what would i be classed as

[manc]

i was brought up as a catholic but after reading and watching many things about religion in general ,i dont believe any of them are true.
i believe its possible some religions could have been based on fact at one time or another but through human greed etc they have been corrupted along the way.

i believe its possible there is a god but i dont believe in any of the religions,does that make me an agnostc theist ???????.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Potentially, or perhaps a believer in a non revealed religion... or deism, monism, pantheism, panentheism... there are a whole range of theological positions that are compatible with your description so far.

 

[Breathe]

i was brought up as a catholic but after reading and watching many things about religion in general ,i dont believe any of them are true.
i believe its possible some religions could have been based on fact at one time or another but through human greed etc they have been corrupted along the way.

i believe its possible there is a god but i dont believe in any of the religions,does that make me an agnostc theist ???????.

Welcome to RF.

We have a seekers DIR for this, if you feel more comfortable there. I can move it, if that is your wish. You could be a Deist. Also, it depends how you feel about other religions. There are lots of them.

What is your opinion about the nature of God, the afterlife, and so on?

 

[HonestJoe]

You're "manc", which is a term defined to describe the unique set of beliefs held by you.

Seriously, while what you describe could be made to fit various flavours of agnosticism, do such generic labels really matter? In my experience, they cause more trouble than they're worth. Just be you and work from there.

 

[manc]

Welcome to RF.

We have a seekers DIR for this, if you feel more comfortable there. I can move it, if that is your wish. You could be a Deist. Also, it depends how you feel about other religions. There are lots of them.

What is your opinion about the nature of God, the afterlife, and so on?

i dont believe any religion is true TBH,as i said before i believe its possible there could be a god and afterlife (i hope its true) but i believe that most if not all religions are made up.

Seriously, while what you describe could be made to fit various flavours of agnosticism, do such generic labels really matter?

not really i was just interested in were i would be pidgeon-holed.

BTW thank you for your replies and welcome.

 

[Breathe]

i dont believe any religion is true TBH,as i said before i believe its possible there could be a god and afterlife (i hope its true) but i believe that most if not all religions are made up.

Consider Deism, then.

 

[manc]

Consider Deism, then.

hmmm just read up on that sounds similar to my thinking,thank you for that.
i do believe that religions preach some good but its been corrupted by fanatics,and the fact is we dont need a "religion" to tell us whats good and bad.

 

[Breathe]

hmmm just read up on that sounds similar to my thinking,thank you for that.
i do believe that religions preach some good but its been corrupted by fanatics,and the fact is we dont need a "religion" to tell us whats good and bad.

You're welcome.

For the record, I don't believe we need religion to tell us what is good or bad. I understand that religion has some fanatics, but I don't think that's a reason to avoid it. On the contrary, IMO, it's all the more reason to get involved, to stop them from influencing people. Fanatics are a tiny number of people, who generally share no similarities to your average religious next door (or, in England, up the street).

 

[manc]

You're welcome.

For the record, I don't believe we need religion to tell us what is good or bad. I understand that religion has some fanatics, but I don't think that's a reason to avoid it. On the contrary, IMO, it's all the more reason to get involved, to stop them from influencing people. Fanatics are a tiny number of people, who generally share no similarities to your average religious next door (or, in England, up the street).

TBH i dont feel the need to get involved,i belive if there is a god or higher being and an afterlife,and you lead your life in a good way,then surely you would go to heaven or wherever

 

[Breathe]

TBH i dont feel the need to get involved,i belive if there is a god or higher being and an afterlife,and you lead your life in a good way,then surely you would go to heaven or wherever

I don't disagree with you, but that isn't what I was saying anyway.

 

[nnmartin]

Deism seems to be where it's at with me.

I believe in parts of all religions plus some of my own ideas.

it's the spiritual side of the main religions that appeal but all the dogma and orthodoxy just seems way too manufactured.

There is something out there I'm sure but no-one really knows what it is.

 

[Breathe]

Deism seems to be where it's at with me.

I believe in parts of all religions plus some of my own ideas.

it's the spiritual side of the main religions that appeal but all the dogma and orthodoxy just seems way too manufactured.

There is something out there I'm sure but no-one really knows what it is.

Sounds good to me.
I have a lot of admiration for Deism.

I'm sure you're aware that the dogma and orthodoxy is just from society and time, though. Can't have a religion without culture, I guess.

