When does it end.

[lockyfan]

the truth is what? Jesus

The truth is more than just Jesus, it is the hope of the coming Kingdom of God, under Christs rule. No one gets to the Kingdom unless it is through acknoledging who Christ is and What he did for us.

So there is more to the truth than just Christ, he is merely the beginning of the truth. The beginnig of the "deep things of God

 

[JustWondering]

Humans are irrational animals. Intolerance isn't just limited to religions either. The problem is intolerance in general.

I concur.

 

[Imagist]

I believe it ends when people realize that we have no real way of knowing who is "right" and who is "wrong" when it comes to religion. And when everybody accepts that their religion is not the only "right" one.

This is flatly incorrect. In many cases, one can easily tell that a religion is wrong. Take, for example, religions that predicted the end of the world on a specific date which is now in the past. Those religions are clearly and unequivocally wrong.

 

[McBell]

This is flatly incorrect. In many cases, one can easily tell that a religion is wrong. Take, for example, religions that predicted the end of the world on a specific date which is now in the past. Those religions are clearly and unequivocally wrong.

Um...
How does one persons prediction being wrong invalidate a whole religion?

 

[Imagist]

Um...
How does one persons prediction being wrong invalidate a whole religion?

Who said anything about one person? I said, "religions that predicted the end of the world on a specific date which is now in the past", not "one person that predicted the end of the world on a specific date which is now in the past". In other words, if the end of the world on a specific date is a core belief of a religion, that religion is invalidated when that date passes and the world does not end.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If we are going to off ourselves as a species, religion may end up being the tool for our destruction, but not the cause. If you could eradicate religion, people would organize themselves into some other self-righteous, violently ideologically opposed groups.

Religion isn't the problem, it's just one of the symptoms.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Mankind will always have differing ideals on religion, and most will think "I am right and you are wrong."
The closest I think we could come to any sort of universal tolerance is if every government on earth was completely secular. With no connections at all between church and state. And by allowing complete freedom of religion and freedom to choose no religion at all. You may congregate, you may proselytize, you may do anything your religion demands...except trample on the freedoms of others.
Or is that just a pipe dream....

 

[bobhikes]

When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? Why cant everyone just agree to disagree about their perspective beliefs. I'm all for the general religious discussion, but there is a line that souldnt be crossed. you can talk about religion and not offended if you keep your mind open. you dont have to believe in everything some one is saying to take somthing valuable from them.

As long as there is a line that should not be crossed it will never end. If you can't be questioned about all your beliefs then there will always be conflict.

 

[Willamena]

Intolerance = because you don't believe what I believe, you're wrong.

 

[Runewolf1973]

If the world is going to be led to destruction, it will in the future just as it has historically been in the past led by the intolerance of followers of the Abrahamic religions. I would say that most other religions are pretty tolerant of other beliefs, they just don't like being told they're going to go to Hell or be punished just because they don't worship a particular variation of the biblical God. Jesus started the confusion to begin with by bringing his "God" upon us. Would be nice if he came back and cleaned up the mess he created. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Imagist]

Intolerance = because you don't believe what I believe, you're wrong.

This is a poor definition, since it indicates that there is no one true thing.

The earth is round. Some people believe the earth is flat. Would it be intolerant if I said that they are wrong?

I think that it would not be intolerant for me to say that person is wrong. Nor would it be intolerant for me to prevent them from teaching their beliefs to my children in school, debunk their beliefs publicly, point out the illogic in their beliefs, or insist on spreading the fact that the earth is round.

It WOULD be intolerant for me to lock them in jail, beat them up, kick them out of their house, prevent them from voting or discriminate against them in jobs.

A better definition of intolerance is, in my opinion, "Because you don't believe what I believe, I no longer will treat you as a fellow human being."

 

[McBell]

Who said anything about one person? I said, "religions that predicted the end of the world on a specific date which is now in the past", not "one person that predicted the end of the world on a specific date which is now in the past". In other words, if the end of the world on a specific date is a core belief of a religion, that religion is invalidated when that date passes and the world does not end.

Fair enough.

Which religion has done so?

 

[Imagist]

Fair enough.

Which religion has done so?

Many, many religions. There's a name for them: doomsday cults. The phenomenon is known as millenarism or apocalypticism.

For a list of just a few, see this page.

Even the big religions have predictions about end times. According to the bible Jesus is "coming soon" (though 2000 years doesn't seem soon to me, that claim hardly concerns me in the face of some of the other things claimed by the bible).

 

[lockyfan]

If the world is going to be led to destruction, it will in the future just as it has historically been in the past led by the intolerance of followers of the Abrahamic religions. I would say that most other religions are pretty tolerant of other beliefs, they just don't like being told they're going to go to Hell or be punished just because they don't worship a particular variation of the biblical God. Jesus started the confusion to begin with by bringing his "God" upon us. Would be nice if he came back and cleaned up the mess he created. But that's just my opinion.

lol when he comes back to clean up the problem most of the world is going to be wiped out, because they refuse to listen to hte Good news of the kingdom that Jesus and his followers today preach

 

[Runewolf1973]

lol when he comes back to clean up the problem most of the world is going to be wiped out, because they refuse to listen to hte Good news of the kingdom that Jesus and his followers today preach

It seems to me to be rather sadistic of a God that promises to come and "wipe out" the world just because people don't want to listen to his "Good news".

 

[lockyfan]

Or maybe its just to the point where has to act, because the world can not go on like it is forever.

He has to do something and the problem is, that if people listened to his word in the first place and lived by what it says, they wont be destroyed at Armageddon

God has allowed thousands of years for peopl to get the warning and understand what he wants from them, there doescome a time though when he will have to act.

That time is coming soon

 

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

The believing in an afterlife and God is not the problem. The problem is in the religious people's incessant need to prove their belief system and say that they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Except, of course, that not all religionists say this.

Indeed, some explicitly state they revere and accept the other religions (and act accordingly)!

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Runewolf1973]

Don't worry about it so much. I already received a revelation from the spirit world. There will be no Armageddon and there will be no second coming of Christ. Nothing ever truly comes to an end.

 

[Katzpur]

It ends when all religious people accept that they believe utter nonsense and accept that there is NO GOD & NO AFTERLIFE

Intorerance personified. Thanks for a great illustration of what the OP was saying.

 

[lockyfan]

Don't worry about it so much. I already received a revelation from the spirit world. There will be no Armageddon and there will be no second coming of Christ. Nothing ever truly comes to an end.

What spirit world was that?

This world isnt going to end with armageddon, only the way it is now will end. A New world order is on its way