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What would you do if you found him/her cheating?

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What about her?
I stood and saw my mistress dance,
Silent, and with so fixed an eye,
Some might suppose me in a trance :
But being askèd why,
By one who knew I was in love,
I could not but impart
My wonder, to behold her move
So nimbly with a marble heart.

-James Shirley
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Well.

First thngs first:

I would get emotionally destroyed.

Then I would probably GTFO, call some friends telling them to sell their souls for ice cream, whine a lot, and then get a lot of revenge sex.

The relationship would be over anyways though, so probably that part would be mostly self denial.

Best to know your partner doesn´t diserve you though.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I often wonder why people take out their anger over being cheated on at the lover instead of the spouse. As if it is the guy's fault your wife cheated on you, or the girl's fault your husband strayed. The blame lay with the spouse/partner and only with them. It's not as if they didn't have a choice. Unless they were actually raped it's not like they couldn't say "no, I'm married/involved, I'm not interested." Going after the lover is just ... dumb.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
To be fair Draka, one is probably not feeling like Einstein in those moments :D

though yeah, it would be bad if the "other" didn´t know your wife/gf/husband/etc was not available, but most cases, they are not inocent, and well, I can´t blame those kind of "dumb" punches.

Doubt I would do that, but gues I don´t know.

Ice cream is a sure bet though >_>
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
I often wonder why people take out their anger over being cheated on at the lover instead of the spouse. As if it is the guy's fault your wife cheated on you, or the girl's fault your husband strayed. The blame lay with the spouse/partner and only with them. It's not as if they didn't have a choice. Unless they were actually raped it's not like they couldn't say "no, I'm married/involved, I'm not interested." Going after the lover is just ... dumb.
I'm also surprised at the number of answers involving revenge and violence. Although fantasizing about it is different from reality.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I often wonder why people take out their anger over being cheated on at the lover instead of the spouse. As if it is the guy's fault your wife cheated on you, or the girl's fault your husband strayed. The blame lay with the spouse/partner and only with them. It's not as if they didn't have a choice. Unless they were actually raped it's not like they couldn't say "no, I'm married/involved, I'm not interested." Going after the lover is just ... dumb.

I suspect this is related to instinctual desires to safeguard a won mate.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I know it can be agonizing to be cheated on, but I think it's shameful to resort to violence in such a situation. Your life is not being threatened, and so you have no moral right to resort to violence.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Pphh.

I am not saying its okay to spray them with gasoline and let them burn, but hitting the guy until he is unconscious would not even by far make him have as much pain as you did. Let´s just not overestimate physical violence.

The psychological violence he incured was much greater. Again, I doubt I would get violent, but I´ve hardly blame anyone who would.
 

Me Myself

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Well, when I am saying violence I am not saying murder. I am plainly speaking of beating the guy unconscious. Or less.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Well, when I am saying violence I am not saying murder. I am plainly speaking of beating the guy unconscious. Or less.

If someone being cheated on beat someone else unconscious -- and they did not have the excuse that their life was in danger -- I think a few years in prison for them would be about fair.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
If someone being cheated on beat someone else unconscious -- and they did not have the excuse that their life was in danger -- I think a few years in prison for them would be about fair.

I guess we´ll just disagree then.

If he can´t stand a little physical pain after the "·R%! he makes other suffer psychologically will stay with them for long time not to mention the thraumas he shouldn´t have started to do what he was doing in the first place.

The way I see it, getting beated up is around the least he can do. Not even all the anger will be set free from the guy making the beating, but geez, at least some. And at least rightly so.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
How is it rightly so? Firstly, you don't know what your gf/spouse told the guy. She could have said she's single, divorced, kicked you out cause you beat her up, anything. He may know nothing about you at all. She could have come on to him. Picked him up while he was drunk and told him anything just to have a romp. Why blame the guy at all when you don't know anything? He could be just as clueless and used as you. Your wife may just be the dirty manipulative ho-ho that used the poor guy. You simply don't know anything other than your wife chose to be unfaithful to you...and isn't that on her?
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
It's more reasonable to give your spouse a fist or two. He or she clearly, knowingly cheated. The other person's ignorance is up for question, assuming it's not a close friend.

I'm pretty sure a one time non-meditated assault is only a misdemeanor. I think that's fair. The person is not a threat to society at large.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
There are consequences for all actions. Assaulting him or her or the other partner may do more damage to the relationship than the affair itself (not to mention the legal issues). If you love your partner enough to be furiously jealous over an affair you may want to think about what affect violence is going to have over the relationship. While your lover may have been the one cheating, your reaction is going to affect the relationship just as much if not more.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Frankly, in that situation - with her not only cheating but taking pleasure in using it to hurt me - the relationship would be done. I wouldn't be concerned with any harm I'd do to the relationship with my response, because at that point, there would be no relationship any more.
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
There are consequences for all actions. Assaulting him or her or the other partner may do more damage to the relationship than the affair itself (not to mention the legal issues). If you love your partner enough to be furiously jealous over an affair you may want to think about what affect violence is going to have over the relationship. While your lover may have been the one cheating, your reaction is going to affect the relationship just as much if not more.

I've been cheated on and never resorted to violence simply because my instincts tell me to just walk off and never say a word to them again, but I would only advise a friend to not strike because of the legal repercussions, not any ethical qualms.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I've been cheated on and never resorted to violence simply because my instincts tell me to just walk off and never say a word to them again, but I would only advise a friend to not strike because of the legal repercussions, not any ethical qualms.

