When did you realize you were....

[Drolefille]

I voted "Queer", but that is thing in and of itself.

Unlike other accounts of people when they were children, I never had crushes. I never noticed the differences or preferred girls over boys, or vice versa. Even after I hit puberty, I still had no real interest in either sex.

It wasn't until high school when I noticed that I had more feelings for guys than girls. I guess I'm a later bloomer, eh?

By the way, on the Kinsey scale, I think I would be a 4.5. I prefer males, but I can see myself finding a woman at least romantically attractive.

So you're telling me I have a chance? *flirty eyes*

FWIW I didn't date a woman until my mid 20s. Catholicism was not conducive to me figuring out my sexuality.

 

[Nymphs]

Catholicism was not conducive to me figuring out my sexuality.

Neither was Mormonism.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

First fell in love with a male: Harrison Ford in Star Wars when I was 5.
First fell in love with a female: International beauty pageant contestant when I was 6 (can't remember her name, but she had the most beautiful smile and she was from Brazil).

I didn't know what that was called, only that there was that spark, but when I verbalized my attraction to males, it was cute. When I verbalized my attraction to females, everybody went silent and ignored it like that part of me didn't exist.

Childhood was rough in that department. I was called a dyke all through school, but I didn't know what they were talking about because I liked boys. Too.

I found out what bisexuality was when I was almost done with high school. Wasn't a part of sex education, but when I read something about David Bowie and his orientation. Once I saw the word, I suddenly quietly rejoiced to myself, "That's ME!"...but then came the next chapter of trying to deny it since I identified myself as a devout Christian, and where I was told many times how homosexual attractions are sick, twisted, and need to be prayed away.

I fully understood my orientation when I began dating women, and when I had a long-term loving relationship with a woman in my early '20s.

 

[Nymphs]

First fell in love with a male: Harrison Ford in Star Wars when I was 5.
First fell in love with a female: International beauty pageant contestant when I was 6 (can't remember her name, but she had the most beautiful smile and she was from Brazil).

I didn't know what that was called, only that there was that spark, but when I verbalized my attraction to males, it was cute. When I verbalized my attraction to females, everybody went silent and ignored it like that part of me didn't exist.

Childhood was rough in that department. I was called a dyke all through school, but I didn't know what they were talking about because I liked boys. Too.

I found out what bisexuality was when I was almost done with high school. Wasn't a part of sex education, but when I read something about David Bowie and his orientation. Once I saw the word, I suddenly quietly rejoiced to myself, "That's ME!"...but then came the next chapter of trying to deny it since I identified myself as a devout Christian, and where I was told many times how homosexual attractions are sick, twisted, and need to be prayed away.

I fully understood my orientation when I began dating women, and when I had a long-term loving relationship with a woman in my early '20s.

You have given out too many Frubals in the last 24 hours, try again later.

 

[Riverwolf]

People don't have to realize they are straight.

You are talking about those who ponder if they might be gay or bi are a different situation, but even then, they didn't start by realizing they are straight, they realize they might be different.

People do not experiment with other sex's by default to realize if they are straight or not.
Some may be confused, but that is a completely diff situation.

Again, by default, people do not come into this world confused and have to experiment to realize who they are.

Even transgenders know as infants they are living in the wrong body.
That is valid proof of it's reality, they didn't have to "realize" anything, it was born into them and they knew as default, who they were.

It is the ones around them that have to come to the realization.
In every single case I have read or watched on TV or YT, these people realize who they are before they even have the ability to read or write.

'Fraid I can't take TV, at least if it's from the US, as any kind of valid source, since there's so much absolute misinformed garbage on there. (For that reason, I don't watch TV at all, anymore.) I've long stopped believing that "default" can accurately applied to humanity as a whole when removing cultural norms.

 

[Leftimies]

Obviously, I pick straight, but to claim it as "realization" is kind of ignorant.
Straight people don't even ponder if they might be gay or Bi.

It's sort of like saying, "when did you realize you were alive?" :sarcastic:
Its pretty much self explanatory.

The better question would be:
"When did you realize that your sensuality was different then most peoples?"

Mmm, I would like to take this opportunity to say that some people are confused for a variety of reasons for most of their youth/teenage years and only find out late. I was one such person. I think there is a term for it, latency.

