What are their names and cell phone numbers?The people who make a final judgment on the non-existence of their souls are already dead.
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What are their names and cell phone numbers?The people who make a final judgment on the non-existence of their souls are already dead.
I believe dead bodies are not useful for much other than worm bait.
Spirits still alive after the death of a body have many more options.
I have hear that if you astral project alot.You will be better of in the afterlife then people who don't.I don't know if it is true or not though.I agree.
I also believe that spirits are still alive (in a sense) after their bodies die and have choices about how they will spend their afterlife.
I have hear that if you astral project alot.You will be better of in the afterlife then people who don't.I don't know if it is true or not though.
The last one cracked me up.
Good question. Wha your answer?
I agree. What we think can't solve problems. We see that by just looking around us.Do you mean my answer to: Better you should ask: "Is there any hope for the living?"
Only if the living do more than merely hope. I've never thought that "thoughts and prayers" alone are enough to solve or salve anything.
If the soul lives on after the body dies, as I believe, then that is what is going to happen.Dead people are dead. Why be so greedy as to want more life than what is available? Ungrateful?
Sure, their bodies are dead, but their spirits are not dead. Otherwise you would not see dead spirits wandering around wondering what happened to them.Yep, dead people are definitely dead.
Do you mean these passages that say we have a soul?I think this sounds like it makes sense.But I have read other passages that confuse me.
The "dead" are on the astral plane doing past life reviews for some time. After which they are reborn in new bodies.
Where did you learn those passages from the Bible, or are you using some search engine on some site? I don't think you have Ocean last I knew.Do you mean these passages that say we have a soul?
Psalm 42:6 O my God, my soul is cast down within me: therefore will I remember thee from the land of Jordan, and of the Hermonites, from the hill Mizar.
Psalm 43:5 Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God.
2 Kings 4:27 And when she came to the man of God to the hill, she caught him by the feet: but Gehazi came near to thrust her away. And the man of God said, Let her alone; for her soul is vexed within her: and the Lord hath hid it from me, and hath not told me.
Some scriptures I found answers these questions...Are the dead alive somewhere?
Can the dead interact with the living... or dead?
Is there any hope for the dead... can the dead live again?
Some scriptures I found answers these questions...
Genesis 3:19) In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”
(Psalm 104:29) When you hide your face, they are disturbed. If you take away their spirit, they die and return to the dust.
(Psalm 146:3, 4) 3 Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.
(Ecclesiastes 3:20) All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust.
(Ecclesiastes 9:4-10) 4 There is hope for whoever is among the living, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun. ... 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.
(Ecclesiastes 12:7) Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.
(Isaiah 26:19) “Your dead will live. My corpses will rise up. Awake and shout joyfully, You residents in the dust! For your dew is as the dew of the morning, And the earth will let those powerless in death come to life.
(Hosea 13:14) From the power of the Grave I will redeem them; From death I will recover them. Where are your stings, O Death? Where is your destructiveness, O Grave? Compassion will be concealed from my eyes.
(Mark 12:26) But concerning the dead being raised up, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the account about the thornbush, that God said to him: ‘I am the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob’?
(John 5:28, 29) 28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
(John 11:24, 25) 24 Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life;
(Acts 24:15) And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
(1 Corinthians 15:21) For since death came through a man, resurrection of the dead also comes through a man.
Basically, those scriptures tell us
- the dead are not alive anywhere... except in God's memory. Luke 20:38
- the dead cannot communicate with either the living, or the dead. They cannot do anything. They are inactive - in the powerful grip of death.
- the dead can... will live again, by means of a resurrection, which God promises, and is both willing and able to carry out.
On examining these scriptures, do you agree this is what we find?
They were posted by @Frank Goad on another thread.Where did you learn those passages from the Bible, or are you using some search engine on some site? I don't think you have Ocean last I knew.
Good! Now I can check to see if I get an Email notification for this.They were posted by @Frank Goad on another thread.
You won't get an e-mail notification because I think it was posted last week. I forgot the name of the thread.Good! Now I can check to see if I get an Email notification for this.
I got this except for the second part which apparently was edited in later. It was in normal Email, not spam.You won't get an e-mail notification because I think it was posted last week. I forgot the name of the thread.
Here, I found it for you:
Do these bible verses imply humans have a soul inside them?
Do these bible verses imply humans have a soul inside them?Yes or no?I think Yes.:) Psalm 42:6 and Psalm 43:5 And 2 Kings 4:27.www.religiousforums.com
Thanks for that. Yes, you are a person, and a life, or have life.Some scriptures I found answers these questions...
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”
The physical body will return to dust, but YOU are not your body. You are a soul.
The Hebrew word here is ruach - (רוּחַ) which is breath, wind, spirit.Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.
Within the context of this verse the spirit is the soul. When the physical body dies, the soul returns to the God in heaven who gave it life.
You speak of the soul as though it is something that exists on its own.The physical body is only necessary so the soul can operate while we are living in a physical body.
Did you put that correctly, or should it be the other way around?The physical body can be likened to a software program that allows a computer to function.
How about this. The spirit is the CPU that allows the computer - the body, - to work. The software, is the soul.The computer does not die after the software program is uninstalled, it continues to exist.
Likewise, the soul does not die after the physical body dies, it continues to exist.
Where can I find that in the Bible?After the physical body dies the soul is raised as a spiritual body and goes to heaven where it continues to live forever.
True, Paul said, "I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption." (1 Corinthians 15:50)The physical body cannot exist in the Kingdom of God in heaven. That is why it needs to be transformed into a spiritual body.
You quoted it. Did you see it?This transformation is called the resurrection.
1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation
40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.
44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.
50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.
51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
That is cherry picking of a sort, picking the translation that reflects your worldview. We should impartially look at the translations. We should also not pick those that do the interpretation as it translates.can live with the one or two that used their own view, but I like how the Amplified, put it.
Amplified Bible
Listen very carefully, I tell you a mystery [a secret truth decreed by God and previously hidden, but now revealed]; we will not all sleep [in death], but we will all be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed],
Of course you do. It's what you want, yes?If the soul lives on after the body dies, as I believe, then that is what is going to happen.
Because there is no basis in fact that it's true, and the only reason anyone hears about this idea is ancient religious lore. For any modern person to want to believe this idea is true is a sort of self-service, a sort of immortality, which I guess offsets the fear of death. That is a lot of mind drama.What is greedy or ungrateful about that? It doesn't mean people are not grateful for the life they have on earth.