Altfish
Veteran Member
That wouldn't be a biased comment by any chance would it?
You trust a blackmailing US president more than your neighbours and friends.
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whats your beef with brexit?
- Thread starter England my lionheart
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You trust a blackmailing US president more than your neighbours and friends.
Who? The Germans?
Who have always been envious of our industry, of our cultural heritage? LoL..yes...sure
Notanumber
A Free Man
For the removal of any doubt.
As I have already stated, London Stock Exchange group has already a branch on the continent, the Bourse of Milan...so it is impossible Brexit produces financial losses
Altfish
Veteran Member
So, that's just fake news. ?????
Notanumber
A Free Man
It’s not all about money but psychologically we will be much better off once UK democracy has been revived.
You do a lot of wishful thinking.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Well, upto 52% might be 'psychologically' better off - until they realise how much Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg, Farage, etc. have made for themselves and their backers on the futures markets.
At the same time their jobs are in jeopardy and the country is going backwards.
Happy times ahead, indeed.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I would rather be accused of that than be a doom and gloom merchant like some I could mention.
Notanumber
A Free Man
You forgot to add your hero to that list. He is the one that has form.
How Did George Soros Break the Bank of England?
I would like the Irish to express their take on the hard border. On the EU. On the Euro.
Boris solution on Northern Ireland is perfect.
Boris solution on Northern Ireland is perfect.
Your life to waste.
Notanumber
A Free Man
You wouldn’t think so, being ruled over by the EU.
We need the principle of accountability so we can hold our politicians feet to the fire.
They need to realise that they work for us, as they will find out at the next General Election.
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
What a daft comment. We're not being "ruled over" by the EU. The EU is a democratic organisation that we joined voluntarily. All the rules are approved by the directly elected parliament and by the representatives of the member states (which are all democracies).
The EU is not without problems but neither is the UK, when it comes to democracy (house of lords, first-past-the-post, no written constitution, the monarchy).
Have you actually thought of any down-to-earth ways in which the EU has made your life worse, or ways in which you think it will improve if we leave, yet? All this pseudo-religious fervour (and damn the consequences) for no practical reasons at all, so it would seem.
In the couple of years we have been at this i (and several others) have asked specific searching questions about various points on europe, brexit etc and as far as i recall you have not answered any. You have obfuscated, posted irrelevant videos or totally ignored the questions.
The statement you make above begs such a question. Are you staying that your democratically elected government are not accountable? And how will leaving Europe change that situation in your eyes?
Notanumber
A Free Man
It is self-evident and if you weren’t indoctrinated you would realise that.
We need to downsize our parliament and get rid of the hangers-on.
It is far too bloated and ineffective, as recent events have proved.
We certainly do not need another tier above it.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Why are you completely unable to explain it, then?
What is it about the EU that's stopping us doing that?
Given all the advantages, what's so wrong with that tier, in down-to-earth practical terms, that it's worth risking so much to be rid of? Wouldn't we get more of far more bloat if we replaced the House of Lords and ditched the Monarchy?
If you look how hard it is to get out now think how hard it would be in the future,why would it be better if we "ditched the monarchy",I'll maybe agree on the house of Lord's but until there's a better process we have to have it.
The fact is the EU will not reform,it's so obvious it needs to but it is what it is,an over complicated mechanism that is of no benefit to a majority of people.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
It's hard because our government has come up with a load of silly and foolish "red lines" that, among other things, are totally incompatible with the Good Friday agreement in NI. Apart from that, this is our biggest trading partner - it's just idiotic to think we can distance ourselves so much without major economic harm.
How do you know? I don't see why we couldn't, if we stopped being so idiotically xenophobic and anti-EU, be a significant influence on the EU's future development.