Only by late teens and early 20s did I posses enough self-knowledge and secure integrity to understand who and what I truly was and what was not part of me. It is not obvious to everyone at the beginning. For me, the rather surprising and unexpected realisation of being pretty much straight came late. It was profound and something that now feels always was there, but got hijacked because I was wayyy too sensitive to a whole set of things.

But I shall not go into details here and bore everyone to death. My point is made, I believe.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Catholicism was not conducive to me figuring out my sexuality.

When I first became Catholic, I tried to be very devout. It sent me into a spiral of self-hatred over my sexuality. I was scrupulous. Later on, I figured out how to reconcile my sexuality and gender identity with Catholicism but was mad because I wouldn't be accepted by the Church.

 

[Jainarayan]

I knew around the time of puberty I was attracted to and aroused by other boys and men. This persisted all through high school and college and beyond, but I denied and suppressed it. I was 38 when I actually came out as gay.

 

[Drolefille]

When I first became Catholic, I tried to be very devout. It sent me into a spiral of self-hatred over my sexuality. I was scrupulous. Later on, I figured out how to reconcile my sexuality and gender identity with Catholicism but was mad because I wouldn't be accepted by the Church.

I think it was just very easy for me to ignore it. I wasn't really sexually active until I was about 19-20. I was interested in dudes and while the porn I was reading involved more women then men, that seemed "normal" because porn was for guys right and that's what guys liked.

*shrug*

It wasn't until I got out of the "this is the guy I'm going to marry" mindset that I even considered it, and I realize now that I was totally into the possibility of being with my first poly boyfriend's wife (she however is super straight).

 

[Gehennaite]

Trans women are women. And the fact that you don't consider yourself a "slave to women" or whatever you posted AND you just called them "male" means that you don't seem to understand that.

Transvestite/Cross dressing men are male. There's a different.

And the words for "men into trans" people are pretty negative. Because fetishizing trans women - see pornography Chicks with ____ - is incredibly common while not even respecting their identity as women.

As you've demonstrated here.

I know exactly what I mean when I use the word transwoman: a genetic, XX-chromosomal male identifying as a female.

As for the rest of your post, it is nonsensical and I obviously have no clue why you felt the need to include any of it in your response.

 

[Nymphs]

I know exactly what I mean when I use the word transwoman: a genetic, XX-chromosomal male identifying as a female.

As for the rest of your post, it is nonsensical and I obviously have no clue why you felt the need to include any of it in your response.

They are a woman, and you really don't have any right to tell them differently.

 

[Gehennaite]

They are a woman, and you really don't have any right to tell them differently.

Did you even care to understand the intention of my use of the word transwoman in my initial post? I was using it to be specific.

I am subscribed to 20+ MtF transgender channels on YT. I learned the use of the word through them. The use of the word is perfectly consistent with their own perspective. Please stop acting as if you have any idea of what you're talking about.

 

[Riverwolf]

They are a woman, and you really don't have any right to tell them differently.

What if they, themselves, deny being women?

 

[Drolefille]

I know exactly what I mean when I use the word transwoman: a genetic, XX-chromosomal male identifying as a female.

As for the rest of your post, it is nonsensical and I obviously have no clue why you felt the need to include any of it in your response.

A) Trans woman not "Transwoman" is the preferred general term. If a friend requests you use otherwise. Go for it.
B) You fail biology.
C) Not all Trans women start out as chromosomally male.

 

[Nymphs]

What if they, themselves, deny being women?

Then they aren't. But most transwomen are going to call themselves women, especially in my experience.

 

[Gehennaite]

A) Trans woman not "Transwoman" is the preferred general term. If a friend requests you use otherwise. Go for it.
B) You fail biology.
C) Not all Trans women start out as chromosomally male.

A) transwoman/trans-woman/trans woman = same difference.
B) I meant to type XY.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What if they, themselves, deny being women?

If they're going to deny being women, then they wouldn't be calling themselves trans women in the first place.

 

[Sha'irullah]

I realized I was asexual when I was roughly 16 I think. I just went through life with a preconceived concept of sexuality and no interest. Took me a while to realize that lack of interest means no sexuality. I just kept trying to make myself interested in women and eventually guys but I just never cared until I realized something such as asexuality exist.

 

[Drolefille]

A) transwoman/trans-woman/trans woman = same difference.
B) I meant to type XY.

No, there's a difference.

And you ignored that trans women don't necessarily start off life as XY.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I would be careful about referring to trans women as "males who identify as women". Not all trans women would categorize themselves as being male in any way, now or in the past. Just something to be aware of.