What was your religious education in public schools by State?

[paarsurrey]

Honestly, I don't even know whether "people" is more personal than "persons", equivalent, or the other way around.

In any case, disagreeing with atheism is fine. Denying its legitimacy is definitely not fine.

"Denying its legitimacy is definitely not fine"

They have every right to co-existence, I don't deny that.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I do not think school, especially for kids and young adults is the right place to teach religion. There are so many different religions and views that if teachers should know enough to give a good teaching to the kids, the teachers must have 10-15 years of religious education, and even that is not enough to understand deeply one religion.

So it is better if parents and the religious community teach their own kids about religion.

I don't say that there should be teachers to teach every religion in the schools. I say that there should be seminars in the schools/colleges where representatives of religions/no-religions should give lectures on the selected topics and then there should be a question answer provision for the students. These seminars should be moderators of the City officials. Right?

Regards

 

[Spirit of Light]

I don't say that there should be teachers to teach every religion in the schools. I say that there should be seminars in the schools/colleges where representatives of religions/no-religions should give lectures on the selected topics and then there should be a question answer provision for the students. These seminars should be moderators of the City officials. Right?

Regards

Yes, it is better if someone who practices the religion on a deeper level every day come to the schools to have lectures, But I do not think city/politics should moderate these lectures.

 

[Milton Platt]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




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I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

I've heard of all of those people and movemnets. I don't consider it "religious education" to learn about historical figures and groups.

 

[Shad]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




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I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

Literally nothing of substance. The names of a few god from Egypt, Greece, etc. Theology only related to the Pyramids. Nothing east of Babylon/Persia. This was the Canadian system. Self-education did more in 1 year than public provided in 11

 

[paarsurrey]

Yes, it is better if someone who practices the religion on a deeper level every day come to the schools to have lectures, But I do not think city/politics should moderate these lectures.

Somebody has to manage such events to provide equitable opportunity to every religion/no-religion that is interested in the event. These things could be sorted between the school/colleges and the cities locally. Right, please?

Regards

 

[MikeDwight]

ya so who's family ever didn't know themselves anyway? hey we're here in this state, is anybody unaware of mlk jr invasion and revolutionary invaders and religion? I can explain any gaps any families are missing.

 

[Spirit of Light]

ya so who's family ever didn't know themselves anyway? hey we're here in this state, is anybody unaware of mlk jr invasion and revolutionary invaders and religion? I can explain any gaps any families are missing.

You speak only of one state in America? What about the rest of the world? We do live religious lives outside of America too.

 

[paarsurrey]

You speak only of one state in America? What about the rest of the world? We do live religious lives outside of America too.

Yes, we here in this forum discuss "Science and Religion" and these exist in the whole world not just in America.Why prefer America, please?

Regards

 

[MikeDwight]

Amanaki is so DOGMATIC about a personal EXPERIENCE of religion, why if you ever become a Christian, please come try our homespun revivalist, evangelist, Pentecostal, born-again, active conversion America. We're obviously talking more of the prestige of all Britain, isn't King Henry the receiver of the Pope's "Defender of the Faith" , by irony, I t seems, the weaker Reformed Presbyterian Church tries to grant the Monarch "Defender of the Faith" on their ascension. Same for Every Government that has ever been tied to religion, we are purely talking about the morals, the outlook, the religion we uphold with the state. That is the typical and traditional formula that has fallen over. The King and the Bishop of France went down holding hands, metaphorically, and the Patriarch of Russia and the Emperor went down tied at the waist.

 

[MikeDwight]

Where do science and religion necessarily meet in your country? Are you this Iranian physicist designing the gyro platform for a muslim astronaut to pray toward mecca while in the International Space station? I've heard stories about that one.

 

[MikeDwight]

Where would the States or America for that matter, have an Establishmentarian position, to charge you with the Correct Church every Sunday, and to their moral ideals? The Constitution. If they went to educating us further it would be completely clear.

