This is false and denigrating rubbish:
It just garbage you've pulled out of your . . . animus.
Learn to recognize it. I assure you, you'll be happier.
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What's Wrong With Racism?
- Thread starter The Ardent Atheist
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It just garbage you've pulled out of your . . . animus.
Learn to recognize it. I assure you, you'll be happier.
The Ardent Atheist
Member
What else can you assure me of from within your home in white suburbia?
Obviously you know nothing about me.
Bigotry such as racism is a product of hatefulness and fueled by irrationality. You will be happier when (if) you let those those qualities go, rather than wallowing in them.
The Ardent Atheist
Member
You think you know everything about me, though.
The Ardent Atheist
Member
Here's why I dislike black people.
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Looks to me like she's the one who brought up race.
The Ardent Atheist
Member
The whole rally was about how blacks are victims of white oppression.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
Racism does not equal hate.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
I wonder what the bad racists will think about this.
Whoever said that human nature is always a good thing?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
In my book, yes it does. Even though the terms are not synonymous, degrading and demeaning another "race", nationality, religion, etc., is typically based on strong prejudice of a negative type, which is a form of hatred.
"Racism" is an evil in my book, and how many terrible consequences have been caused by racism? History well can attest to the answer of that question.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
"Racism" to me is simply "racial prejudice or discrimination". It does not have to only involve hate. It can also involve dislike, like, or love, or anything in between.
You're focusing on one kind of "racism" - hatred associated as a consequence of racial prejudice. Even then, there are two forms of "hatred because of racial prejudice". One can prejudge properly - with love, like, dislike, or hatred - according to prior experience. Or, one can prejudge improperly - also with love, like, dislike, or hatred - contrary to prior experience. I'm not speaking of the way that prejugment expresses itself externally.
As I've stated, "healthy racism" happens when someone is attracted to a race with which they've have a majority of positive experiences. Or, if someone is averse to a race with which they've had a majority of negative experiences.
"Unhealthy racism" happens when someone forces a guise of attraction (xenophilia), IMO usually because of political ideology, to a race with which they've personally had a majority of negative experiences. Or, forcing a guise of aversion (xenophobia) to a race with which they've personally had a majority of positive experiences.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
"Racism" is always used as a negative in anthropology, never a positive. There are other words for a positive slant, but one of them isn't "racism".
buddhist
Well-Known Member
Sorry, but I disagree. Firstly, "negative" or "positive" (judgments on the value of "racism" itself) does not equal "hatred" (a judgment on what constitutes the consequence of "racism"). Two different subjects altogether.
Secondly, the full definition of "racism" is this, according to Merriam-Webster:
"1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination"
2: racial prejudice or discrimination"
According to the first definition, one would like/love/be attracted to their "superior" race. According to the second definition, one can be predjudiced with either attraction or repulsion to a race according to preconceived notions of that race (whether or not those notions were true or false).
Look, humans should advise each other on things they think wrong, so here comes mine to you.
Try to not judge and treat people on their race. It's okay if you are racist and can't help it, and do racist acts that involve you only; e.g. avoid certain races, but it is wrong to allow this to make you do acts against certain races, like concretely judging wrongfully or do them injustice. It is wrong because at some point you could be the target of such acts and you know very well that you don't like this for your self or for those you love and care for.
We are humans and impressions have great effects on us, I agree. As long as your racism does not hurt others, I think it could be managed. Tho it would still be better to try to get rid of that feeling and belief. Skin color does not matter if we don't see the person. Their accents won't make a difference if we don't hear them talk. Think bout it. What make different races are just things we experience in the outside of the people. We all have blood, hearts, mood, feelings, and those all are basically the same. Looking at them instead of the shell, will make us understand and feel for each other better.
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Unveiled Artist
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This talks about not looking at race and that she has been hurt by "some" black people who tell her she doesnt belong here.
African Americans are minorities and a lot of Us get get the same treatment "go back to Africa". A lot of Africans dont like us either because some are inappropriately taking their culture and making it ours.
Then you have African Americans that are more centered around their own culture and are only racist against white people, not Asians, not Africans, not Cherokee.
Its a historical thing.
It does not give a person the right to be racist (find negativety against someone because of their race) as it hurts All people.
Im appalled that anyone would be racisr but thats that persons choice. We shouldnt judge based race, sex, class, etc.
We may decern people who we dont want to hang around with. For example, my intermidate family never called ourselves black and my mother didnt like us to hang out with "black" people. That made me shy away from stereotypical ways black people are betrayed....on tv...etc.
It hurts. I mean, Id never want to be part of a generation that considers racism as good or okay. Maybe like the video only people who gone through it understand the negative connotation of the term.
Like my other post, its not bad in and of itself. It holds a negative connotation that bypasses its "technical" definition. Id say just try not to judge people based on how you see them.
I dont understand how race itself can make people be antisocial. Personality yes. Sexuality even given people act different ways depending on how they identify themselves sexually. We are influenced by behavior.
But by race?
Me dont understand.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
Epigenetics.
The science of epigenetics has shown that behavioral traits can be inherited, such as via the activity of histones, from parent to child. In Buddhist terms, I would call this "kamma". It is one major force which compels people to demonstrate certain habits and behaviors (whether positive or negative) similar to the behaviors of their parents, siblings, extended family, etc.
Kamma and epigenetics are not fatalistic, however. Application of the higher, conscious will can override one's lower, instinctual impulses however. Or, it can be described as the process of using a "higher law" to countermand the effects of a "lower law", in magickal terms.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, if I say "Buddhist is a racist", you think that can be a positive? Or if I say "Buddhist is heavy into racism", do you think that can be a positive.
We also need to remember that when one "race" is condemned, the net effect is to upgrade another "race". However, whether it be common usage, or whether it be in anthropology, "racism" and "racist" are not used as a positive. If you don't agree, that's your choice of course, but I don't buy it. I never have read or heard anyone ever use "racism" or "racist" as any kind of compliment whatsoever, and I would challenge you to go through the many threads whereas either has been used and show me where someone did use either in any kind of complimentary way.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
You're arguing with the dictionary, not me.
Most people incorrectly use the word "racism" or "racist" in terms of the commonly seen effects/consequences of "racism", not in the correct way (regarding the process of discrimination itself).
"Racism" itself can be healthy or unhealthy. The effects & consequences of racism can also be healthy or unhealthy.