When does Scripture point too as being the "day of the Lord"?

[2ndpillar]

What Scriptural timing surrounds the coming of the "awesome day of the Lord" (Joel 2:31)?

I would suggest looking at the surrounding writings of Joel 2 &3, whereas "I will pour My Spirit on all mankind in those days. And I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, the sun will be turned to darkness and the moon into blood...For behold on those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat/judgment. Then I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations"

Judah has already been restored to Jerusalem, which was completed in 1967. Israel/Ephraim remains "scattered among the nations" until Ezekiel 37:16 is completed. We are now approaching the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem under the rule of Judah, which would be a Jubilee year, which is when land is restored to Israel. The only way the land is returned to Israel, is when "I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured...Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations......And the Lord will be king over all the earth....And Judah also will fight at Jerusalem".

"Thine enemies" already "conspire together against Thy treasured ones, They have said, Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation; That the name of Israel be remembered no more" (Psalm 83:2-4). This has been happening for the last approximately 70 years.

Why is now the opportune time for the nations to fall upon the Judah and Jerusalem at this time. It is because we have a guy who thinks he is the Muslim Mahdi, pulling the world power strings from the White House, with a Iranian chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett. The Iranians have been given the rights to produce nuclear material, the money to buy technology and weapons from Russia, and the protection the U.S. military is providing to protect the Iranian nuclear facilities, which will probably end on the 20th of January 2017. The Jubilee of the reunification of Jerusalem would be June 2017.

The scenario is that the Iranians and their front line allies will strike before 20 January 2017, and then Israel will have to strike Elam/Iran, and bring the prophecy against Elam into foreplay, whereas their people will become dispersed among the nations, and all the nations who are left, who went up against Jerusalem "will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths" (Zech 14:16)

 

[Kemosloby]

That covers the whole time span from Jesus' first coming until the second coming. Gathering the nations seems to mean that Christ has incorporated all nations into his religion and they are no longer exempt from judgement. But the Day of the Lord could be any time after all those things happen, which seem to have already happened a long time ago. If you see my thread 2070 Christs Glorious Return, I believe it will be sometimes between 2070 and 2570.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

"Jerusalem" tends to have a mightier opinion of itself than is really warranted.

 

[Stalwart]

Our Lord has hidden two things from us:

1. How many are to be saved in the end.

2. When the apocalypse will take place.

We simply cannot possibly know.

Also, 'Israel' can never be taken to refer to the state of Israel; 'Israel' refers to Christendom -- it does not the Jewish state, nor the Jewish people.

 

[Tumah]

Our Lord has hidden two things from us:

1. How many are to be saved in the end.

2. When the apocalypse will take place.

We simply cannot possibly know.

Also, 'Israel' can never be taken to refer to the state of Israel; 'Israel' refers to Christendom -- it does not the Jewish state, nor the Jewish people.

And Christians don't mean Christians and Muslims don't mean Muslims and house really refers to pickles and people are made out of shells and snails.

What's the name of that story where the girl falls down a hole and everything is psycho?
Yeah.

 

[Stalwart]

And Christians don't mean Christians and Muslims don't mean Muslims and house really refers to pickles and people are made out of shells and snails.

What's the name of that story where the girl falls down a hole and everything is psycho?
Yeah.

'Israel' refers to God's nation; it refers to Christendom. The Jews are no longer Israel.

 

[Tumah]

'Israel' refers to God's nation; it refers to Christendom. The Jews are no longer Israel.

Yeah and Christians refers to those who believe in Maimonides 12th principle of the coming of the messiah. Sorry about that, so we're going to have to take your name from you. But how about this: Since you subjugate yourself to Jesus, we'll start calling you Muslims from now on, since Islam means subjugation.

 

[Tumah]

"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof."

Get in my ashtray.

-quoted from "The guy who initiated the largest polytheistic idol-worshiping religion in the world."

 

[Stalwart]

-quoted from "The guy who initiated the largest polytheistic idol-worshiping religion in the world."

Now you sound like one of our ("our") Protestants.

