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When I was 11, a couple of years after I'd stopped believing in Santa Claus, the famous five and Hogwarts...
The Famous Five doesn't exist?!
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When I was 11, a couple of years after I'd stopped believing in Santa Claus, the famous five and Hogwarts...
I didn't fully and accurately describe myself as an atheist until 22 or 23, but, technically, I was always a non-believer.
The trick is figuring out that there are alternatives to what you're being told and then figuring out how to integrate them yourself, since, unless your very lucky, nobody teaches you how to be a skeptic.
This sounds so familiar. My parents have the same share in religious or anti-religious thinking; my dad opposes religion and my mom faguely believes in something. My dad is the intelligent one anyway.Being still in my teens, I wouldn't dare claim to have the life experience of previous posters, but I stopped believing at a very young age (around 8 or 9) after coming across the classic 'problem of evil' and developing an interest in philosophy.
My father was (and is) an atheist, though my mother possessed a vauge 'fuzzy belief' in a higher being, until several years of interesting discussion with both myself and my (atheist) sister eroded it away.
A (continuing) fascination and study of philosophy, (Christian) Church history, marxism and contemporary religious/political issues has only cemented my (dis/non?) belief over time.
I stopped believing in god when I was in eighth grade, so I would have been 13. Prior to that though, I never went to church or read the bible. My parents and relatives would always just casually mention god and those such things, and I therefore accepted them as true, since all of the grown ups talked about it just like it was truth.
Nobody's trying to make you feel stupid. This is an education forum, after all. If you don't understand something, ask. If anyone's an *** about it, the rest of us will probably come down on them.I am not believing in a white bearded man in the sky, who could look like anyone's grandfather......as depicted in MANY illustrations just as Martians are depicted as little green men......Why is everything such a riddle? I am tired of people talking waaaaay over my head and trying to make me feel dumb, as I don't understand what the heck they are talking about......Is this a way to make people feel stupid......so oh, you have to be right....You are smarter than I, is the response....? It does not wash that way for me.......case in point....too...The Bible....well, what did that mean....Uh....well, to one person's interpretation it meant this...another it meant that...Come on....sorry , I needed to vent that.
I am not believing in a white bearded man in the sky, who could look like anyone's grandfather......as depicted in MANY illustrations just as Martians are depicted as little green men......Why is everything such a riddle? I am tired of people talking waaaaay over my head and trying to make me feel dumb, as I don't understand what the heck they are talking about......Is this a way to make people feel stupid......so oh, you have to be right....You are smarter than I, is the response....? It does not wash that way for me.......case in point....too...The Bible....well, what did that mean....Uh....well, to one person's interpretation it meant this...another it meant that...Come on....sorry , I needed to vent that.
I remember calling my friend Mikey, a long-time atheist, to tell him. He was very happy for me; it was the longest phone conversation we ever had. He died the following year, and I'm very glad I woke up in time for him to know about it.It happened last year. And, man, am I glad it did.
You experessed truth with this post better than any religion could ever hope to teach. Don't be so hard on yourself. K? :grill:
QUOTED FOR TRUTHIt's a nit-picky point, but I'm not convinced we just "decide" what to believe. Belief is more complicated than that, and I don't think we have direct control over it. We certainly can influence it by choosing what information we expose ourselves to, but I can't simply decide to believe something I don't already without some external catalyst. When my faith crumbled, it wasn't voluntary. I wanted to continue believing, but I couldn't.
This is another reason the sola fide concept I grew up with didn't ring true. All we have to do is just believe to avoid eternal damnation, but if we can't really control our beliefs very well, it's an obviously unjust idea to hang our eternal destiny on them.
I went to church on a regular basis from the time I was a toddler until I was 18 and went away to college. I thought Sunday school was ok but thought church was very boring and often fell asleep during the sermons. I guess I first began to question Christianity when I couldn't figure out how dinosaurs fit into the story of genesis.
After going to college I never went to church on a regular basis but still believed in God. About 5 years ago I became interested in learning more about my religion and read parts of the Bible and other books about Christianity. All this did was make me question my beliefs even more and I slowly became a deist.
I became an agnostic after taking a college course that dealt with the philosophical arguments that claimed to prove the existence of God. During this class we read a book titled Is Belief in God Good, Bad or Irrelevant by Greg Graffin and Preston Jones (I highly recommend this book). After reading it and finishing the course, I was pretty much convinced that the Christian God didn't exist. In my mind, the arguments against the existence of God were much stronger than the arguments for His existence.
So, at what point in your life did you lose your belief (if you ever had any) and what caused you to not believe?