What's Your Take On Salvation?

[Ben Masada]

Misplaced faith.

It usually is. Where faith begins, knowledge ends. (Disraeli)
And for lack of knowledge, people perish. (Hosea 4:6)

 

[mmmcounts]

Hey, I just wanted to discuss people's views on how one gets saved. Since I am asking this of others I will start it off.

I believe that everyone is born a sinner. Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." I believe that our sins have a cost, which is death - eternal separation from God. Romans 6:23a "For the wages of sin is death;" On our own, we are on our way to Hell, but the verse does not stop there: Romans 6:23 " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." God loved us enough to send us a way out of death - Jesus Christ. He came down to earth, lived a sinless life, and died on the cross for our sins. Romans 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." All we have to do to receive this gift is believe that Jesus died and rose again the third day. Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

That is how I believe one is saved. What is your opinion?

I think there's just one more step. God actually has to take action on your behalf whereby He saves you, and this won't necessarily happen immediately after you ask Him to do it. It happens when He does it.

 

[paolops181]

Hey, I just wanted to discuss people's views on how one gets saved. Since I am asking this of others I will start it off.

I believe that everyone is born a sinner. Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." I believe that our sins have a cost, which is death - eternal separation from God. Romans 6:23a "For the wages of sin is death;" On our own, we are on our way to Hell, but the verse does not stop there: Romans 6:23 " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." God loved us enough to send us a way out of death - Jesus Christ. He came down to earth, lived a sinless life, and died on the cross for our sins. Romans 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." All we have to do to receive this gift is believe that Jesus died and rose again the third day. Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

That is how I believe one is saved. What is your opinion?

That is one way brother but remember we should not forget the greatest commandment (matt.22:37:38) & we have to continue in the doctrine (1tim.4:16). Not just by believing but by works also that we will be justified (james2:24).

 

[Christian Gnosis]

Well I may as well cast in my opinion too, since there seems to be many in the conversation. I believe we are saved by coming to accurate knowledge of truth, as the NT puts it. By putting on the mind of Christ, realizing we are in Christ and Christ in us. It's about an enlightenment experience, from my perspective. I believe the NT teaches Mysticism and union with the Christ.

 

[Muffled]

It must be your anxiety to promote the Pauline policy of Replacement Theology.


No, He will not if we are to believe the prophets of the Lord. And if He does, it won't be of all Mankind. That's what I meant by universal catastrophe.


Jehovah will eventually make an end of all the nations indeed. But of Israel, He will only chastise us as we deserve. (Jer. 46:28)


This is Hellenistic rhetoric.


This has nothing to do with the issue at hand.


Commit to memory that the New Covenant, according to Jeremiah 31:31,32 was established with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. No Gentiles are mentioned.

I am anxious for nothing as the apostle Paul suggested.

I don't no where this policy concept comes from. Most of Paul's writing comes from the Paraclete. Paul does mention once about having a policy of what to do upon entering a new city.

I am sure there is such a thing but that does not automatically mean that I ascribe to it. If some of my beliefs tend to align with it, that does not mean that I buy into the whole theological perspective.

You mentioned the flood. Not everyone died in the flood either. You seem exceptionally good at ingoring God's word when you don't like what it says. You can even claim it isn't there when the words are staring you right in the face. This smacks of blindness brought on by religious fervor.

That is not what the verse says. you forgot the qualifier "whither I have driven thee" and the context which was the Babylonian Captivity.

Peter was Jewish and spoke by the inspiration of the paraclete.

I am sure you believe that Jesus belongs to the Jews alone with His new covenant however the Apostle Paul speaking by the inspiration of the Paraclete extends that covenant to Gentiles.

It has everything to do with having a covenant written on the heart. Without spirit and truth it is just words in a book.

 

[Muffled]

Well I may as well cast in my opinion too, since there seems to be many in the conversation. I believe we are saved by coming to accurate knowledge of truth, as the NT puts it. By putting on the mind of Christ, realizing we are in Christ and Christ in us. It's about an enlightenment experience, from my perspective. I believe the NT teaches Mysticism and union with the Christ.

This sounds like a big mountain but all one really needs to know is that one can ask Jesus to be his Savior. Jesus is quite capable of providing all the remaining accurate knowledge of truth.

To what in particular are you referring?

How is this pertinent to salvation and what are your references? There is a case where Jesus prays for this but that only means that it must be extremely difficult to obtain if God has to pray for it.

 

[Christian Gnosis]

This sounds like a big mountain but all one really needs to know is that one can ask Jesus to be his Savior. Jesus is quite capable of providing all the remaining accurate knowledge of truth.

To what in particular are you referring?

How is this pertinent to salvation and what are your references? There is a case where Jesus prays for this but that only means that it must be extremely difficult to obtain if God has to pray for it.

Sure one can ask Jesus to be their saviour Muffled, then what? What happens after that?

 

[waitasec]

The NT adds that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, which is evidenced by obedience to Jesus' commands.

consider
matt. 25:31-45
where does jesus say anything about faith? as he was speaking to his disciples they didn't need faith, he performed miracles to prove who he was. and he says to take up your cross and follow him....well, what the problem? i don't understand why this is something to be discussed...
if you are christ like then do what christ did.
act as a compassionate person, faith with out works is dead.

 

[jtartar]

Hey, I just wanted to discuss people's views on how one gets saved. Since I am asking this of others I will start it off.

