(where is) media coverage of Trump's confusing Tuesday night rally

[F1fan]

I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but...no. He didn't slur in what I heard, and his not talking was obviously because they were loudly playing music overhead for some dramatic pause.

Trump is deranged, but in his usual neo-fascist way he's had for years. Biden's cognitive decline is a different animal.

Good point. Biden’s normal state is a normal human being and when he has an episode it is obvious. And concerning.

Trump has been crazy and disturbed for a decade and as he continues to be disturbed no one notices. Trump’s normal is abnormal and it is more concerning than Biden showing signs of decline. We have a VP for a reason.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Biden's handlers deserve blame for covering up
his decline. Now those chickens are coming
home to roost. It would've been better to be
candid & honest, so that another candidate
could've been anointed.

Well, blaming people will make it all better. Thanks.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I judge them by their behavior. And I didn't say anything about the color of their skins. They are wealthy and old and they are males but I am judging them by their competency or what I perceive as their competency, and their behaviors.

Good job calling it out.

Some people can't help but to tactfully add in things themselves like skin color that you never said yourself. Be watchful for it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, blaming people will make it all better. Thanks.

You think they don't deserve blame for
covering up something important to voters?
I find it reprehensible.

 

[Revoltingest]

Good job calling it out.

Some people can't help but to tactfully add in things themselves like skin color that you never said yourself. Be watchful for it.

My mistake.
Her post was ageist, classist, & sexist...not racist.
So slightly less bigoted than I thought.
Will you count my post as another win in your
campaign to make Trump President again?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You think they don't deserve blame for
covering up something important to voters?
I find it reprehensible.

"The best-laid schemes o'mice an' men Gang aft agley." (Robbie Burns)

My point isn't blame -- my point is that Trump will destroy much that is good about the U.S. And how do you stop it? That's all I care about!

I tell you frankly, I'd prefer to see Amy Klobuchar at the top of the ticket, but she's not. I'd love Liz Cheney to flip parties and have a go, but she won't. Harris is VP, but she is not the incumbent, and her "achievements" don't register across the 230 million or so Americans.

So pick one. Then describe the path to 270.

 

[Left Coast]

Good point. Biden’s normal state is a normal human being and when he has an episode it is obvious. And concerning.

Trump has been crazy and disturbed for a decade and as he continues to be disturbed no one notices. Trump’s normal is abnormal and it is more concerning than Biden showing signs of decline. We have a VP for a reason.

They're both concerning for different reasons. It's not a good look for us as a country to have a man at the helm who is showing signs of dementia (imagine how he'll be in 4 years?). Trump is terrible for all the reasons we've discussed around here ad nauseum. The trouble is, no one is really polling better than Joe on the Dem side. So if he steps down, it becomes even more likely that Trump wins.

Rock and a hard place, no doubt.

 

[Twilight Hue]

My mistake.
Her post was ageist, classist, & sexist...not racist.
So slightly less bigoted than I thought.
Will you count my post as another win in your
campaign to make Trump President again?

Oh you don't have to worry about that.

I'm not voting for anybody this year. I'm sitting it out.

But I still like the interaction with debating and discussions although granted, mostly debating , and point - counterpoint in non debate sections.

 

[Twilight Hue]

.....

Rock and a hard place, no doubt.

Well for half the country anyways. I don't think the rest of the country sees it as a rock and a hard place, but rather fairly easy and straightforward in nature.

 

[McBell]

You think they don't deserve blame for
covering up something important to voters?
I find it reprehensible.

Election Interference

 

[F1fan]

They're both concerning for different reasons. It's not a good look for us as a country to have a man at the helm who is showing signs of dementia (imagine how he'll be in 4 years?).

Well there’s looks, and then there’s how the global policies of the USA is being implemented and helping our allies, both military and economic. If Biden wins then the stability the world has now will continue. If Trump wins then there’s a lot of uncertainty and fear, and a greater risk of war and economic collapse. I suggest the USA can handle the look of a president who is declining versus the Trump effects.

I disagreed with Biden running agajn and I think it’s poor judgement. Unless Biden decides to drop out in the next few weeks everyone needs to back him and Harris. Everyone. No naysayers.

Trump is terrible for all the reasons we've discussed around here ad nauseum. The trouble is, no one is really polling better than Joe on the Dem side. So if he steps down, it becomes even more likely that Trump wins.

Rock and a hard place, no doubt.

I don’t think the polling means much. Romney was winning. Clinton was winning. Many who ended up losing the presidency in the last few decades were winning before the election. I’m worried but Trump is so ****ing insane that I can’t see him getting the votes.

 

[Left Coast]

Well there’s looks, and then there’s how the global policies of the USA is being implemented and helping our allies, both military and economic. If Biden wins then the stability the world has now will continue.

I don't know if that's an obvious given. Imagine a man with worsening dementia attempting to negotiate with Russia, or China, or Iran, or Hamas. A weakening Commander-in-Chief will influence how our global opponents will behave. And it won't be in a direction that's favorable to us and our allies.

I disagreed with Biden running agajn and I think it’s poor judgement. Unless Biden decides to drop out in the next few weeks everyone needs to back him and Harris. Everyone. No naysayers.

I certainly prefer Biden over Trump. But I also don't have any rose-colored glasses about how our circumstances will worsen with Biden remaining in office.

I don’t think the polling means much. Romney was winning. Clinton was winning. Many who ended up losing the presidency in the last few decades were winning before the election. I’m worried but Trump is so ****ing insane that I can’t see him getting the votes.

That's what people said in 2016. And we're in a weaker position now than we were in 2020. Do not be surprised if Trump pulls it off again.