"US Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America
Confederate Constitution
We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government,establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity — invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God — do ordain and establish this Constitution for theConfederate States of America.
Alabama Constitution
We the people of the State of Alabama, in order to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution and form of government for the State of Alabama. "

Then the Scottish Presbyterianism that should extend to Alabama and other Geographical Presbyterianisms, is Established in Alabama, besides they wrote the Bonnie Blue Flag to the God of Our Fathers, the Covenanters, along side this Confederate Constitution, that the Alabama Constitution copies 40 years later. They completed all these works together in the capitol building attacked by ecumenical forces.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




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I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

I live in Belgium.
Not sure how it is today, but back in my day when I attended public school, there wasn't ANY religious class.

If parents of kids attending public school wanted their kids to get religious classes, they were free to do that on their own time, wherever they pleased and pay for it themselves.

As it should be, imo.

Public school in a secular society has no business teaching any religion.

 

[Wu Wei]

my religious education in public schools was virtually none, that was left up to Sunday school, and my parents, and it was in NYS, way back in the 1960s

 

[MikeDwight]

that makes little sense you guys. you guys are trying to box in the religious education concept. Did they say look out for the superstitions or any religious education like that?

 

[Spirit of Light]

that makes little sense you guys. you guys are trying to box in the religious education concept. Did they say look out for the superstitions or any religious education like that?

You asked in the OP what our experience with education in school was, so we explain what they were teaching at the time we went to school. we can not answer what they wanted it was thinking the education should contain or how it was meant to affect us. We can only answer how we learned or did not learn.

Or did i misunderstand your OP?

 

[MikeDwight]

You asked in the OP what our experience with education in school was, so we explain what they were teaching at the time we went to school. we can not answer what they wanted it was thinking the education should contain or how it was meant to affect us. We can only answer how we learned or did not learn.

Or did i misunderstand your OP?

I was Tested went I went to school. Tests are objective-based. They are black and white. You suggest you had no terms in school of a single person ever that was ever religious ever. Johann Sebastian Bach. I think that's ridiculous. I think that's boxing in the idea of a Public School education in Religion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I was Tested went I went to school. Tests are objective-based. They are black and white. You suggest you had no terms in school of a single person ever that was ever religious ever. Johann Sebastian Bach. I think that's ridiculous. I think that's boxing in the idea of a Public School education in Religion.

I asked my teachers if they were religious or not, and none of them said they were religious, so I asked, why are you teaching religion you do not believe in, and they answered me because the government said we must teach you kids about religion. But they self knew just as little as the students. They only read from the books given to them.
To me, that is not religious teaching.

 

[MikeDwight]

that is literally the theological arguments today. Did William the Conqueror bring Christ's government to England, and did their government services mainly include a Church for the poor and a monastery of education? So Peter denied Christ 3 times, and you find that interesting. There's literally a Class you Had been given by the Government School on education, which is the Only thing I was looking for in the thread, and you lied about it, because of your feeling on it.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

I've come on an alarming realization, possibly condemnable upon my person. Everyone could help me out with a simple questionnaire. Please indicate which of the listed items, and fill in as miscellaneous where applicable, that you remember highlighted terms in your public education, and list the state in which that Grade School , Elementary-High School religious education took place. I'll provide my example at the bottom.
Thanks for participating.

1. 95 theses
2. Oliver Cromwell
3. Calvinism
4. King Henry VIII
5. Anne Boleyne
6. (loosely the Pope/Catholocism)
7. Byzantine Empire
8. Stonewall Jackson
9. Martin Luther
10. Queen Catherine (of Aragorn)
11. Queen Isabella
12. Lutheranism (More Specifically)
13. Quakers
14. Puritans/Colony of New England/Thanksgiving


I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama




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I Highly Suspect state textbooks are dividing the country. I'm entirely for my state, BUT, not at the expense of assuming unAmerican education! Thanks for responses. Or, if you want to comment, that's fine.

Public school in Ohio was where I got my elementary through high-school education.

We may have touched on number 4, briefly, and the rest I assure you I had never even heard of from my teachers throughout that entire time. I didn't come in contact with any hard-line religious educational information until I was out of the public school system and looking into these things on my own. And that mostly because a bunch of people around me were making all sorts of religious claims I had barely heard of, and I wanted to know the source and validity.

I am an atheist - and in part that could very well be because when I was finally introduced to many religious concepts I was no longer a child - no longer as credulous or unquestioning as I certainly was during those formative years.