Where is freedom of speech?

[Godobeyer]

Freedom of speech doesn't mean that media outlets are obligated to provide a soapbox for anyone who wants one.

The definition of freedom of speech in West get great damage by ban Russian media in my opinion.
Russia is wining now by ground and by fact oil and gaz prices high. losing media .
Now it's known media war is almost similar in value to real war on ground .

 

[Godobeyer]

This sounds like hypocrisy. I don't even know what exactly happened, but I doubt you actually care about freedom of speech in your very own country. Can I go to a TV Channel in your country and say whatever I want about Prophet Muhammad? Would you defend my right to do so?

I believe the subject:
Freedom of speech is disable and enable ,on the benefits in West.
My topic about Russia and Ukraine conflict , we are see values of freedom of speech is dispears in wars.
even moral rule of sports (don't mix sport with politics) gone too .
FIFA and others intervenir in politics.shame on them.

 

[Godobeyer]

So where is this censorship of Russian government broadcasting?

They banned in Europe , I guess it's fake news about USA banned RT and sputnik recently

 

[Koldo]

I believe the subject:
Freedom of speech is disable and enable ,on the benefits in West.
My topic about Russia and Ukraine conflict , we are see values of freedom of speech is dispears in wars.
even moral rule of sports (don't mix sport with politics) gone too .
FIFA and others intervenir in politics.shame on them.

The subject is the utter hypocrisy in only caring about freedom of speech when it is convenient to you.

 

[Godobeyer]

The subject is the utter hypocrisy in only caring about freedom of speech when it is convenient to you.

Well said !

 

[Augustus]

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.

Russia restricts more Russian channels than the West.

Also freedom of speech is about the ability to say what you want, not about the ability for for corporations to have broadcast licences.

For example, you can repeat all the pro-Russia propaganda you like and no one will send you to jail.

If you were in Russia and you went against the official line, you probably wouldn't be so well protected by the law.

 

[Revoltingest]

I believe the subject:
Freedom of speech is disable and enable ,on the benefits in West.
My topic about Russia and Ukraine conflict , we are see values of freedom of speech is dispears in wars.
even moral rule of sports (don't mix sport with politics) gone too .
FIFA and others intervenir in politics.shame on them.

Where's the evidence of this censorship?
I didn't see it in your earlier link.

 

[rosends]

Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.

"Freedom of Speech" is a shorthand for any number of different local laws and rules regarding what is allowed to be presented in the public sphere vs. what is subject to governmental prior restraint. The specific laws vary country to country. The overarching concept, because it is just a general concept, has no single and specific set of rules that apply to all.
One thing that many places make clear, is that freedom to speak is not the same as having access to a medium that has limited channels. Not everyone can say anything wherever he or she wants to. Cerain content is subject to restraint, other material is liable to legal recompense. It isn't simple or universal.

 

[We Never Know]

Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.

I see some replies of "am I free to come to your place and say so an so with out offended you"

You are free to do so but that doesnt mean you won't make people mad.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences.

 

[Godobeyer]

Where's the evidence of this censorship?
I didn't see it in your earlier link.

EU imposes sanctions on state-owned outlets RT/Russia Today and Sputnik's broadcasting in the EU

Facebook owner Meta will block access to Russia's RT, Sputnik in EU

FIFA/UEFA suspend Russian clubs and national teams from all competitions

For USA I guess just flights,still Russia media work there

 

[Twilight Hue]

Hello

I think by restricted Russian channels in Europe and USA. The West act like third world.
So by claim freedom of speech in West gone. It's become freedom of my opinion side only.

I don't disagree. All you have to do is look at the people who enforce free speech censorship and you will know who the real scumbags are.

 

[Godobeyer]

"Freedom of Speech" is a shorthand for any number of different local laws and rules regarding what is allowed to be presented in the public sphere vs. what is subject to governmental prior restraint. The specific laws vary country to country. The overarching concept, because it is just a general concept, has no single and specific set of rules that apply to all.
One thing that many places make clear, is that freedom to speak is not the same as having access to a medium that has limited channels. Not everyone can say anything wherever he or she wants to. Cerain content is subject to restraint, other material is liable to legal recompense. It isn't simple or universal.

In politics and media it's run by benefits , what they want you hear, , because this act of ban Russian Channels I see ,it's against Western values of freedom of speech .

 

[Twilight Hue]

That link says only that those stations must
register as foreign agents. It doesn't say
they're banned.

I still have access to RT.

Good observation.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Freedom of speech does not include misinformation without the right to reply.
It does not include hate speech

During WW2, Lord Haw Haw was hung for promoting the German/Nazi line on radio
During any war there is an information war too, every country needs to control it.

The truth hallmark of free speech is point/counterpoint.

To do so otherwise is advocating authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

 

[Twilight Hue]

In politics and media it's run by benefits , what they want you hear, , because this act of ban Russian Channels I see ,it's against Western values of freedom of speech .

All it takes is finding out who advocates the censorship.

It's those people you have to watch out for.

 

[Father Heathen]

Q

Freedom of speech always had limits; hate speech was always excluded.

Not in the U.S. but that's another discussion/debate.

 

[Father Heathen]

The truth hallmark of free speech is point/counterpoint.

To do so otherwise is advocating authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

Right. If a point of view is wrong, then it should be examined and then demonstrated why it's wrong. Education combats ignorance. Censorship only fosters it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Right. If a point of view is wrong, then it should be examined and then demonstrated why it's wrong. Education combats ignorance. Censorship only fosters it.

Yep. It's why I support reinstatement of the fairness doctrine.

 

[Father Heathen]

The definition of freedom of speech in West get great damage by ban Russian media in my opinion.
Russia is wining now by ground and by fact oil and gaz prices high. losing media .
Now it's known media war is almost similar in value to real war on ground .

What's up with muslims fawning over Russia lately? They don't have the friendliest history with Islamic factions and regimes.

 

[Revoltingest]

EU imposes sanctions on state-owned outlets RT/Russia Today and Sputnik's broadcasting in the EU

Facebook owner Meta will block access to Russia's RT, Sputnik in EU

FIFA/UEFA suspend Russian clubs and national teams from all competitions

For USA I guess just flights,still Russia media work there

Facebook is a private platform with terms of service
that can get one kicked off if violated. RF is that way
too. It isn't censorship in the sense that government
is doing it. Contrast that with Russia & China, which
don't allow any dissent in any media.