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When does it end.

tariqkhwaja

Jihad Against Terrorism
Whose truth?
Scientists can and have been wrong. There are scientists in the world today who believe in contradicting hypothesis. And one of them or all of them might be wrong in their hypothesis.

But that does not stop scientists from sharing their hypothesis. Scientists take what they believe, test it to their own satisfaction, and then share with others. Sharing with others also allows them to
1. Find weaknesses in others' hypothesis
2. Find weaknesses in their own hypothesis

Either way, we should not stop scientific sharing of information if we are to truly progress. Our scientific advances might bring harm if put in the wrong hands but that should not stop us either.

Similarly if we are to make religious progression we should share and debate, as scientists do, our belief. Our debates might not give us the ultimate answer (as in the case of scientists there are many things left unanswered) but stopping the use of this tool of debating to try and find the truth makes no sense.

That is another reason why, if I believe in the truth, I consider my responsibility to share it with my fellow human beings whom I tend to love. All I ask of everyone, including myself, here is honesty.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
friend CAlebAB,
The question about the ENd that you talk about will always remain as the root of all problems has been the Mind or Satan from the begining of human history.
Mind creates differences and is the Satan for mankind. Get rid of Satan, silence the MINd and all differences will disappear and Peace will be there on the earth and the universe.
Love & rgds
 

lockyfan

Active Member
We can all see that the world is getting worse.

But you need to look at the scriptures provided by God especially Matthew 24, Luke 21 and 2Timothy 1-5 and then ask yourself, does this sound like the world today?
remembering that althouh people say yeh but we have had wrs and the such for ever, just think, have they been happeneing EVEYWHERE like they are now?


then look at revelation and into the old religious ideals, they all believe something was to happen in 1914, but they thought that something was armageddon. It didnt happen, but that is when the first signs of trouble started to pile up on the earth in a confluence of events.

The worst thought is that the world is still to get worse, before it gets better.

So it will end after a greater tribulation than we see and that hapens after the end of religion upon the earth
 

McBell

Unbound
Scientists can and have been wrong. There are scientists in the world today who believe in contradicting hypothesis. And one of them or all of them might be wrong in their hypothesis.

But that does not stop scientists from sharing their hypothesis. Scientists take what they believe, test it to their own satisfaction, and then share with others. Sharing with others also allows them to
1. Find weaknesses in others' hypothesis
2. Find weaknesses in their own hypothesis

Either way, we should not stop scientific sharing of information if we are to truly progress. Our scientific advances might bring harm if put in the wrong hands but that should not stop us either.
Bad example really.
See, in science when something is shown to be wrong, they come up with another idea that includes the new information.
religion on the other hand tends to go out of its way to discredit/dismiss anything that it (religion) thinks contradicts said religion.

One prime example is the nonsense surrounding creationism and evolution.

Similarly if we are to make religious progression we should share and debate, as scientists do, our belief. Our debates might not give us the ultimate answer (as in the case of scientists there are many things left unanswered) but stopping the use of this tool of debating to try and find the truth makes no sense.
Problem here is that no matter what truths and facts are presented, you (not necessarily you personally, but you as in theists in general) will not adjust your beliefs accordingly.
Adjusting the idea to fit the available data is the crutch of science.

That is another reason why, if I believe in the truth, I consider my responsibility to share it with my fellow human beings whom I tend to love. All I ask of everyone, including myself, here is honesty.
And if you believe nonsense that you believe is the truth?
What then?
If shown your beliefs are not true will you do as science and adjust your beliefs, or do you ignore that which you think contradicts your "truth?"

I already know the answer to this one for you, tariqkhwaja, as does anyone who reads any thread you participated in about homosexuality.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
It ends when all religious people accept that they believe utter nonsense and accept that there is NO GOD & NO AFTERLIFE
What an absolute disgusting thing to say! So, you feel we'll be "alright" when we all accept YOUR beliefs? How utterly droll.

I guess this shows that you don't have to be a theist to be intolerant!
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I think that even if there were one world religion, or no religion at all, world peace would still elude us.
There is much truth in this statement. We are a highly territorial species and even create colonies that mirror that territoriality. We can only end the conflicts by making sure everyone's needs are being met. Even then, our competitiveness may very well be our undoing. For many, it's not that they need to succeed as much as it is that they want everyone else to fail. It's a sad state of affairs, and it all seems to be genetically driven. Maybe we need some chlorine in the gene pool after all. :D
 
When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? Why cant everyone just agree to disagree about their perspective beliefs. I'm all for the general religious discussion, but there is a line that souldnt be crossed. you can talk about religion and not offended if you keep your mind open. you dont have to believe in everything some one is saying to take somthing valuable from them.