You're basically one and the same anyway, so I'm not overly surprised.

 

[omega2xx]

What Scriptural timing surrounds the coming of the "awesome day of the Lord" (Joel 2:31)?

I would suggest looking at the surrounding writings of Joel 2 &3, whereas "I will pour My Spirit on all mankind in those days. And I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, the sun will be turned to darkness and the moon into blood...For behold on those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat/judgment. Then I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations"

Judah has already been restored to Jerusalem, which was completed in 1967. Israel/Ephraim remains "scattered among the nations" until Ezekiel 37:16 is completed. We are now approaching the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem under the rule of Judah, which would be a Jubilee year, which is when land is restored to Israel. The only way the land is returned to Israel, is when "I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured...Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations......And the Lord will be king over all the earth....And Judah also will fight at Jerusalem".

"Thine enemies" already "conspire together against Thy treasured ones, They have said, Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation; That the name of Israel be remembered no more" (Psalm 83:2-4). This has been happening for the last approximately 70 years.

Why is now the opportune time for the nations to fall upon the Judah and Jerusalem at this time. It is because we have a guy who thinks he is the Muslim Mahdi, pulling the world power strings from the White House, with a Iranian chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett. The Iranians have been given the rights to produce nuclear material, the money to buy technology and weapons from Russia, and the protection the U.S. military is providing to protect the Iranian nuclear facilities, which will probably end on the 20th of January 2017. The Jubilee of the reunification of Jerusalem would be June 2017.

The scenario is that the Iranians and their front line allies will strike before 20 January 2017, and then Israel will have to strike Elam/Iran, and bring the prophecy against Elam into foreplay, whereas their people will become dispersed among the nations, and all the nations who are left, who went up against Jerusalem "will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths" (Zech 14:16)

I think a better indication is when Israel starts rebuilding the temple. That is the only only way we can identify the abomination of desolation mentioned in Dan 9:27 & MT 24:15

 

[omega2xx]

"Jerusalem" tends to have a mightier opinion of itself than is really warranted.

Not in prophecy.

 

[Tumah]

Now you sound like one of our ("our") Protestants.

You're basically one and the same anyway, so I'm not overly surprised.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

 

[GodsVoice]

What Scriptural timing surrounds the coming of the "awesome day of the Lord" (Joel 2:31)?

I would suggest looking at the surrounding writings of Joel 2 &3, whereas "I will pour My Spirit on all mankind in those days. And I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, the sun will be turned to darkness and the moon into blood...For behold on those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat/judgment. Then I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations"

Judah has already been restored to Jerusalem, which was completed in 1967. Israel/Ephraim remains "scattered among the nations" until Ezekiel 37:16 is completed. We are now approaching the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem under the rule of Judah, which would be a Jubilee year, which is when land is restored to Israel. The only way the land is returned to Israel, is when "I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured...Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations......And the Lord will be king over all the earth....And Judah also will fight at Jerusalem".

"Thine enemies" already "conspire together against Thy treasured ones, They have said, Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation; That the name of Israel be remembered no more" (Psalm 83:2-4). This has been happening for the last approximately 70 years.

Why is now the opportune time for the nations to fall upon the Judah and Jerusalem at this time. It is because we have a guy who thinks he is the Muslim Mahdi, pulling the world power strings from the White House, with a Iranian chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett. The Iranians have been given the rights to produce nuclear material, the money to buy technology and weapons from Russia, and the protection the U.S. military is providing to protect the Iranian nuclear facilities, which will probably end on the 20th of January 2017. The Jubilee of the reunification of Jerusalem would be June 2017.

The scenario is that the Iranians and their front line allies will strike before 20 January 2017, and then Israel will have to strike Elam/Iran, and bring the prophecy against Elam into foreplay, whereas their people will become dispersed among the nations, and all the nations who are left, who went up against Jerusalem "will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths" (Zech 14:16)

None of us know the date of when it will occur but the signs show it's just about here. When the earth below your feet begins to shake violently, everything on earth will be destroyed in one hour.

