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(where is) media coverage of Trump's confusing Tuesday night rally

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ageist - I am in my sixties
Classist - I have no worries and am comfortably retired.
Sexist - I am a white American woman.

But hey, I'm not a racist!
Hey, don't deny it.
I'm a racist, sexist, etc, etc.
Who isn't, eh.
We try to rein it in, & occasionally fail.
I'm not better than you, that's for darn sure.
My mom died with dementia. She actually died of a broken arm because they couldn't do surgery on it because of the dementia, and it needed to be set and she needed rehab but none of that was happening due to the dementia, which was pretty advanced. So she died with dementia as a leading cause, as did my MIL. I absolutely hate dementia. But one thing I learned is that it's probably best to allow a person with dementia to just do their thing as much as possible, without arguing with them. Arguing with them basically frustrates both of you, but more you than them. I can't imagine trying to be President of the United States of America. My mom reached a point where she couldn't even sign her name, and this was months and months before she died. Poor Biden. I do feel bad for him. But he needs to be allowed to rest and live out his life in peace.
Yuck.
I'm taking precautions against sinking into dementia.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
It's both/and. The buck stops with the President in terms of foreign relations. I am concerned that cognitive decline will impact his ability to competently serve as President. And I don't think his role in government is mere window dressing. He's not the King of England. He's the President. He has real executive power. I know you know that, I'm merely emphasizing the point. We can both hate Trump and also recognize that Biden's performance is almost surely going to decline in the next 4 years, and that's going to have real deleterious effects on our ability to lead the free world. If you haven't listened to the press conference he gave today, it was not terribly reassuring.
I understand this. But it's not as if Biden will be confused and order misslies fired on the Soviet Union and the orders will be carried out. That is more of a concern for a Trump administration filled with obedient ghosts. Reagan was failing in his last two years and it was evident. He was much worse than Biden. Like Reagan Biden has competent people in the administration who will keep the train on the rails. If at some time he is clearly unfit to do the job he will surely resign. Or Harris will step in on an emergency basis.

Unfortunately, that's just not true. Most everyone doesn't know it. Which we can see in poll after poll.
I have seen interviews with Trump supporters who know he's not a good guy, but they want what he offers. We can't presume all voter are rational thinkers with sound mental health. If the USA was a nation of well educated and mature individuals Trump would be nowhere in politics. He appeals to the lowest common denominator of citizens, and that says something very bad about America. It's bad luck.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
I understand this. But it's not as if Biden will be confused and order misslies fired on the Soviet Union and the orders will be carried out.

The effects will be more subtle. But serious nonetheless.

That is more of a concern for a Trump administration filled with obedient ghosts.

I seriously doubt Trump will order US missiles to be fired directly on Russia. If anything he'd more likely cave to Russia and allow them to annex eastern Ukraine.

I have seen interviews with Trump supporters who know he's not a good guy, but they want what he offers. We can't presume all voter are rational thinkers with sound mental health. If the USA was a nation of well educated and mature individuals Trump would be nowhere in politics. He appeals to the lowest common denominator of citizens, and that says something very bad about America. It's bad luck.

On that we agree.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Biden's handlers deserve blame for covering up
his decline. Now those chickens are coming
home to roost. It would've been better to be
candid & honest, so that another candidate
could've been anointed.
Unfortunately, that ship has sailed.
Changing candidates at this stage would most likely result in a loss of voters. If the parties had some responsible adults, they'd get together and agree on a bipartisan strategy to retire their current candidates. It would be beneficial for the US.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Hey, don't deny it.
I'm a racist, sexist, etc, etc.
Who isn't, eh.
We try to rein it in, & occasionally fail.
I'm not better than you, that's for darn sure.

