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What we'll evolve to ?

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I just had an interesting thought. We actually have evolved as the homosapien species, and we are today. Evolution is not just our biology, but our cognitive minds as well as our consciousness. That sort of evolution moves at a much faster rate that biology. And if we compare where we are today in our stages of consciousness development we are considerably beyond where we were even a thousand years ago, let alone 10,000 years ago. You should refer to Jean Gebser's work for more information on this specifically outlining the stages from archaic, to magic, to mythic, to rational, to intergral: http://www.gaiamind.org/Gebser.html

So to answer your question, we will have evolved beyond killing each other over such things as religious differences. We will have evolved to the point where we are in control of our minds and impulses and no longer believe magic forces control our worlds or our destinies, leaving such fantasies in our early childhoods.

Do you think we'll be physically the same, bipedal, the way we speak and communicate, the
way we think..etc
 

Harvey Meale

New Member
I think it might be doubtful that we survive another 100k years. To answer the question though, my answer would be "taller".
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
It’s impossible to predict how evolution will proceed and this is complicated by the fact that we technologically influence so many of the factors ourselves (and will likely do so even more in the future). We medically treat or mitigate the outcomes of genetic anomalies which might otherwise die out and we are even starting to directly make genetic changes ourselves. We also significantly change and manage our living environment which would normally be a significant driver of evolution. Another factor is that the entire human population is evermore interconnected, leading to more crossbreeding and fewer genetically isolated populations. Overall, I guess this would reduce the pace of overall change.

Other than some kind of disaster massively reducing the world population and/or pushing back our technological advances, the only viable driver for change I could see would be if humans colonised another planet. This would create a separate group in a different environment who, over many generations, would evolve separately to humans on Earth. Given enough time (of the kind of scale we’re talking about here) and limited crossbreeding, they could even reach the point of a separate sub-species or even full species.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
One thing it's worth noting is that there is no reason to assume our evolution will be 'positive'. For example, if our air quality deteriorates, or we manage to unleash radiation into the atmosphere, we might find ourselves evolving in wholly unexpected ways. Heck, if enough people get ugly mutations, I predict Phil will renounce his celibacy, and one more become a sex god.
 

Banjankri

Active Member
Assuming that the evolution of Humans came from Apes, so what humans
will look like after 100,000 years based on our modern scientific knowledge.
It's difficult to predict how will humans evolve if we don't know how will we behave in 50 years from now. What we can know for sure, is that we will receive additional inner voice with extensive knowledge about the world. This will limit thinking. We will automate most of things, which will limit doing. Our demand for energy will significantly decease, and the role of limbs will be limited. At some point, it will become a the brain in a vat.
Anyway, this evolution will probably be stopped at some point by machines, which will develop their own necro-evolution. At the end, there will be only machines fighting each other for energy.
I think that there are vast numbers of such necro-civilizations running around the cosmos.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Do you think we'll be physically the same, bipedal, the way we speak and communicate, the
way we think..etc
Let's put it this way, if our species evolves into a different species, that species will no longer be homosapiens. I'm not sure there is anyway to predict which forms emerge before the pattern is laid down.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Evolution is reactive. Unless you can predict what environment an organism will have to deal with there's no way even to guess what changes will be wrought.

Some current trends, though:
Decreased intelligence, memory and general health: Useless traits tend to be eliminated, especially if they're socially or metabolically costly.
Useful inventions and techniques are immediately distributed throughout the population, conferring no reproductive benefit to the inventors. There is no longer any selective advantage to intelligence, indeed, there now seems to be an inverse relationship between competence or intelligence and reproductive success -- evolution's driving force.
Likewise, disability is no longer a barrier to reproduction. The weak, the nearsighted, the lame -- all equally as likely as the strong and healthy to pass these traits on.

Information Technology: We're increasingly dependent on and interacting with "intelligent" devices. Schools are no longer teaching writing. Google is eliminating the need to memorise -- or even learn -- anything.
We are rapidly becoming Borg. Resistance seems futile. We're all being assimilated.

Dawn of the Anthropocene epoch: In just a few thousand years we've managed to remove ourselves from the normal checks and balances of Nature and become a planetary infection. We stand at the beginning of the 6th Mass Extinction. What this will wreak God only knows, but if the previous extinctions are any indicators our future looks bleak.
 
