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Where did Jesus go?

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Want to say His Body is done?...fine with me.

But if Someone like Him should fail to crossover....the rest of us are dust.

Could be turning to dust is all you can do.

I still believe I will go on.

You will go on.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I believe Jesus was resurrected and brought by God to God's right hand where he lives but not in flesh. He appeared in flesh to witnesses and he was risen in what appeared to be flesh but I think it's a stretch to say those visions mean he IS in flesh. When he was flesh he was seen walking on water as a spirit. Why not believe the person of Jesus was spirit because he walked on water? I think it is not fair to say he being seen in the flesh after his death means he is in flesh now but saying he being seen as a spirit walking on water doesn't mean he is a spirit.

He said he would be "with" his disciples (Matthew 28:20). If he is "coming again" but he is here with his disciples where did he go that he may come again?


If your going to talk about apologetics instead of history, you might as well use your imagination, because none of the books are clear on that topic.

Paul places Jesus in heaven. The other gospels do not state this is error. So then your left cherry picking OT and NT scripture on exactly what that concept is, and then most people take it out of context, because the concept evolved.

Good luck trying to determine what is not written, and for the most part is viewed as mythology by historians.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
You will go on.

To bad statements like that are only apologetic and carry no credibility or merit.

Mans biggest fear, the end of everything he worked for all his life. And yet even now people still choose top look at ancient men's explanation's, wishes wants and desires.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
In your mind. It's a narrative with nothing for history to go on except for those that believe on faith.

Wrong.

You hold a minority position based on your personal faith, not the evidence the rest of us in the majority recognize.


Now quick!!!! come up and claim were all biased and apologist!!! :slap:
 

steeltoes

Junior member
Mythicist fallacy, look it up.
We have no way of knowing whether Jesus is historical or mythical. We have evidence of religious texts and that is all, no artifacts, no contemporaries, nothing but a story and some religious rhetoric from Paul. It requires a leap of faith to assert anything historical from that story, we have religious texts and a religion that followed the texts, just as it does to this day.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
We have no way of knowing whether Jesus is historical or mythical. We have evidence of religious texts and that is all, no artifacts, no contemporaries, nothing but a story and some religious rhetoric from Paul. It requires a leap of faith to assert anything historical from that story, we have religious texts and a religion that followed the texts, just as it does to this day.

You don't have the qualification nor credibility to make any assumption regarding this topic.

You surely have nothing that can go against the status quo and taught be credible professors, as reported by the consensus of scholars.
 

steeltoes

Junior member
You don't have the qualification nor credibility to make any assumption regarding this topic.

You surely have nothing that can go against the status quo and taught be credible professors, as reported by the consensus of scholars.
The majority of them believe an invisible God resides in the heavens, that doesn't make it so.
 
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steeltoes

Junior member
Provide links, we are tired of your unsubstantiated comments.


You have no credibility
Provide links for what, I'm not the one making claims about Jesus. You know all about Jesus and his place in history, you know based on majority opinion because that means something to you.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
So now you cant read English?


I was quite clear


Start posting links to back up your statements, they so far have been for the most part, unsubstantiated.

Unsubstantiated? Like the historicity of Jesus for example? Gotta love the irony there.
 

arthra

Baha'i
Jesus said He had "many things to say unto you but ye cannot bear them now..". John 16:12 - 13 but He promised the Spirit of Truth woukld come and that "He will guide you unto all truth."

Before He died on the cross the Gospel of Luke has that He commended His Spirit to God...

[FONT=&quot]....and when Jesus had cried out in a loud voice, He said, "Father, into Your hands I commit my Spirit" with these words he breathed His last.

~ Luke 22:46

[/FONT]The Quran in a compliment to this verse cited above has

"Allah raised Him up unto Himself..."

Surih 4: verse 158

His promised return has already been fulfilled.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
If your going to talk about apologetics instead of history, you might as well use your imagination, because none of the books are clear on that topic.

Paul places Jesus in heaven. The other gospels do not state this is error. So then your left cherry picking OT and NT scripture on exactly what that concept is, and then most people take it out of context, because the concept evolved.

Good luck trying to determine what is not written, and for the most part is viewed as mythology by historians.
It is spiritually discerned, something you can't do, that is why you don't understand. Your mistake is to think that no one else can either
 
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