Well, I don't think I am those things but maybe I am, who knows?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I have seen interviews with Trump supporters who know he's not a good guy, but they want what he offers. We can't presume all voter are rational thinkers with sound mental health. If the USA was a nation of well educated and mature individuals Trump would be nowhere in politics. He appeals to the lowest common denominator of citizens, and that says something very bad about America. It's bad luck.
Keep telling yourself that. It can't hurt.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Keep telling yourself that. It can't hurt.
Personally I like to tell myself the truth, but in this case it does hurt. It hurts that so many in our country are far enough gone that they'll vote for Trump. It sucks that someone so obviously unfit for office and who actively harms his own constituents as well as our country could even be remotely an option.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Unfortunately, that ship has sailed.
Changing candidates at this stage would most likely result in a loss of voters. If the parties had some responsible adults, they'd get together and agree on a bipartisan strategy to retire their current candidates. It would be beneficial for the US.
Unfortunately, the available evidence suggests that what is beneficial to the U.S. is not at top-of-mind for many partisans in politics.
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member

I can't wait for all of the media coverage of Trump's confusing Tuesday night rally


Folks, I’m worried about Donald Trump and his mental decline, which was on vivid display at a rally Tuesday night on one of his Florida golf courses.

During the event, the former president slurred words, claimed his son Don Jr. is married when he’s actually just engaged, and consistently described the world around him in a manner wholly inconsistent with reality.

During one heartbreaking moment, Trump stopped talking for a full minute ... He sweatily moved his head back and forth and randomly pointed at people, appearing to not know exactly what he was doing.

It's clear Trump lacks the mental capacity to run against Biden

It was tough to watch, but there’s little question the 78-year-old no longer has the faculties needed to take on President Joe Biden in the race for the presidency. It’s now up to Trump’s family and responsible members of the Republican Party to find a way for him to gracefully step aside and let a younger and more competent candidate take over, possibly someone like Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.


Its dead easy to unseat Biden.On the next CNN debate the interviewer asks both .Mentally please add:

42+78+19-15 add double.


Bet they both get in wrong.This when the paper answers they jot down are checked.Next step new candidates.The Democrats have it easy here.Select the candidate 80% of female voters want and love.You can add this to the 70% of male candidates.

Yep Go Go Go George Clooney. Follow the steps of Ronald Reagan and Zelensky. Some people seek greatness.Some have it thrust on them.

Meanwhile D Trump will be the next POTUS. Confirming his love affair with Putin.He just confirmed he proposes Putin be allowed to keep all sized "Russian" sorry "Ukrainian" territory. Drat Biden has us all doing it now.Irrespective of weapon cuts and the fact Ukraine is NOT asking for USA troops.

If Ms K Harris runs for POTUS she will easily sweep New York and Washington and some states.She will lose the electoral college .(Due to voters in the South/Rural USA).Giving the future President Mr Trump an even bigger win.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Of the two candidates, which do you think would step down under the 25th Amendment if they are elected and sworn in? Which one would have advisors and leaders of his party who would advise him to step down and initiate 25th Amendment proceedings? Only one: Joe Biden
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Of the two candidates, which do you think would step down under the 25th Amendment if they are elected and sworn in? Which one would have advisors and leaders of his party who would advise him to step down and initiate 25th Amendment proceedings? Only one: Joe Biden
Right. Biden is lucid enough to have built a competent and ethical administration. What Trump would create is an extremist cult of loyalists who will not follow laws, norms, or decency as they carry out a terrible agenda. Even if democrats get the House and Senate Trump will use his powers to create an indepence from the law, even to the point where he would create his own protection force. He would declare an emergency and use executive powers illegally.

I don't think many citizens understand who Trump is and the degree of trouble he is in, and what he will do to avoid accountability. He is truly a dangerous man who has way too many loyalists.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Right. Biden is lucid enough to have built a competent and ethical administration. What Trump would create is an extremist cult of loyalists who will not follow laws, norms, or decency as they carry out a terrible agenda. Even if democrats get the House and Senate Trump will use his powers to create an indepence from the law, even to the point where he would create his own protection force. He would declare an emergency and use executive powers illegally.
Wouldn't Trump's administration also carry out his plans? That is not the reason he wouldn't step down. First, he is a megalomaniac, he'd never cede control, second, he needs the immunity of the office.

(Oh, and I'm not so sure Biden would give up his post without a fight, either. He could have simply said he wouldn't run again.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In what way would you say she's competent?
Signs of mental decline lacking.
Average intelligence....more or less.
Old enuf.
Citizen.
Able to play the game of politics & legislation.