Revelation 18
17: In one hour all this wealth has been laid waste." And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off
18: and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, "What city was like the great city?"
19: And they threw dust on their heads, as they wept and mourned, crying out, "Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! In one hour she has been laid waste.
20: Rejoice over her, O heaven, O saints and apostles and prophets, for God has given judgment for you against her!"
21: Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "So shall Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and shall be found no more;
22: and the sound of harpers and minstrels, of flute players and trumpeters, shall be heard in thee no more; and a craftsman of any craft shall be found in thee no more; and the sound of the millstone shall be heard in thee no more;
23: and the light of a lamp shall shine in thee no more; and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall be heard in thee no more; for thy merchants were the great men of the earth, and all nations were deceived by thy sorcery.
24: And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth."

 

[GodsVoice]

I think a better indication is when Israel starts rebuilding the temple. That is the only only way we can identify the abomination of desolation mentioned in Dan 9:27 & MT 24:15

Your way is much different than God's way. Only He knows what the prophecies mean.

 

[RabbiO]

"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof."

Get in my ashtray.

Your post goes beyond mere difference of opinion. Your post goes far beyond acceptable limits for even heated disagreement. I've reported your post and will let the moderators sort it out.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Your post goes beyond mere difference of opinion. Your post goes far beyond acceptable limits for even heated disagreement. I've reported your post and will let the moderators sort it out.

1 Thessalonians 4:10-11 (ESV Strong's) But we urge you, brothers, to do this more and more, 11 and to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs,

1 Peter 4:15 (ESV Strong's) 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler.

Neither one of them had a problem, why do you? It wasn't addressed to you!

 

[omega2xx]

Your way is much different than God's way. Only He knows what the prophecies mean.

It is not my way. What I posted was what Jesus said, when the apostles ask him about the end of the age. Of course we can understand prophecy. Maybe not all of them, but we can certainly understand most of them if we are willing to so some serious study.

 

[GodsVoice]

1 Thessalonians 4:10-11 (ESV Strong's) But we urge you, brothers, to do this more and more, 11 and to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs,

1 Peter 4:15 (ESV Strong's) 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler.

Neither one of them had a problem, why do you? It wasn't addressed to you!

Only God chooses the one's he wants to go preach the good news once he has taken them through the justification process which took him many years to do in my case before he made me a Gospel preacher.

Romans 10
8: But what does it say? The word is near you, on your lips and in your heart (that is, the word of faith which we preach);
15: And how can men preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news!"
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel; for Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?"
17: So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ.
18: But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have; for "Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world."

Romans 9:
28: We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.
29: For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren.
30: And those whom he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Those of us who are justified and glorified are the true Gospel preachers, not the false teachers that stand up in a church building ( false god ) built with human hands and uses their own interpretations of what they read in the Bible. They usually go to a man's school ( false god ) built with human hands ( mark of the beast ) to learn how to sound godly.

 

[GodsVoice]

It is not my way. What I posted was what Jesus said, when the apostles ask him about the end of the age. Of course we can understand prophecy. Maybe not all of them, but we can certainly understand most of them if we are willing to so some serious study.

That's what the Jews thought, too. But here's what was written about them believing in their own interpretations;

John 5
37: And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness to me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen;
38: and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe him whom he has sent.
39: You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;
40: yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.
41: I do not receive glory from men.
42: But I know that you have not the love of God within you.

2 Corinthians 3;
14: But their minds were hardened; for to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.
15: Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their minds;
16: but when a man turns to the Lord the veil is removed.
17: Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

You must be "born again" IN CHRIST and start being taught by God the knowledge required to understand any of the prophecies. Those who are not "born again" are the unspiritual one's who use their own interpretations of what they read in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 2
10: God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.
11: For what person knows a man's thoughts except the spirit of the man which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12: Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might understand the gifts bestowed on us by God.
13: And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit.
14: The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
15: The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one.
16: "For who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

 

[2ndpillar]

"Jerusalem" tends to have a mightier opinion of itself than is really warranted.

Dear kp,
You might want to take that up with Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, the "Christian", the Muslim's , and the Jews, who all have a history of fighting for the city.