rojse
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Talking to your television must be a sign of insanity.
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What's wrong with sex?
- Thread starter science_is_my_god
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Talking to your television must be a sign of insanity.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Did you have a Colecovision and a Commodore 64 as well? Those along with my Atari made up our trifecta of entertainment when I was a child. :yes:
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
No Colecovision, but a Commodore 64 yes.
Buttons*
Glass half Panda'd
I think that telling your kid "No" for no reason is a stupid answer. But I think that if you tell your kids, "You do realize that there are dangers out there, and you will have to handle the consequences for your actions." Then it's fair enough if they go out and do whatever. They can't claim ignorance for it. I think parents should be the first ones to talk with their kids about sex. Not the TV, not public schools.
No, I do think that if bad things happen to sexually irresponsible teens, all I can say to them is, "Well, you knew better, now you must live with the consequences." It's a harsh view, and one that not many people agree with me on. It's the same with drugs : you make your bed, and you should sleep in it.
Not to say that if someone needs help, you shouldn't help, but I believe in personal responsibility and accounting for your own actions.
Buttons*
Glass half Panda'd
science_is_my_god
Philosophical Monist
Hahaha that's rich. You still say "most adults" and "Usually say."I hope you realize why you can't make a generalization here, because once you do, you will understand what I am basing my arguement on.
Exactly. that's why abstinence has it's flaws. Also, proving my point, that is why sex is something between parents and kids, not a third party such as school or TV.
Minors don't need supervision because they are minors, minors need supervision because 99% of them are reckless. However, I just want people to be aware that there still is that remaining 1% of teens that are legitimently adults, in the sense that they are very matureand resposible. You know, I think kids can be MORE mature than adults sometimes.
Why? How so? They are going to do it behind my back if they want it bad enough anyway. I'd rather establish open mindedness so that my kids can feel comfortable with me knowing what's going on, that way, if anything gets out of control, I know how to react.
Sigh. It's not my fault I'm such a stud.
Yes I'm offended, but no, it's not illogical. Look at me. I had sex early (age 14, just for the record) and yet:
1. No babies
2. No STD's
3. Only one partner (still my girlfriend 5 years later)
4. No psychological damage (to me OR my girl)
5. No sexed-based relationship (still founded on love; I made it clear even at age 14 sex can wait and she doesn't have to give me some to keep the relationship going.)
Now, you know, I think 5 years together is pretty darn good, considering most marriages don't even last that long anymore.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I knew you atheists were sickos, but I just didn't know how much.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Apparently, you had MUCH better sex ed than I did. Mine consisted of "condoms don't work."
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Mine consisted of the typical line-drawing diagrams of the reproductive system and learning the names of each element. And something about nocturnal emissions. It was ever so enlightening.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Ever heard of The Education Of Shelby Knox? We went to the same high school.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Now I have!
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
Yes I'm offended, but no, it's not illogical. Look at me. I had sex early (age 14, just for the record) and yet:
1. No babies
2. No STD's
3. Only one partner (still my girlfriend 5 years later)
4. No psychological damage (to me OR my girl)
5. No sexed-based relationship (still founded on love; I made it clear even at age 14 sex can wait and she doesn't have to give me some to keep the relationship going.)
Now, you know, I think 5 years together is pretty darn good, considering most marriages don't even last that long anymore.
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Ya'll sound wonderful..
And also very lucky .
You are beating the odds though.
This :
Is not within your control.Thats not only your decision..That takes two.and at 14..the odds that both will stay committed long term are not very good.Im assuming she has not had any other partners either durign your relationship.And had she dumped you say at 14 and 1/2(which is a far more likely scenerio at that age) ..you most likely would have found another girl...and so on and so on..
This you can only claim if she in fact didnt 'give you any all these years..or if she stopped giving you some now..
This again is not something you "controlled" on your own..If your girlfriend had jerked you around..say ..slept with your best friend..you would have been deeply hurt.(you said your relationship was love based).
Ya''ll lucked out as I say..that you found each other.It sounds as if you are a very good match.Your parents raised ya'll well..but your relationship is "unique.
Love
Dallas
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DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
Mine too..
And then my mother gave us the "Encyclopedia of Sex"(for children) (I still have them.they are from the 70's I'll have to get them out for a laugh)...She gave them to us and said nothing..just read these if you want..after she found a "dirty magazine" that my brother found in a parking lot next to a dumpster hidden under his pillow(he was probably 12)..she almost passed out..she told us the pictures were not what "two people that love each other and are married do with each other"
Love
Dallas
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
Its funny you say this..I dont know if I had ever even heard the word "condom" untill after I had a baby..I knew them as "rubbers" ..and I only knew that because thats what the kids called them.
I knew the words ovary and uterus and penis and vagina though..that shoud have been enough.
Love
Dallas
science_is_my_god
Philosophical Monist
So what? All that proves is that the odds CAN be beaten and sex CAN be healthy early on.
Relevance? :sarcastic In case you havn't read Dallas, we ARE still together. The "what ifs?" didn't happen to us, so if we can do it, other teens can. That's all im implying.
You don't find it reasonable to be able to found a relationship on love and authentic compassion, and then have sex later on? Dallas, that is very hurtful. Do you want to know how we met? She suffers from chronic depression, and I was volunteering in a mental health outreach program (my mother is schizophernic, and I wanted to help the community.)I was doing a fund raising thing where we would buy hospitalized mental health patients get well gifts. I went to drop off her gift and I heard crying and crying and crying. She had been raped. I went in and, against my better judgement, offered my condolences. She was so surprised that a complete stranger was willing to sit down and just listen. Ever since that day, she has done a 180 degree recovery. So no, Dallas, our relationship WAS founded on love, and I find any doubt in this to be quite offensive and bigoted, as you are not me nor her.
Sure I would have. But don't forget, I also would have learned a valueable lesson. Sometimes, there is value in experiencing pain and grief. This is life, Dallas, it's not some romantic la-la land where every day is bright and sunny.
Ah, so we just got lucky huh? Well I don't believe in luck. We took control of our destiny together, and don't you forget it.
Thank you.
Actually, my mom was schizophernic and in and out of institutions. My father was a hopeless, jobless drunk. Like I said, there is value in walking through life by yourself.
Maybe one day you'll realize that every relationship is unique...
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
:biglaugh:
Our sex ed went over all the different STDs, symptoms of each etc. Also included at one point learning how to use a condom, by putting a condom on a dildo. Was fairly comprehensive actually.
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
Of course the odds can be beat..the odds can be beat with just about anything except we're all going to die..That doesnt mean you use "exceptions" as a teaching method on how to conduct your life.
Thats like telling people to go ahead and smoke ..because some people live to be 110 that smoke all thier life and then die by getting hit by a bus.
Love
Dallas