Strange beliefs & nasty politics aren't a disqualifier.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Its dead easy to unseat Biden.On the next CNN debate the interviewer asks both .Mentally please add:

42+78+19-15 add double.


Bet they both get in wrong.This when the paper answers they jot down are checked.Next step new candidates.The Democrats have it easy here.Select the candidate 80% of female voters want and love.You can add this to the 70% of male candidates.

Yep Go Go Go George Clooney. Follow the steps of Ronald Reagan and Zelensky. Some people seek greatness.Some have it thrust on them.

Meanwhile D Trump will be the next POTUS. Confirming his love affair with Putin.He just confirmed he proposes Putin be allowed to keep all sized "Russian" sorry "Ukrainian" territory. Drat Biden has us all doing it now.Irrespective of weapon cuts and the fact Ukraine is NOT asking for USA troops.

If Ms K Harris runs for POTUS she will easily sweep New York and Washington and some states.She will lose the electoral college .(Due to voters in the South/Rural USA).Giving the future President Mr Trump an even bigger win.
Or ask them if...
Eight - four =1
Six + five =7
Ten + three =?
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Right. Biden is lucid enough to have built a competent and ethical administration. What Trump would create is an extremist cult of loyalists who will not follow laws, norms, or decency as they carry out a terrible agenda. Even if democrats get the House and Senate Trump will use his powers to create an indepence from the law, even to the point where he would create his own protection force. He would declare an emergency and use executive powers illegally.

I don't think many citizens understand who Trump is and the degree of trouble he is in, and what he will do to avoid accountability. He is truly a dangerous man who has way too many loyalists.
Actually, Trump did the opposite and has softened his stance on issues, to pick up more Independents and Democrats. This newer approach will be presented at the RNC Convention.

Trump pushes new GOP platform softening party’s positions on abortion and same-sex marriage

At the urging of former President Donald Trump and his allies, the Republican Party is set to abandon a decades long push for a federal abortion ban and soften its stance on same-sex marriage in its platform, according to changes made in a draft policy platform passed Monday morning ahead of next week’s Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

The new draft party platform, which still must get approval from the full Republican National Committee, came after the Trump campaign made a quiet push to keep those seen as too socially conservative off the platform committee out of concern that they would make a vocal push for things like a federal abortion ban, which has consistently been unpopular in public polling.

“The reality of the situation is, this platform reflects modern day realities,” said a platform committee member who spoke anonymously to NBC News to detail private deliberations. “This is a position that leaves it up to the states, which is the position of the Republican Party.”

I like Trump's idea of sending many important social issues back to the States, since that will weaken centralized power and make the Democracy stronger by having more local options. The DNC wants Big Government. It wants all power centralized, to make it easier for an extremist to use that central core of power, illegally. If the State were to decide more things, the Executive Branch has less ability to force one size first all, when it comes to delicate social issues. Trump is not a power monger. That is the Swamp. They will fight this change since the crooks have to be above the law to escape justice.

Another advantage is, if power on many things goes back to the States, if a Liberal State does do not like a Conservative position, at least the Liberals State would be free to try it their way, and not have the Party in power force feed you. Some States can have School choice ,while other can have only Public schools and Teachers Unions. I would prefer we run more side by side experiments so we can agree on the better ways, based on results and not just propaganda and delusions. One size fits all is the least Democratic way. Everyone doing their own thing may get too chaotic. So, as the story of Goldie Locks and the Three Bears goes; 50 possible ways is the right way back toward Democracy.

State Budgets has much less debt load, than the Federal Budget. If we phase out aspects of the Fed, not in the Constitution, but send it to the State, we can pay down the debt by not having to keep adding to the centralized inefficiency. This is often caused by the Party in power, making a new branch or Agency, and Government not able to fire anyone. When power change more is added and just keeps growing into debt. State can take their preferred half and save the Country money.

As far as these forums rather than take sides and fight about whose one size fits all, we can share war stories about our states to see how each other is approaching the same problems.
 
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