 

[Kerr]

i was brought up as a catholic but after reading and watching many things about religion in general ,i dont believe any of them are true.
i believe its possible some religions could have been based on fact at one time or another but through human greed etc they have been corrupted along the way.

i believe its possible there is a god but i dont believe in any of the religions,does that make me an agnostc theist ???????.

When you say you believe its a possibility there is a god, do you mean you believe there is a god but you dont claim to actually know if there is or is not a god? Theism implies a belief in a god (asking because I am not completely sure I understand your position, from your post, so sorry if I am being slow).

I would say its definately a possibility that you are an agnostic theist. I am an agnostic atheist. I dont believe in a god, but I dont claim to actually know if there is one or not.

EDIT:

After doing what I do best, namely to respond to the OP and then read the rest of the thread, I must say that I really need to learn to read the thread first . Deism might be right for you, and if not there are a bunch of people on here that knows about more things you can check out. Hope you find what you are looking for .

 

[HerDotness]

Manc sounds like me several years ago.

My current idea of "God" (meaning a being encompassing any lesser deities) is that it's not a personal-type being at all but rather a massive energy force which spins off souls that become new people--in rare instances today because most of us are reborn and living a series of lifetimes. This energy source is what started it all way back when. Creation accounts in various cultures are no more than people's attempt to explain how it all got here--just as mine is.

I think there might be lesser spirit beings that are just as natural in origin as humans, but these beings differ in that they do not have physical bodies; they exist as energy or what we call spirits. These are what we mean when we say there are angels or demons, because some have such different natures from ours that they seem evil to us.

I also believe it possible that the spirit of deceased people can be "caught" or choose to remain near some location important in some way to the person while alive. Ghosts, in other words.

Weird, huh?

Just think it through, Manc, would be my advice and do as I did--study lots of different beliefs and decide if any work for you, or if you want to tinker with them a bit to get to a system that makes sense. "Create-a-religion," in other words, one that satisfies you and the hey with what anyone else thinks of it.

When asked, I refer to myself as an agnostic atheist because my ideas of gods are so unusual, and I'm open to proof that any such do exist while believing they probably don't--not even mine.
< Big Grin >

 

[beerisit]

Here's a tip.
Don't care what people "class you as".

 

[manc]

beerisit
i dont,im just curious as to what i would be classed as.
kerr...Her Dotness.
thanks for your replies and advice.
the thing is i would love there to be a god or afterlife,and i believe it is a possibility but im not sure.
what i do believe is that most religions i know of are either made up or been changed/corrupted so much that they dont resemble the original religion.

 

[Breathe]

beerisit
i dont,im just curious as to what i would be classed as.
kerr...Her Dotness.
thanks for your replies and advice.
the thing is i would love there to be a god or afterlife,and i believe it is a possibility but im not sure.
what i do believe is that most religions i know of are either made up or been changed/corrupted so much that they dont resemble the original religion.

Consider Deism, then. It's not bad at all. The only issues for me is that God doesn't interact (thus, no need to pray) and many nowadays don't believe in an afterlife.

Or, if you want community, as you're in England, consider the Unitarians. Some of them are quite liberal in their theology.

Unitarians: What we believe
Deist Document

 

[manc]

Consider Deism, then. It's not bad at all. The only issues for me is that God doesn't interact (thus, no need to pray) and many nowadays don't believe in an afterlife.

Or, if you want community, as you're in England, consider the Unitarians. Some of them are quite liberal in their theology.

thanks for the info,not sure if i want to join any group etc TBH but i would certainly listen to what they have to say.
im happy to "try" to treat everyone as i would like to be treated,but its nice to believe there is something else after this life hopefully.

 

[Breathe]

thanks for the info,not sure if i want to join any group etc TBH but i would certainly listen to what they have to say.
im happy to "try" to treat everyone as i would like to be treated,but its nice to believe there is something else after this life hopefully.

I understand.
I think, then, my original view is right: Deism is probably for you.

 

[manc]

I understand.
I think, then, my original view is right: Deism is probably for you.

i think you may be correct,its very similar to the way i think.
i hope there is an afterlife if there was a god im guessing thats possible,but if it was only a higher inteligence that created us,would they have the power/knowledge to give us an afterlife (not sure if i put that point across correctly???????)