It's never gonna end. Humans are irrational animals. Intolerance isn't just limited to religions either. The problem is intolerance in general. I'd be more worried about itchy trigger-fingers on the big red button you hear so much about these days.

It ends when all religious people accept that they believe utter nonsense and accept that there is NO GOD & NO AFTERLIFE

Thank you for showing me the light! My chains are broken! Huz-zah!

~matthew.william~
 

oldcajun

__BE REAL
When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? Why cant everyone just agree to disagree about their perspective beliefs. I'm all for the general religious discussion, but there is a line that souldnt be crossed. you can talk about religion and not offended if you keep your mind open. you dont have to believe in everything some one is saying to take somthing valuable from them.

When we have a major change in human nature from selfishness to love for our neighbor, it will happen.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? Why cant everyone just agree to disagree about their perspective beliefs. I'm all for the general religious discussion, but there is a line that souldnt be crossed. you can talk about religion and not offended if you keep your mind open. you dont have to believe in everything some one is saying to take somthing valuable from them.
The problem is everyone approaches any other religion with the idea that they are right and that someone else is automatically wrong....I find in fascinating to listen to other people tell about their beliefs....I've never been in a Catholic Church but I have been told that they have some beautiful forms of worship. Maybe sometime I will be able to attend a mass. I've never been in an LDS church but would to visit at least once....The OP is right you can get something valuable from every religion, we are turning people off to religion by the discension among religious people.......
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
It ends when all religious people accept that they believe utter nonsense and accept that there is NO GOD & NO AFTERLIFE
The OP was not asking the question do you believe in God or an afterlife or whether religious people was right or wrong in what they believe. The OP was talking about acceptance between people of different religions.....Learning to understand and listen to each other, and maybe learn something of value from each other....
 

crystalonyx

Well-Known Member
The OP was not asking the question do you believe in God or an afterlife or whether religious people was right or wrong in what they believe. The OP was talking about acceptance between people of different religions.....Learning to understand and listen to each other, and maybe learn something of value from each other....


And what is involved in acceptance?

Accepting the words "In God we Trust" on coins, liscense plates, and in the pledge of allegiance?

Alllowing religion to dictate politics?
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
And what is involved in acceptance?

Accepting the words "In God we Trust" on coins, liscense plates, and in the pledge of allegiance?

Alllowing religion to dictate politics?

Not at all. I think doing that is violating the separation of church and state policy that we have, as well as a direct violation of the first amendment, of which one of the freedoms is religion.
 

Laughing Man

1337 |-|4(|<3R
I believe it ends when people realize that we have no real way of knowing who is "right" and who is "wrong" when it comes to religion. And when everybody accepts that their religion is not the only "right" one.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
And what is involved in acceptance?

Accepting the words "In God we Trust" on coins, liscense plates, and in the pledge of allegiance?

Alllowing religion to dictate politics?
This has nothing to do with coins, license plates or the pledge....In case you didn't understand the op it means that if the religious people would start listening and being more tolerant of each other's beliefs then all the discension and animosity would finally end.... This has nothing to do with religious beliefs toward unbelievers this is acceptance of religious tolerance from one religion to another.
 

lockyfan

Active Member
The end of religion is going to be so sudden no one will know its coming unless you are awake to the signs, even then its going to hit you like a ton of bricks
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? Why cant everyone just agree to disagree about their perspective beliefs. I'm all for the general religious discussion, but there is a line that souldnt be crossed. you can talk about religion and not offended if you keep your mind open. you dont have to believe in everything some one is saying to take somthing valuable from them.

Never, because Chistians will forever be Christians and we serve God who is intolerant of evil because it is an abnegation of Himself. The truth is one: Jesus.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever, 17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.

The Gospel is offensive to some and foolishness to others. A mind caught up in worldliness is at odds with those who are spiritual. Nor is a Christian ever likely to stop preaching the Gospel because we are commanded by Jesus to do so.

Perhaps in a negative way this is true. My wife had a friend who was Wiccan but left to become a Baptist. He claimed that the past haunted him. It may very well be that a demon followed him around because he managed to introduce my wife to one. Thank God the demon scared her silly into accepting Jesus as Savior.
 
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