism people or if they like Atheism persons.
And one knows that friends @LuisDantas and friend @Willamena , I like them most in the forum.

Regards

Atheists are in favor of shutting down the forum. Why don't they go with agnostics? If you have a verified positive belief there are no gods to consider such atheism, then somehow you are looking to shut down the Religious Forums.

 

[Darkstorn]

Atheists are in favor of shutting down the forum. Why don't they go with agnostics? If you have a verified positive belief there are no gods to consider such atheism, then somehow you are looking to shut down the Religious Forums.

No they aren't. I know because i'm an atheist.

Why would i be here if i wanted this place shut down?

 

[Shiranui117]

Shiranui was the kind of information I was looking for. I was almost sure getting about the Mason-Dixon line and the textbooks would be filled with Kennedy, Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln, McCarthyism to round it off. He says Ohio had terms about everything besides anne boleyne. Did Ohio get a long series on Martin Luther King Jr.?

Yeah, all this and the stuff you put in the OP is standard curriculum at any school with halfway decent resources and teachers. I also finished high school in 2012, so maybe we millennials just are better in school than you old curmudgeons.

I personally didn't get a World Religions anything. That sounds rare. Like anyone in your area would claim to teach all world religion?

I mean, it's not hard to learn enough about each world religion to be able to give a broad overview. We went through all of them in a semester. Regular social studies teachers did that for us.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

That's kind of the interesting discussion. A government leads you through Gutenberg Bibles, Martin Luther's 95 Theses, Lutheran princes in Germany, then the Lutheran points the mora finger at the students and then says lets pray. I can see that.

There was no prayer in my schools (although I’m certain that some kids may have quietly done so before major events - as is typical).
There was no in depth discussion of the 95 verses or reading of the bible. It exists. Some people find it inspirational, right along with billions of other people finding other sources of inspiration. Meh.

 

[Kenny]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




-----
I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

Religious education?

None, during the my 6th grade and 10th grade that I spent in the US.

 

[MikeDwight]

Well I can pretty much conclude my study with the general community's help, which concerned nationalist agendas and regional agendas in religious education. Thanks. Especially with state-reviewed grade school textbooks. Social Studies/history that's correct. Sounds like everyone regionally believed religious educations to be mostly equivalent, at least on these few topics.