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whats up with the "Xtians"?????

Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Zardoz said:
You two play nice or you go in timeout.

Myself, I use Xian, and Xmas and G-d and Jay Witnesses, and a lot of other substitutions.

For reasons of my faith, not as insult. Feel insulted? Sorry, that's your problem, making assumptions.
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How about "Geesh?." I believe it is used most often as an epithet. Does that mean the peson is unfaithful or just vain?
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Ouroboros said:
Every time I see "X-ian", I read out in my mind "Ex-ian."

Now, if you're an ex-christian, would it be accurate to say you're an x-x-ian? Dos-Equis-ian?

Ah. Beer! Always the right answer.
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I don't believe one can "X" out an "X." I suppose one could surround it with an "O." Of course that could be viewed as a zero.
 
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philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
Muffled said:
I don't believe one can "X" out an "X." I suppose one could surround it with an "O." Of course that could be viewed as a zero.
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Well, if you were to cross one out, it'd be an ex-X, but if that didn't seem ex-X enough, and you put an "O" round it, woud that make it an ex-ex-X? Then scribble the whole lot out and you have an Australian beer :)
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Muffled said:
If it is a stranger I believe in wishng him a Happy holiday. If I know a person is a fellow Christian I wish him a Merry Christmas. I wish my JW brother-in-law a Merry Chrstmas and polay Christmas music on the radio because I enjoy bugging him about it since they don't celebrate it.
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Hi.....
Wow...! ....... It's so different here.
Most of us in Kent, England, wish 'Merry Christmas and Happy Easter to everybody!' I've never heard anybody complain in my life ........ a thermometer to show how much we use 'Christmas' as a term is evident in the size of our Christmas (and Easter) card retail displays. HUGE! :)
I have a habit of wishing everybody 'God Bless you' when I think it's appropriate, even though I know that's unlikely for them (I'm a Deist!), and the only person who has ever been contentious about that was a Plymouth Brethren.
In fact, our Equality Legislation even protects folks who wish to wear religious pendants, brooches and rings at work. There would have to be a Health and Safety reason for any refusal, these days.

Not many people go to Church here, but atheistic extremism is as unwelcome here as religious extremism, on average.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Carlita said:
Unless they give reason that X is more appropriate Latin for Christs name. Non christians, I dont see a problem. It just nags me. Call it a writers flaw.
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I knew an English guy whose pet peeve was that English people say 'P' instead of 'penny'!!
(How much did that cost? answer: 56p. )
He would sometimes go crazy, arguing that we never called the old (pre-decimal) penny a 'd', which is how our old currency was written, thus: £-s-d.
He would become white with anger sometimes.................. :D

There's nowt stranger 'n' folks!
 
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Deadtroopers

Member
Carlita said:
Naw. You should read Counte of Monte Christo by Alexandria Dumas. Cant tell you what happens but its well organized but you got to keep up. The full version isnt a fast-food read.
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philbo said:
Have you ever tried reading War and Peace? I was half-way through before I realized Prince Andrei, Andrei Nickolayevich, Andryusha, Andre and Andrei Bolkonsky were all the same person. It got terribly confusing.
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Hang on. You pair are coming dangerously close to talking about something sensible!:D
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
oldbadger said:
I knew an English guy whose pet peeve was that English people say 'P' instead of 'penny'!!
(How much did that cost? answer: 56p. )
He would sometimes go crazy, arguing that we never called the old (pre-decimal) penny a 'd', which is how our old currency was written, thus: £-s-d.
He would become white with anger sometimes.................. :D

There's nowt stranger 'n' folks!
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Haha. When you put it in that context, yeah, I can see how it would be a little too much. I never heard P for penny; that is new on me. ;)
 
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Deadtroopers

Member
NulliuSINverba said:
Is there any scriptural justification for an alleged general doctrine in Christian monotheism that prohibits writing the word "God" out in full? I'm not aware that God's actual name even is "God." And if we're obliged to leave letters out of His titles ... then (in addition to "G*d") allow me to introduce you to:

1.) The Alm*hty.
2.) Our L*rd And S*vior.
3.) Our L*rd.
4.) The S*vior.
5.) The Great * Am.

And are you suggesting that we bleep God's name out on screen? Like some sort of gutter profanity?



Again: Are there any explicit edicts in Christianity that forbid the word "God" from being written out in full? Could you cite them?

And if there are, don't they actually involve his actual name(s)?

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"You're only making it worse for yourself!"



Don't you mean "Chr*st?" And did Jesus J*s*s ever instruct folks to bowdlerize the spelling of his name? And to do so as a token of respect?

And if "Christian" isn't a holy word, why is "Christmas" a holy word?



1.) Some folks are not Christians, and have no problem with abbreviating the name of a holiday as a measure of expediency. These folks did not dream the "X" up, however. It has fallen to us from deep out of Christian tradition:

2.) The Chi Rho is viewed as a symbol of the Christian deity. The Roman Emperor Constantine (see "Saint Constantine") had it slapped all over his army right before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge (claiming that he'd received a vision - presumably from the Christian god - wherein he'd been told "in this sign you will conquer"). So it isn't really disrespectful. At all. Like .. not in the slightest.

If there are (some) Christians getting bent out of shape over our culture's use of "Xmas" in lieu of "Christmas," it's much more likely that:

1.) (some) Christians are evidently ignorant of the historic significance of the "X" as a symbol of their faith. And ...
2.) (some) Christians will seize any opportunity to publicly feel persecuted.

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And who could blame them?
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It's a complex that'd been infused into their religion's DNA long before Constantine legitimized the faith.

However, I feel no compulsion whatsoever to coddle them in their ignorance.
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The use of <wh*t*v*r> derives from the use of the substituting of Adonai (the Lord) for YHWH (God of Israel) when reading the Tanakh (Jewish Scripture) aloud. Mostly seen, as in your examples, applied to locutions that already get around the supposed blasphemy. It is an incorrect and stupid redundancy; even if the original Jewish reason for using Adonai for YHWH applied to Christianity. Which it doesn't.

Re. Persecution of Christians. Persecution before c.250AD and the Emperor Decius seems to be 95% unevidenced Xtian legend.
 
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Muffled said:
If it is a stranger I believe in wishng him a Happy holiday. If I know a person is a fellow Christian I wish him a Merry Christmas. I wish my JW brother-in-law a Merry Chrstmas and polay Christmas music on the radio because I enjoy bugging him about it since they don't celebrate it.
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Common ground! I too wish bugging & annoying JWs. I knew you couldn't be all bad!
 
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