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This is an authoritarian tactic, guilt by association. Trump has never endorsed it or was involved in it at all. He said he thinks some things in it ar abysmal but because he is Trump you can accuse him of anything and have no consequences.
I asked a reasonable question and I get insults. That is all you guys do. Why are not her positions on her website where they are easily found?
They already have that. Trump will not change it as he has said.
I guess if you say so. She has also said she wants to get rid of private healthcare, get rid of gas cars by 2045, she has supported defunding the police and ICE, she wants government price controls for food, wants to decriminalize illegal border crossings, said the border wall is immoral etc. Or are these still her positions? Who knows?
You bet? So you don't know either. Ok.
So because Project 2025 took an idea from the first Trump admin, then Trump endorses it all? That is not logical reasoning.
The point is that it is a horrible fascist, dangerous idea. Did you miss that part? Did you miss the part that one of the first things Biden did when he came into office was to undo Trumps fascist executive order? And do you understand how dangerous it will be for democracy if Trump gets back into office and does it again, but this time he won't wait till his term is almost over, he will do it first thing.
I hear this latest Project 2025 bogeyman being built up. How about we discuss it to see if we all need to be afraid, or whether only the crooks need to be an afraid.
She is a former officer of the court, and has committed herself to law and order. Her political career illustrates that she is ethical and can be truested with power. That is the opposite with Trump who is a convicted felon and facing more criminal trials, and has abused the office he was trusted to fulfill. She will follow the law, Trump will break the law.
But she has already, you're just not paying attention. We liberals have taken time to learn about the project 2025 and Agenda 47 plans, and they are horrific and destructive for America. You've not defended any of it.
Good, we need leaders that adjust their judgments to progress and new data. It's obvious that Biden became more progressive in later years than when he was younger, and that was a good change.
Trump is a disturbed and corrupt liar. He can't be trusted. What we know is that the 900 page project 2025 is something many former Trump officials created, and there is no reason to believe he wouldn't allow his government to implement it. It's too much of a risk to trust the criminal candidate. I never see you write a defense for why any ratonal mind would trust your criminal candidate.
How? By banning abortion related healthcare to women? What are you conservatives doing to make options BETTER?
We have that already. What are you conservatives doing to broaden options? Is your efforts against EVs your idea of "choose your own vehicle"?
We have that already, so what are you promising? If there is another bird flu outbreak that means killing many egg laying chickens, what are you conservatives going to do to stop it nect time? Let's see your plan.
We have that already. What do you want changed, the government forcing private companies to allow hate speech and more disinformation? If not, then what?
You have that right already. If you work at a company that requires vaccinations, or have kids whose school require them, then your choice to not get vaccinated will have consequences. You may complain, but you still have your right to choose. Communities and businesses have rights too, and they want the right to not expose others to the unvaccinated. See, freedom goes both ways, not just your way.
You have yet to provide evidence of this.
1. she's not authoritarian, your criminal candidate is with his intention to get revenge. 2. she was already on the ticket, and already elected as vp, and democrats had the right to change candidates. You haven't shown any evidence that how democrats selected their candidate and nominated her wasn't democratic. 3. if you guys were so adamant about democratic processes you would agree to eliminate the electoral college which is the only way Trump has a chance to win in November. You're not, so hypocrisy. 4. Harris has already been in politics for many years and shown competency and smarts, so you offer no evidence that she is unqualified.
All he has is denial. That must be some very tasty Kool-Aid that they serve the MAGA. I have not seen one that can make a consistent and logical argument. Heck, I am pretty sure that they even believe Trump when he claims that a tariff is tax that the country that that goods come from has to pay.
No, you insult our intelligence by asking questions that are readily availble to anyone who takes a few minutes to look for.
False, we have offred many links to her statments, and stated what we have heard her say. That you ignore the facts is your problem. Look it up. We have investigated the MAGA plans, and they are unacceptable for a modern and progressing nation.
She's been a candidate for how long? A month? Who needs a website when she is out talking every day in front of reporters?