 

[fantome profane]

I'd love Liz Cheney to flip parties and have a go, but she won't.

That surprises me. I know Liz Cheney did a good job in the Jan 6th committee, and showed a lot of courage in doing that. But her policy positions for her entire career have been horrible on so many points, she supported things that I think you would find horrendous, military hawk, social regressive, wanted to repeal Obama care, supported a regressive tax policy, cutting social programs etc. Just horrible.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Good point. Biden’s normal state is a normal human being and when he has an episode it is obvious. And concerning.

Trump has been crazy and disturbed for a decade and as he continues to be disturbed no one notices. Trump’s normal is abnormal and it is more concerning than Biden showing signs of decline. We have a VP for a reason.

YES! You caught it! He has set his own expectations among his grovellers, and it's so low, nothing he does could possibly upset them.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That surprises me. I know Liz Cheney did a good job in the Jan 6th committee, and showed a lot of courage in doing that. But her policy positions for her entire career have been horrible on so many points, she supported things that I think you would find horrendous, military hawk, social regressive, wanted to repeal Obama care, supported a regressive tax policy, cutting social programs etc. Just horrible.

I think she's growing. She just hasn't had any opportunity to show it, outside of her work on the J6 committee.

You can hear from how people talk about just ordinary stuff a bit about who they are, and I find her a reasonable woman. But more than that, her family, history and state give her credibilitiy among Republicans, too. I know people think I'm a huge leftie, but that's not true. I am a huge proponent of bipartisan search for common ground, and I think she could do that.

 

[Kathryn]

My mistake.
Her post was ageist, classist, & sexist...not racist.
So slightly less bigoted than I thought.
Will you count my post as another win in your
campaign to make Trump President again?

Ageist - I am in my sixties
Classist - I have no worries and am comfortably retired.
Sexist - I am a white American woman.

But hey, I'm not a racist!

My mom died with dementia. She actually died of a broken arm because they couldn't do surgery on it because of the dementia, and it needed to be set and she needed rehab but none of that was happening due to the dementia, which was pretty advanced. So she died with dementia as a leading cause, as did my MIL. I absolutely hate dementia. But one thing I learned is that it's probably best to allow a person with dementia to just do their thing as much as possible, without arguing with them. Arguing with them basically frustrates both of you, but more you than them. I can't imagine trying to be President of the United States of America. My mom reached a point where she couldn't even sign her name, and this was months and months before she died. Poor Biden. I do feel bad for him. But he needs to be allowed to rest and live out his life in peace.

 

[F1fan]

I don't know if that's an obvious given. Imagine a man with worsening dementia attempting to negotiate with Russia, or China, or Iran, or Hamas. A weakening Commander-in-Chief will influence how our global opponents will behave. And it won't be in a direction that's favorable to us and our allies.

That is a concern, but the leaders meeting is more of a formality, and the real diplomacy is done by others who have a vast amount of specific knowledge about matters that leaders don't have. So I'm not concerned about his decline. These American politics focus too much on the personality, which is perhaps something that has come about since Reagan.

I certainly prefer Biden over Trump. But I also don't have any rose-colored glasses about how our circumstances will worsen with Biden remaining in office.

Why should we? We need stability and competency. The whole planet does, and Trump is way too unstable and unpredictable to be trusted. And it's not just Trump as a personality, but the people he will hire who are not well informed or qualified for these important jobs. That's the real problem with the Biden versus Trump thing, the people who run the government, including the foreign diplomats. We know what Biden is doing and how it is maintaining and working towards defending democracy and our allies. With Trump there's no telling if Eastern Europe will be under threat, and involve NATO in the colflict with Russia. There are cascading effects that go way beyond the personalities of the president.

That's what people said in 2016. And we're in a weaker position now than we were in 2020. Do not be surprised if Trump pulls it off again.

There are too many variables to predict the outcome, but in the big picture Trump is vastly a worse candidate than Biden, and most everyone knows it.

 

[Left Coast]

That is a concern, but the leaders meeting is more of a formality, and the real diplomacy is done by others who have a vast amount of specific knowledge about matters that leaders don't have. So I'm not concerned about his decline. These American politics focus too much on the personality, which is perhaps something that has come about since Reagan.

It's both/and. The buck stops with the President in terms of foreign relations. I am concerned that cognitive decline will impact his ability to competently serve as President. And I don't think his role in government is mere window dressing. He's not the King of England. He's the President. He has real executive power. I know you know that, I'm merely emphasizing the point. We can both hate Trump and also recognize that Biden's performance is almost surely going to decline in the next 4 years, and that's going to have real deleterious effects on our ability to lead the free world. If you haven't listened to the press conference he gave today, it was not terribly reassuring.

 

[Left Coast]

There are too many variables to predict the outcome, but in the big picture Trump is vastly a worse candidate than Biden, and most everyone knows it.

Unfortunately, that's just not true. Most everyone doesn't know it. Which we can see in poll after poll.

 

[Revoltingest]

"The best-laid schemes o'mice an' men Gang aft agley." (Robbie Burns)

My point isn't blame -- my point is that Trump will destroy much that is good about the U.S. And how do you stop it? That's all I care about!

I agree.
But I like blaming people for things at times.

I tell you frankly, I'd prefer to see Amy Klobuchar at the top of the ticket, but she's not. I'd love Liz Cheney to flip parties and have a go, but she won't. Harris is VP, but she is not the incumbent, and her "achievements" don't register across the 230 million or so Americans.

So pick one. Then describe the path to 270.

We play the hand we're dealt.
(Did I use that correctly?)