This.

About not knowing, well, I agree, if you don´t know you cant strike. I must admit I pictured some known figure in the bed, not a stranger, so yeah it´s different.

But I agree with the quoted remark in such case: It is good that law protects the ****** from being beaten up, because special clausules for this kind of cases are pretty much ridiculous. That said, I agree mostly cause of regulations and other burocratics involved. Moraly, he still dowes him to be the punching bag. It´s the very very least he can do. It´s not like getting sore a couple of days can equate the psychological thrauma anyways, so he pretty much owes it, wheter he likes it or not.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.

What if a couple has been married for 40 years? What if a spouse does not agree to a divorce?

Just how do you intend to force a spouse who has no intention of staying married to stay married? Why would you leave that decision to the government?

As you may know, I've been divorced twice. My first husband was very abusive. He absolutely did not agree to get divorced. He didn't want to give me a divorce. If I had had to prove all that abuse, it would have taken months, and I would have had to be married to him the entire time. I couldn't have forced him out of the house, or separated our bills legally, and I would have had to be legally married to him while facing him in court as I dragged all our ugliness out in front of the world - and our kids. No thank you. I don't owe the state an explanation or a waiting period when I want out of a relationship.

There are situations where a person has kept their vows. They have done nothing wrong. No fault divorce enables someone to divide their assets any time they like.

The other person doesn't have to agree with this. They can fight the divorce. They can fight the terms. "No Fault" divorce doesn't mean that a 50/50 split is a given - not at all. Most people who file and sign a no fault divorce agreement do it to avoid an ugly court battle over an inevitable relationship breakdown.

I'm sorry, thats not a marriage. A person who has done nothing wrong should not have to move or sell their house.

Or stay in a house or a marriage with an abuser who won't agree to a divorce without a battle in court, with a 13 month waiting period in which they can inflict all sorts of emotional and financial destruction.

Look, you can't force someone to stay in an unhappy marriage - at least I don't think the state should be able to force them to stay. It's a personal matter, not one for a bureaucracy to determine.

Your situation was different.

I think my situation was pretty typical actually.

Please try and look at this from my standpoint for just a minute.

I built my home.

I paid for my home.

It belongs to my wife and I because of marriage.

I raised my kids, I've paid all the bills, I've been a good husband and father.

It would not be fair to me to have to move and sell my home if I did not want a divorce providing I had done nothing wrong.

If my wife wakes up one morning and decides we should sell and divide everything, how would that be fair to me?

We should make decisions together, not one or the other.

Like I said, you can fight any divorce, including a no fault divorce. Just because a couple files for a no fault divorce doesn't mean the assets are split fifty fifty. You can file with your own reasons. But would you honestly want your wife to stay married to you when she wants desperately to leave? Now we're only arguing over the china.

A person who keeps their vows and is a good spouse should not have to pack their bags at the whim of another.

Right. You can refinance and keep the house. No one is saying you have to move. Heck, I didn't move when I filed for divorce from my first husband. I kept the house. We worked out the finances.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.

Trapped in a marriage sounds rather juvenile to me. It sounds like anyone who looks at marriage as a trap is code for not taking resonsibility for their agreements. What part of for better or worse did you not understand when you uttered those words?

Rick, you're a strong, independent business owner. You probably cannot relate well to a very young woman with several kids who realizes that she's financially and emotionally trapped in an abusive relationship.

Did you even mean those words when you spoke them? Perhaps you did not understand what you agreed to?

She probably didn't envision subtle...and then not so subtle...abuse being a part of marriage. Abuse is as much a mind game as it is actual physical violence.

This generation looks at marriage like a paper plate. Disposable marriage is not an improvement, it is the perfect example of not taking any responsibility for agreements.

No one takes marriage seriously any more why get married in the first place?

Before I went thru a divorce, I felt the same way. I was very judgmental of people who got divorced - after all, I was "sticking it out" in a living hell. Lord knows, if I could honor my marriage vows, anyone ought to be able to!

Only after I went thru a divorce, did I understand how gut wrenching, how heartbreaking, and how devastating it is - and not just the divorce, but the death of the marriage. I did NOT take the marriage, or the divorce, casually. I gave it my all - but as the old song goes, "But I guess my all wasn't good enough."

In fact, I was so devastated, that I made another bad decision, because I was so afraid of having to make it on my own with four small kids. I didn't address the emotional issues I had which attracted me to my first husband. I also didn't address the issues that living in an abusive marriage for eleven years causes. I married the first man I dated after that divorce. This is the man I caught cheating on me - ten years later. Actually, we had what I thought was a pretty good marriage - not without problems, but he was certainly not abusive. The cheating took me completely by surprise. I had been having some health issues for two years, and I guess he didn't find me attractive anymore.

But God is so good to me - and so forgiving and generous! After that second failed marriage, I realized I needed to get my head and my life together, which I did. It took work, and it took time, but I did it. When I got my head together, I set my standards VERY high for my next relationship. And I knew if I was going to have very high standards, I would also have to be worthy of that sort of man. I worked at reaching the high standards I would expect my future husband to expect in a wife.

Six years ago, I married a fine man. We have built a very good life together. We had both been down very similar paths and learned similar lessons and we greatly appreciate each other. We trust each other completely and are very grateful to God for this chance rather late in life to experience and enjoy a healthy relationship and marriage.
 
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