No, women don't have reproductive healthcare freedom in many red states, and that is because Trump gave the far right what they wanted: a SCOTUS that would rule against Ros v Wade. MAGAs are responsble for this, and the majority in the USA don't like it. Even Kansas voted to make abortion access a constitutional right. We will see what Missouri does. If the citizens vote to allow abortion access, we could see a lot of trouble caused by conservatves.
Meaning she wants healthcare to be a right for all citizens. Buut there will still be premium healthcare access for the wealthy.
Meaning no more new gas cars, but existing gas cars will still be used. You seem to have a problem of the horse and buggy being replased by the gas powered automobile. Tough, conservatives need to acknowledge that the world progresses. Feel free to give up your internet and live in caves.
Which means taking some money and creating policing forces that are not armed and too eager to use violence to resolve conflicts. These plans include mental health officers.
False. She wants to monitor companies who are inflating the price of certain foods to make excessive profits. This isn't a new thing for governments to do. It's related to antitrust laws. But what do conservatives want to do? Let the markets dictate prices. Well that is why much of the inflation the world faced happened, the markets inflating vrices. And then you conservatives complain about inflation. You can't have it both ways.
You certainly don't. I've not heard her say anything like this. And don't forget (which I'm sure you have) that congress had a border refom bill that would have passed, but Trump sabotaged it. So you have zero right to complain about anything happening at the border.
That is not what your post was about. Your post was about comparing Trump's EO to project 2025 and tying them together.
I do and I disagree. Just because Trump does something doesn't make it fascist. Why is holding people accountable for their jobs fascist? Is it fascist when companies treat employees as at will employees? It allows the president, not just Trump, to get rid of employees making policy against what the president wants since he is the chief executive of the government. It is pretty common sense to me.
No, but believe what you want. The dems and the media lie most of the time but you don't care so what about your moral compass?
So what is in agenda 47 that you disagree with?
Yeah, he stopped making racist comments stopped supporting racists laws.
Your fixation on a document Trump had no responsibility for and denounces is weird. I don't defend project 2025, I tried to go through it chapter by chapter but you lefities just could not objectively look at it. Go back to that thread and see the lunacy the lefties posted about it.
Trump did not ban abortion. Try again.
Make the case for people to buy an EV and we will buy one. I have a right to buy the car I want, you seem to agree that a government should be able to trample my liberty and force me to buy a vehicle I don't want. That is fascism/marxism etc. That is what you stand for, anti liberty.
Yes, hate speech and misinformation is free speech. It always has been until the last 20 years or so where the authoritarian left wants to control all speech. Having the government control what we can and cannot say to this extent is fascism/marxist. OMG you are scary and must be defeated at the ballot box.
Here is the problem people that lost their jobs were hired without that requirement. The government comes along and says now you must take vaccine or be fired changing your ideas wrong and unethical. They changed the hiring agreement after the fact. My son no longer is in public school because of the vaccinations and covid nonsense. We chose that for him, so no problems with that.
If you say so I guess.
No one voted for her to be the nominee. She was picked by the dem elites. How is that democratic?
No, electoral college is what is on our constitution. We are a democratic republic not a democracy. Why are there no dems trying to get the constitution changed to a popular vote?
Trump was president and he had tangible results that benefited all americans especially minorities. Harris has been VP for 3.5 years what has she accomplished?
It is not "just because Trump does something". It was because what he does again and again and again can be considered fascist. If there was only or even a few incidents you might have a point, but his abuse of power was endless.
Ever heard of Hunter's laptop? Most of the media outlets and dems said it was false, misinformation etc. They were lying to you. It was real. I got 100's of examples like this. Your head is on the sand because of hatred for Trump. Don't vote for Trump but that does not mean the dems are a better choice.
Hunter's laptop only shows that Hunter messed around a bit. There has been no substantial evidence from it, though Marjorie Taylor Greene loves the porn from it and wants to share it with the world. Maybe that is why her husband dumper her.
My thought is that if Trump knows nothing about this, then he is disqualified by lack of knowledge of the world.