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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
It makes sense to say cars evolved from carriage, cars models are still the same cars.

Humans of today is different than the last common ancestor of humans and Apes.

image_1680-Paranthropus-boisei.jpg

Yet, it is still an ape. A great ape to be precise.
In the same wat we are still mammals, even if very different from the common ancestor of humans and chimps (also a mammal).

Ciao

- viole
 

Aset's Flames

Viperine Asetian
Assuming that the evolution of Humans came from Apes, so what humans
will look like after 100,000 years based on our modern scientific knowledge.

Humans did not come from apes.

Humans and apes bodies came from a common ancestor with features that we both share and some features now exclusive to both of us.

Our bodies can change in numerous ways but in our current environment our physical evolutionary processes have slowed. Most first worlders are in an eviroment where you can make multiple mistakes and live, in fact most of the "unfit" in society are the ones that pass on the most genetic information.
 

Aset's Flames

Viperine Asetian
Evolution is reactive. Unless you can predict what environment an organism will have to deal with there's no way even to guess what changes will be wrought.

Some current trends, though:
Decreased intelligence, memory and general health: Useless traits tend to be eliminated, especially if they're socially or metabolically costly.
Useful inventions and techniques are immediately distributed throughout the population, conferring no reproductive benefit to the inventors. There is no longer any selective advantage to intelligence, indeed, there now seems to be an inverse relationship between competence or intelligence and reproductive success -- evolution's driving force.
Likewise, disability is no longer a barrier to reproduction. The weak, the nearsighted, the lame -- all equally as likely as the strong and healthy to pass these traits on.

Information Technology: We're increasingly dependent on and interacting with "intelligent" devices. Schools are no longer teaching writing. Google is eliminating the need to memorise -- or even learn -- anything.
We are rapidly becoming Borg. Resistance seems futile. We're all being assimilated.

Dawn of the Anthropocene epoch: In just a few thousand years we've managed to remove ourselves from the normal checks and balances of Nature and become a planetary infection. We stand at the beginning of the 6th Mass Extinction. What this will wreak God only knows, but if the previous extinctions are any indicators our future looks bleak.

I agree, humans are now the most destructive force in known existance.

We stopped having the liberty of being irresponsible when we developed ways to destroy all known life.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Assuming that the evolution of Humans came from Apes, so what humans
will look like after 100,000 years based on our modern scientific knowledge.
Dunno, but admittedly it is fun to think about it.

I would think our brain capacity would increase and our dependency on tech and automation would affect our physical characteristics greatly.

Of course our manipulation of the environment and genetic sciences could take us in directions we likely would never dream of as to how we would actually look and function.

Sometimes I think our appearance would be so drastically altered, that we might not be recognisable physically as humans by today's standards.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Dunno, but admittedly it is fun to think about it.

I would think our brain capacity would increase and our dependency on tech and automation would affect our physical characteristics greatly.
Why would our brain capacity increase? What would drive such a change? There is no selective pressure for it.
In actual fact, our mental capacities are decreasing.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Assuming that the evolution of Humans came from Apes, so what humans
will look like after 100,000 years based on our modern scientific knowledge.
My hope is that eventually humans will become an intelligent species. Given some of the comments in this thread, to date, I'm not holding my breath that it will be anytime soon. Based on the previous track record we will likely look similar to how we look now, after all, 100,000 years isn't too long in evolutionary time scales.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why would our brain capacity increase? What would drive such a change? There is no selective pressure for it.
In actual fact, our mental capacities are decreasing.
It could decrease depending on various factors over time. Evoultion is never one way. It's hard to argue that in light of how right now, society has become so stagnated and obtuse when it comes to brand new and unique innovation and development we may very well have entered an evolutionary plateau.

Then again, as dynamic changes in climate, and our physical landscape continues to reform over time , it very well may bring in a resurgence for which we adapt and evolve further by using our brains to solve our problems and issues in ways it becomes a new step on the evolutionary ladder or still, as you say, things could simply regress giving way to whatever other life form that adapts faster and better than we can.

Maybe another primate within million of years will take the "lead" or something else? Who knows? Maybe we will go the way of the dinosaurs?

Planet of the Apes? *Grin*
 
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