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Where is freedom of speech?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.
Freedom of speech does not include misinformation without the right to reply.
It does not include hate speech

During WW2, Lord Haw Haw was hung for promoting the German/Nazi line on radio
During any war there is an information war too, every country needs to control it.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.
No surprise. They've been demonizing political dissidents and lying about them all year. They've been shutting people down and canceling anyone who doesn't toe the line. Why is anyone surprised they will do it to the Russians as well? There is no freedom of speech unless we fight for it. And I mean fight politically of course not with violence.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.
If I came into your mosque and started telling lies about your faith, would that be all fine & dandy with you?

We are dealing with a fascist tyrant who tells one lie after another so as to attract support for what he's doing.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Freedom of speech does not extend to non-citizens, nor to the propaganda of other governments.
This limited freedom of speech.
I believe Western media full of propaganda against the other. In news and movies.
We experience that by lie of Bush when invade iraq because the lie destruction weapons.

"I believe you are listing to what they want you to hear. "that's all media rule.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
If I came into your mosque and started telling lies about your faith, would that be all fine & dandy with you?

We are dealing with a fascist tyrant who tells one lie after another so as to attract support for what he's doing.
No good example.
Because mosque not media. Not claim freedom of speech
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.
If freedom of speech includes the entitlement for cable TV companies to carry my content, where can I sign up to get a channel of my own?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Freedom of speech does not include misinformation without the right to reply.
It does not include hate speech

During WW2, Lord Haw Haw was hung for promoting the German/Nazi line on radio
During any war there is an information war too, every country needs to control it.
We didn't learnt before . We thought freedom of speech had no limits. Accept others opinions.

Seems the war change values. Show real face.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.

IMO, you have the freedom (i.e. you won't be arrested) for what you say.
You could be arrested for any harm caused by what you say. You can be held criminally libel for any harm caused by what you say.

If you could prove the harm caused by the media, probably difficult but it's been done before, you'd probably have a case. Not because of what they said but because of the harm it caused.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
If freedom of speech includes the entitlement for cable TV companies to carry my content, where can I sign up to get a channel of my own?
West value is decline to third world values to reject others opinion.And accuse others not acceptable opinion.Btw They banned Sports and Music... Etc
The title of freedom of speech. by accept one opinion.?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.
Could you be specific?

In USA, our media are privately operated, & allowed to
censor themselves & their platforms as they see fit.
But this is the opposite of censorship, & the result is
great diversity of opinion.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This limited freedom of speech.
I believe Western media full of propaganda against the other. In news and movies.
We experience that by lie of Bush when invade iraq because the lie destruction weapons.

"I believe you are listing to what they want you to hear. "that's all media rule.

The lies of Russia and China are total. The lies in Iran and other Muslim majority countries are serious as well. Why not call out the lies in your own media.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Could you be specific?

In USA, our media are privately operated, & allowed to
censor themselves & their platforms as they see fit.
But this is the opposite of censorship, & the result is
great diversity of opinion.
Russia channel today banned in USA. And before in Europe
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The lies of Russia and China are total. The lies in Iran and other Muslim majority countries are serious as well. Why not call out the lies in your own media.
I believe all liers in media. They just want you hear what they want.
Western media and politicsc lied before about many things
 
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