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whats your beef with brexit?

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
And the relevance to Brexit?????????

Why isn't Stephen Yaxley-Lennon hounding him on his doorstep.
btw If he has done what is alleged, I condemn him unreservedly. I never did like him after he cosied up to Trump about 10-years ago.

ECB President Draghi: "European politicians are free to criticize us and we are free not to listen to them".

EU=Banking dictatorship
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
And the relevance to Brexit?????????

Why isn't Stephen Yaxley-Lennon hounding him on his doorstep.
btw If he has done what is alleged, I condemn him unreservedly. I never did like him after he cosied up to Trump about 10-years ago.

He is another that preaches from parliament, telling others to do the right thing while all the time he is doing the wrong thing.

Give me ten Tommy Robinsons to one of his kind any day.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
He is another that preaches from parliament, telling others to do the right thing while all the time he is doing the wrong thing.

Give me ten Tommy Robinsons to one of his kind any day.
I stand to be corrected but he isn't an MP, MPS or anything, is he. He retired/stood down
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
This is what the Remoaners beloved EU is like in reality. What a one sided love affair some people have with their dominant partner.


George and Jeff give the most clarification on Brexit.


Some of the MP’s have the barefaced cheek to keep telling us that we didn’t know what we voting for. What a joke.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
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The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
So now Brexit might involve the imposition of martial law. I certainly don't remember that being a key feature mentioned by Leave.EU or Vote Leave...


He is another that preaches from parliament, telling others to do the right thing while all the time he is doing the wrong thing.

What exactly is Salmond doing wrong? Bear in mind he has not been convicted of any crime yet.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
If this young man were my MP, I would walk 500 miles to vote for him.


Who was that said that the youths were too idle to drag themselves out of bed to vote in the EU referendum.

This young man is setting a fine example for future voters.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
If this young man were my MP, I would walk 500 miles to vote for him.


Who was that said that the youths were too idle to drag themselves out of bed to vote in the EU referendum.

This young man is setting a fine example for future voters.
These are not bullies; they are negotiators who have all the aces; they always have and are playing their cards correctly.
It was always going to be this way despite what the Brexiteers and their tabloid backers said.

PROJECT REALITY
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
This is what the Remoaners beloved EU is like in reality. What a one sided love affair some people have with their dominant partner.

Again with this nonsense :rolleyes:

The English wouldn't know a one-sided Union if it slapped them in their collective faces. Brussels cannot pass an act dissolving the Westminster Parliament. Westminster, on the other hand, can do so with Holyrood. They might not even do that; they might just impose martial law and disband Holyrood by force.


George and Jeff give the most clarification on Brexit.

The greatest irony is that by agreeing with George Galloway you are siding with a 100% peer-reviewed and certified Islamic apologist of the worst kind. As in the sort of man who will level the accusation of 'Islamophobia' at literally any criticism of Islam - no matter how justified.


Some of the MP’s have the barefaced cheek to keep telling us that we didn’t know what we voting for. What a joke.

Such an assessment is rather accurate considering the Leave campaign consistently said pre-ballot that a Leave vote would not result in a hard Brexit, that negotiating trade deals with other nations would be the easiest thing in the world and that other countries would be queueing up to trade with us; among other egregious lies.

Then when they got the result they wanted they did an immediate about-face and are now engaging in an Orwellian attempt to rewrite history as well as what the result meant.

That said, assuming you are correct then you voted for Brexit with the knowledge that it would harm the British economy, lead to a resurgence in the far-right, cause racial hatred in England & Wales to sky-rocket shortly after the result, make the UK look like an isolationist pariah state; as well as risking both the dissolution of the Union and also the establishment of a tyranny in Britain under martial law.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Sturgeon could not get off the topic fast enough.

Sturgeon and her ilk are desperate to leave a very good union just so that they can give their hard won freedom away to a dictatorship know as the EU.

Regarding George Galloway, if I looked hard enough I might find something that Alex Salmond has said that I could agree with but I thought it was typical of a pompous MP to stand up in the House of Commons and tell others to do the right thing.

If we stuck to our guns the EU would not let us leave the building before they started pleading for a deal.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Sturgeon and her ilk are desperate to leave a very good union just so that they can give their hard won freedom away to a dictatorship know as the EU.

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No, the dictatorship that she wants to escape FROM is Westminster to the understanding people of Europe
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Sturgeon could not get off the topic fast enough.

... because she's not allowed to comment on it.


Sturgeon and her ilk are desperate to leave a very good union

A union that has been very good for England, not so for Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to understand though since your world-view seems to be rooted in myopic English nationalism and such people generally seem unaware of how badly Scotland has suffered and the extent to which we are side-lined in this "union of equals".

Take a look at the Brexit referendum. Westminster tried to give Wales & Northern Ireland what they voted for (specifically that Northern Ireland should be given a special deal so it is part of the UK but retains a soft border with the EU; hell, even the motor industry in Sunderland was going to get its own deal!! But Scotland? No. We voted to Remain but we weren't given any consideration; and all the alternatives put forward by our government, i.e. the people we elected were dismissed out of hand. They still are; Scottish MPs belonging to the Conservative Party have hinted they'll try to block the Scottish Government from having any chance of representing Scotland in post-Brexit negotiations.


just so that they can give their hard won freedom away to a dictatorship know as the EU.

No, NAN. The EU is not a dictatorship. You aren't even arguing consistently. First of all the EU made Ireland 'vote again' on the Lisbon Treaty after amending it to make it more appealing to Eire; now all of a sudden the EU doesn't take what its constituent members want into account.

So either the EU is not a dictatorship or it is. Pick one because it cannot be both.

The true dictatorship here is the UK because
  • Westminster can abolish the Scottish Parliament and other devolved assemblies whenever it wants; Brussels cannot do this.
  • Westminster can grab back powers even against our wishes; Brussels cannot do this.
  • Westminster can stall our law-making process through lengthy Supreme Court battles which allowed the Tories time to retroactively change legislation so it cannot be overwritten by Holyrood; Brussels cannot do this.
  • Westminster can force the constituent nations of the UK to do things they have not agreed to do already; Brussels cannot do this.


Regarding George Galloway, if I looked hard enough I might find something that Alex Salmond has said that I could agree with but I thought it was typical of a pompous MP to stand up in the House of Commons and tell others to do the right thing.

How was Salmond acting pompously beyond the fact he says something you disagree with but lack the wherewithal to counter?


If we stuck to our guns the EU would not let us leave the building before they started pleading for a deal.

A pretty fantasy. I'm honestly not sure why an isolationist state that no longer has its AAA credit rating and has threatened to default on payments it has already agreed to make for services it still benefits would be something the EU would chase after. I'm also not sure why you think the EU would jeopardise its own existence by offering a non-member state a relationship on better terms than its own members currently have...
 
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Notanumber

A Free Man
The Scottish National Party is all lovey-dovey and Politically Correct but if anyone wished to be associated with an English National Party, they would be denounced as a far-right racist in a flash.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
The Scottish National Party is all lovey-dovey and Politically Correct but if anyone wished to be associated with an English National Party, they would be denounced as a far-right racist in a flash.

Because they are very different animals. The SNP is a left of centre party. while UKIP is far right.
They inhabit totally different political spectrum's.

But of course you knew that. you were just pushing the Bannon agenda as instructed.
 
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