I believe that everyone is born a sinner. Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." I believe that our sins have a cost, which is death - eternal separation from God. Romans 6:23a "For the wages of sin is death;" On our own, we are on our way to Hell, but the verse does not stop there: Romans 6:23 " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." God loved us enough to send us a way out of death - Jesus Christ. He came down to earth, lived a sinless life, and died on the cross for our sins. Romans 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." All we have to do to receive this gift is believe that Jesus died and rose again the third day. Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

That is how I believe one is saved. What is your opinion?

Daily Devoted,
It is very difficult to answer this question, with a short answer. In the first place, is the Bible Terra Incognita to you?? Are you a Sciolist, are you hindered by Fiducial Trust?? Just how much Praecognita have you?? Are you truely Groping???Are you pervious to truth, willing to believe what the Bible says, or do you have Sacred Cows that hinder you???
Certain doctrines are rather complicated unless you have a certain amount of background information.
The branch of Theology that relates to Salvation is called Soteriology.
This is very important:: No man on earth can earn everlasting life on his own. Just as you stated, we are all sinners, Ps 51:5, Ecc 7:20, 1John 1:8-10.
Since we can never attain salvation ourselves, becayse we are sinners,we must be DECLARED RIGHTEOUS, or Justified by Faith, which is Grace, or Undeserved Kindness, not by works, as under The Mosaic Law Covenant. The ONLY way we can be DECLARED RIGHTEOUS is by Faith in Jesus Christ, Rom 3:24, Gal 2:16.
By putting our faith in the Ransom Sacrifice of Jesus, God does not charge our sins against us, but uses Jesus sacrifice to cover our sins, 1John 2:1,2, Matt 20:28, Heb 10:11-14, 16-18, Acts 13:38,39.
By our putting faith in the Ransom Sacrifice of His son we are declared Righteous or Perfect in God's eye's so that our sins are not charged to us.
Once you have realized God's requirements you are in a Promerit condition, in a saved condition. Then you must dedicate yourself to God, and get baptized, but you must make sure that you get baptized by the ONE FAITH that God is blessing today, Eph 4:4-6. The only way to remain in that condition is to keep obeying God's laws as best you can, praying to God to forgive us of our sins,and not charge us with them, but to block our sins with the blood of Jesus.
Even though we can never earn salvation we must do works that are good, for by our works our faith is perfected, James 2:22, Rom 2:6, Eph 2:8-10.
Christians are not under The Mosaic Law Covenant, we are under the Law of Faith, in Jesus, Rom 3:27,28, Gal 6:2. We are especially under the Golden Rule, Matt 7:12, which is a law of love, John 13:34,35, Rom 13:8-10. Christians are to be honest in everything, Heb 13:18, and we must do these things to the END, Matt, 24:13, 2Cor 13:5.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

There is no proof for this. However the Paraclete accepts it as such.

The Bible offers this as a theoretical possibility but I could not imagine someone changing their mind. I am sure that sometimes a Christian will chase after sin for a season but it won't take long for the person to realize what a horrible mistake that is. More often the person who seems to have fallen from grace never wanted to be saved from sin but only the penalty that ensues.

So according you people seek salvation because its the right thing to do? That's pretty ludicrious to say.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Salvation, personal take- Salvation is the idea that people need saving from something. Usually it means sin, or hell, or something along those lines. I would say the only ones we need saving from are ourselves, and it is ultimately up to us to do that saving. If you're displeased with your life then change it. Gods will help you, but they're not going to do it for you.

 

[chinu]

but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

My opinion: This was only eligibe for the people of that time, Not Today.

How can one be saved today: He/she has to find Today's Jesus,

Why today's jesus: Because jesus has changed his Clothes (body),


Yes! jesus is only the way to Salvation.
_/\_Chinu.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

That salvation is not overall a useful term. Salvation in the modern majority view is a negative term with negative associations. It first puts one into the mindset that human beings somehow are very evil and need something higher then us to save us, because we cannot do it ourselves. This makes humans very weak by such a negative view.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

Salvation means being saved from something. I'm working toward being liberated to something. Breaking the cycle of samsara, and attaining liberation, and achieving Nirvana, this is what I believe when I hear the word 'salvation'. But this is from ourselves. We cannot rely on anyone or anything else to save us. Only we can change ourselves. Because change has to be enacted from within; one has to want to change in order to change. We cannot be forced. Then this is not true liberation. Salvation implies that humans are inherently flawed, weak, and powerless. Liberation implies the opposite, that we can do this on our own, that we have all the power necessary to escape from samsara to Nirvana. To me, this is true salvation.

 

[TheKnight]

Hey, I just wanted to discuss people's views on how one gets saved. Since I am asking this of others I will start it off.

That is how I believe one is saved. What is your opinion?

Can you clarify:

Salvation from what? When you ask how one is saved, from what do you think one needs to be saved?

 

[Nadia Faiazova]

Hi! It's a good question. In the Hebrew Scriptures, “salvation” usually means rescue or deliverance from oppression or from a violent, untimely death. For instance, calling Jehovah “the Provider of escape,” David said: “My God is my rock...My place for flight, my Savior; from violence you save me. On the One to be praised, Jehovah, I shall call, and from my enemies I shall be saved.” (2 Samuel 22:2-4)

Through Jesus, God revealed the full scope of the meaning of salvation. It includes release from the rulership of sin, from bondage to false religion, from the world under Satan’s control, from the fear of man, and even from the fear of death. (John 17:16; Romans 8:2; Colossians 1:13; Revelation 18:2,4) Ultimately, for God’s faithful servants, salvation by God means not only deliverance from oppression and distress but also the opportunity to have everlasting life. (John 6:40; 17:3)